SleepyWhiteSox Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 11:11 PM) There is no excuse for sweetney to not be starting. Even more so than deng imo. Deng gets to shot crazy with a bad selection at times. Sweetney on the other hand always seems to take good shots and is always in good position for the rebound. It pisses me off to see what he goes with. Why dig a hole to start the game off? There's nothing wrong with building a lead instead of draining your players physically and mentally by having to come back from deficits to try to pull out close wins every night. QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 11:11 PM) Bulls starting lineup should be: Duhon Hinrich Deng Sweetney Chandler IMO, that is a good starting lineup. Maybe a toss-up between Sweetney/Songaila. It's so damn obvious. I don't get skiles' logic at all. pike starting??? With Duhon hurt, there's no excuse for not starting Ben too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 (edited) There is no excuse for sweetney to not be starting. Even more so than deng imo. Deng gets to shot crazy with a bad selection at times. Sweetney on the other hand always seems to take good shots and is always in good position for the rebound. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree with you. Sweetney's offense is awesome. I think he could average a double double if he was a starter. I think Skiles may be afraid of him fouling out by halftime if he starts though. Edited November 10, 2005 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Ben is an asset on offense but liability on defense. I am sorry but he is not ready to start just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 10:16 PM) Ben is an asset on offense but liability on defense. I am sorry but he is not ready to start just yet. He looked good defensively the first game... really good. The last three games? The last three games he has looked stupid again... and often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 12:17 AM) He looked good defensively the first game... really good. The last three games? The last three games he has looked stupid again... and often. Exactly. Once he gets consistently effective defensively then he has to be in the lineup. He looks lost on D sometimes. SG's can take him most of the time...and easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 11:16 PM) Ben is an asset on offense but liability on defense. I am sorry but he is not ready to start just yet. With duhon out, he is very ready to start. Ben>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pike I can't stand not scoring in the 1st quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 12:22 AM) With duhon out, he is very ready to start. Ben>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pike I can't stand not scoring in the 1st quarter. Ben is a 4th quarter scorer. I'm willing to say that probably half (or maybe more) of his points have been scored in the 4th quarter...and I dont have a problem with that. Oh, and I was assuming Duhon is healthy with that lineup. Healthy Duhon: CD Captain Kirk Deng Sweets Tyson Unhealthy Duhon: Captain Kirk (guarding SG) Ben (guarding PG) Deng Sweets Tyson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 10:27 PM) Ben is a 4th quarter scorer. I'm willing to say that probably half (or maybe more) of his points have been scored in the 4th quarter...and I dont have a problem with that. Oh, and I was assuming Duhon is healthy with that lineup. Healthy Duhon: CD Captain Kirk Deng Sweets Tyson Unhealthy Duhon: Captain Kirk (guarding SG) Ben (guarding PG) Deng Sweets Tyson I have a problem with gordon just scoring in the fourth. Do you know how bad he was in the first three quarters last year? If he could make some shots consistently earlier on we wouldn't have to rely on his ''clutch'' shots. He was almost always going into the fourth shooting 2-8... 3-11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 11:27 PM) Healthy Duhon: CD Captain Kirk Deng Sweets Tyson Unhealthy Duhon: Captain Kirk (guarding SG) Ben (guarding PG) Deng Sweets Tyson Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 12:33 AM) Agreed. THATS RIGHT b****! But seriously though, I do not want Gordon guardign SG's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 04:17 AM) He looked good defensively the first game... really good. The last three games? The last three games he has looked stupid again... and often. Actually Skiles said the Nets game was Gordon's best overall game... so im guessing he defended pretty well in that game too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 10:58 PM) Actually Skiles said the Nets game was Gordon's best overall game... so im guessing he defended pretty well in that game too. He defense was nothing great.. made alot of bad decisions. Anyway it's most likely because he shot well early on... six rebounds... four assists... and only one turnover in 31 minutes. The worst game for him defensively was the spurs game though. There isn't a player on that team he can defend...and do it well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Sweets will NEVER start with the way he plays defense, but man he's BY FAR our best offensive threat in the post, so he needs to play and get the ball more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 11:47 PM) Sweets will NEVER start with the way he plays defense, but man he's BY FAR our best offensive threat in the post, so he needs to play and get the ball more. If eddy curry started i don't see why sweetney can't/won't. Edited November 10, 2005 by qwerty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 9, 2005 -> 11:49 PM) If eddy curry started i don't see why sweetney can't/won't. I hope your right, but I think the fact that Eddy is 7 feet tall helped him out whereas Sweets is only 6'8. But I hope your right, I'd love to see Sweetney get a shot at starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Well I just hope its a matter of time where both Sweetney and Deng will be starting ahead of Nocioni and Songalia.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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