Steff Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Deserving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Closest vote since 1998. Willis finishes a close second. Player, Club 1st 2nd 3rd Points Chris Carpenter, Cardinals 19 12 1 132 Dontrelle Willis, Marlins 11 18 3 112 Roger Clemens, Astros 2 2 24 40 Roy Oswalt, Astros 2 2 Chad Cordero, Nationals 1 1 Andy Pettitte, Astros 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I thought for sure Willis would win, seeing as he had a better ERA, more wins, and Carpenter's September was pretty miserable. But alas, Carpenter overall still had quite a year, so congrats to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 04:52 PM) I thought for sure Willis would win, seeing as he had a better ERA, more wins, and Carpenter's September was pretty miserable. But alas, Carpenter overall still had quite a year, so congrats to him. Willis had more losses also. Carpenter sure has made one hell of a come back.. that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 04:55 PM) Willis had more losses also. Carpenter sure has made one hell of a come back.. that's for sure. Definitely.....that was a gamble by Jocketty that paid off big time. Had Carpenter not got hurt, I think the '04 WS could have gone differently, and at the least, would not have been a sweep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Carpenter is good and all, but Clemens should have gotten the award. Much better pitcher last year IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 It was a very tough race. I had forgotten all about Chad Cordero. His 47 saves led the majors. Willis had a phenomenal season and The Rocket probably had the best season of his career. But overall, IMO, Carpenter does deserve the CY. He had only 5 loses throughout the whole season. He was healthy and when he was on he was almost unhittable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 05:09 PM) Carpenter is good and all, but Clemens should have gotten the award. Much better pitcher last year IMO Pettitte was better as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Couldn't go wrong with either Carpenter, Willis, or Clemens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Osuna Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Meh, looks to me like Willis is being penalized for being on a team that was weaker this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 QUOTE(Antonio Osuna @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 06:27 PM) Meh, looks to me like Willis is being penalized for being on a team that was weaker this year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Or maybe because Carpenter was a better pitcher. He pitched more innings than Willies yet gave up less hits, lees walks, and 43 more K's. A 21-5 record looks better than a 22-10 record in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I thought Willis deserved it more but all is well.... and do you think part of Carpenter only having 5 losses is his team scored about 100 more runs than the Marlins... I guess you can say samething for Clemens but Willis has the wins to back up his performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 07:23 PM) Or maybe because Carpenter was a better pitcher. He pitched more innings than Willies yet gave up less hits, lees walks, and 43 more K's. A 21-5 record looks better than a 22-10 record in my opinion. Agreed completely This is not mentioning how unbelievably unhittable Carpenter was from June through August. His totals during that time - 12-1 1.45 ERA 0.80 WHIP 5.75 K/BB in 130.1 IP - are hard to fathom. Reminds me a little of Santana last year, except Santana was just unbelievable last year...almost unhittable. He had WHIPs of under 0.70 in a month twice last year, and had a BAA of under .100 in July, while having an ERA of 0.45 in September. Not surprising is that those were the two months his WHIP was under 0.70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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