NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/14/amber.alert.ap/index.html I hate people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steff Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Doesn't look like she was kidnapped... possibly participated in crime. Pa. Teen Missing After Parents Slain MARTHA RAFFAELE, Associated Press Writer 18 minutes ago LITITZ, Pa. - Police searched across the East on Monday for an 18-year-old man and his girlfriend, whose parents were found shot to death in their home. Police said David G. Ludwig killed 14-year-old Kara Beth Borden's parents after they and their daughter argued about her curfew. The girl was last seen Sunday morning at the family's home in Warwick Township, about 60 miles west of Philadelphia. "We don't know whether she has been abducted or is willingly a part of this," said Police Chief William Seace. Until they can determine otherwise, police are operating on the assumption that she has been kidnapped. Borden's parents, Michael and Cathryn, both 50, were found shot to death shortly after 8 a.m. Sunday, after the couple's 9-year-old son ran to the home of neighbors for help. An older daughter also escaped. Police late Sunday issued an arrest warrant for Ludwig on two counts of criminal homicide, one count of reckless endangerment and one count of kidnapping. He was last seen driving his parents' red Volkswagen Jetta with Pennsylvania license plates EHH-0994. Seace said authorities do not know which direction Ludwig was heading and the search area for him and Kara was "anywhere in the state of Pennsylvania or along the eastern seaboard." The Amber alert for the two was expanded beyond Pennsylvania, he said Monday. "We think they're boyfriend and girlfriend," said Seace. "The young girl was out during the night, came home, and her parents confronted her. From what we understand, he came to the house." It was the second violent incident in a week in normally quiet Lititz, a Lancaster County village known for quaint shops, local artists and Sturgis Pretzel House, which bills itself as America's first pretzel bakery. On Tuesday, police shot and killed 23-year-old Daniel B. Faust hours after he allegedly shot one of three officers who had gone to his home with a traffic warrant. The officer, Jevon M. Miller, was critically wounded. The Borden family had lived in their home for several years, said neighbor Tod Sherman, 47. Mike Borden worked for a printing company, and the children were home-schooled, he said. Sherman said the family knew the 18-year-old suspect through a home-schooling network. He said he had occasionally seen the teen at the Bordens' home. Stephanie Mannon, 16, said Ludwig and Kara Borden had been seeing each other secretly. "Their parents didn't approve of them being together" because of the age difference, she said. "It wasn't because he was a shady character, because he wasn't." Both Ludwig and Kara Borden maintain Web sites. Hers refers to interests in soccer, art and her Christian faith; his says he enjoys "having soft air gun wars" and claims expertise in "getting in trouble." Neighbor John Hohman, 40, said his family got a phone call from Lancaster County emergency management officials Sunday morning warning them to stay inside. He said he looked out a window and saw police running through the neighborhood. About an hour and a half later, authorities told residents to go to their basements. "We were really upset. We didn't know what was going on," Hohman said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 tens of millions of teens follow their parents rules, come home on time, don't date at 14 guys who are 18, yet they never make the news. :headshake How about the damn newspapers printing those stories once in a while, instead of this crap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 14, 2005 -> 10:19 AM) tens of millions of teens follow their parents rules, come home on time, don't date at 14 guys who are 18, yet they never make the news. :headshake How about the damn newspapers printing those stories once in a while, instead of this crap? They do. They are just on the backpage. Acheivers awards are rarely front page news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Nov 14, 2005 -> 09:22 AM) They do. They are just on the backpage. Acheivers awards are rarely front page news. Hmm.. so don't put it out there that 2 teenagers have just murdered 2 innocent people in an effort to possibly catch them before they might kill again and prosecute them for the crime they have already committed..? Alrighty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 to be fair, shouldn't we blame the parents for arguing with their daughter and letting her date a guy 4 years older? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 14, 2005 -> 09:25 AM) Hmm.. so don't put it out there that 2 teenagers have just murdered 2 innocent people in an effort to possibly catch them before they might kill again and prosecute them for the crime they have already committed..? Alrighty... But we have so many of these threads, and rarely a fun one, with kids that are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 14, 2005 -> 10:25 AM) Hmm.. so don't put it out there that 2 teenagers have just murdered 2 innocent people in an effort to possibly catch them before they might kill again and prosecute them for the crime they have already committed..? Alrighty... I didnt say I disagreed with murderers being front page news. I just pointed out that the good kids actually do get some print time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Nov 14, 2005 -> 09:34 AM) I didnt say I disagreed with murderers being front page news. I just pointed out that the good kids actually do get some print time. I wasn't accusing you of doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 14, 2005 -> 09:38 AM) I wasn't accusing you of doing so. Steff's accusations are generally much broader and ambiguous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Nov 14, 2005 -> 09:39 AM) Steff's accusations are generally much broader and ambiguous... Get your ass to work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 14, 2005 -> 10:38 AM) I wasn't accusing you of doing so. Hmm.. so don't put it out there that 2 teenagers have just murdered 2 innocent people in an effort to possibly catch them before they might kill again and prosecute them for the crime they have already committed..? Alrighty... Ok, what were you saying then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/13/...in1041458.shtml It's all a prodcut of our society. Good news don't generate interest and so they don't sell. This one is about two young, good looking, white church going kids from a safe community. How soon until the talk show and book deals get going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Nov 14, 2005 -> 09:44 AM) Ok, what were you saying then? I wasn't accusing you... pretty clear, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 It's shocking news. That's why it's front page. People expect good & are shocked by bad. I'm actually grateful for that. I hope it never reverses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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