Levine says there's a lot of interest in Marte

[SSH2005]

Bruce Levine of ESPN 1000 said that there's a lot of interest in Marte from many teams. Of course, Levine is often wrong. If it's true, it's good news for us on the trade front.

[Rowand44]

Bruce Levine of ESPN 1000 said that there's a lot of interest in Marte from many teams.  Of course, Levine is often wrong.    If it's true, it's good news for us on the trade front.

Marte for Delgado, take it or leave it, Florida.

[maggsmaggs]

Hopefully Marte can go to Florida in some sort of Delgado deal.

[Felix]

Marte for Delgado, take it or leave it, Florida.

Sounds good, lets do it.

[SnB]

Marte really pushed up his value in Game 3. There would be alot of interest before that game, let alone after. Marte could be a key piece in a bigger deal...

i'm really believing there is no doubt that is going to happen. KW is going to get one of our bigger pieces this offseason via trade and I really have no idea marte will be in on that package, especially since his value is pretty decent.

[DBAHO]

So many teams are desperate for bullpen help e.g Arizona, Florida, Colorado etc.

 

We should be able to get a good deal out of this, if that's the course of action KW takes.

[Chisoxfn]

Unless Marte can be moved in a deal to help land the Sox a DH, I would not trade him. He's signed to an affordable deal and still has an awesome arm. I think he'll be just fine next year and has worked through his issues this year.

 

Sometimes the best option is in-house and in this situation Marte is still every bit as capable of being the best left handed reliever out there. Therefor, unless he has value and can help (in a package with others) land the club a big time bat I wouldn't make a move with him.

 

Especially since the only other replacement via FA is going to cost 4-5 million a year (and that money could be better spent). Scott Eyre is not better than Damaso Marte, yet he'd get possibly twice as much money.

[Gene Honda Civic]

Marte for Delgado, take it or leave it, Florida.

Maybe if they throw in Beckett or Dontrelle.

Edited November 16, 2005 by Gene Honda Civic

[spiderman]

I know Levine keeps saying the White Sox are going hard after Delgado, regardless of what happens with Konerko, but wouldn't the White Sox, to make this work financially, have to give up more than just Marte ? I'm thinking it would have to be either Garland or Contreras (probably Contreras because he's got 1 year left on his deal, which would give Florida flexibility) and Marte just to get the salaries closer, and even then, the White Sox may ask the Marlins to pay a percentage of this.

 

Where am I wrong ?

[spiderman]

Also want to add, that I'm hesitant to trade Marte unless we can get Erye or some other lefty to replace Marte - not suggesting that Marte is great, but a lefty in the bullpen is big, and I think we need someone to complement Neil Cotts.

[fathom]

I know Levine keeps saying the White Sox are going hard after Delgado, regardless of what happens with Konerko, but wouldn't the White Sox, to make this work financially, have to give up more than just Marte ? I'm thinking it would have to be either Garland or Contreras (probably Contreras because he's got 1 year left on his deal, which would give Florida flexibility) and Marte just to get the salaries closer, and even then, the White Sox may ask the Marlins to pay a percentage of this.

 

Where am I wrong ?

 

Even though a lot of people here don't think it's a possibility, I personally think the only way we trade for Delgado is if Contreras is in the deal.

[Gene Honda Civic]

Where am I wrong ?

In 2006, you're wrong because Count/Garland plus Marte have a combined salary very close to Delgado's '06 salary.

 

Other than that, your thought was right. (even though Rowand was just kidding)

 

1) they'll want pitching. They always want pitching. Young, cheap pitching. 2) They'll also probably be looking to dump Lowell. 3) They'll then look to fill their outfield with cheap talent, with Cabrera moving to 3B.

[Chisoxfn]

I know Levine keeps saying the White Sox are going hard after Delgado, regardless of what happens with Konerko, but wouldn't the White Sox, to make this work financially, have to give up more than just Marte ? I'm thinking it would have to be either Garland or Contreras (probably Contreras because he's got 1 year left on his deal, which would give Florida flexibility) and Marte just to get the salaries closer, and even then, the White Sox may ask the Marlins to pay a percentage of this.

 

Where am I wrong ?

Duque, Marte and some damn good prospects would do the trick.

[fathom]

Duque, Marte and some damn good prospects would do the trick.

 

Why would the Marlins take a 5 million dollar extremely injury-prone starting pitcher when they're trying to save money? If KW pulled that trade off, it would be better than anything he did last season.

[ZoomSlowik]

Why would the Marlins take a 5 million dollar extremely injury-prone starting pitcher when they're trying to save money?  If KW pulled that trade off, it would be better than anything he did last season.

 

You're still cutting about $6 mil (somewhere around there, too lazy to look up the number right now) for next season, and since he is on a one year deal there is a much lower long term financial committment.

[SSH2005]

I know Levine keeps saying the White Sox are going hard after Delgado, regardless of what happens with Konerko, but wouldn't the White Sox, to make this work financially, have to give up more than just Marte ? I'm thinking it would have to be either Garland or Contreras (probably Contreras because he's got 1 year left on his deal, which would give Florida flexibility) and Marte just to get the salaries closer, and even then, the White Sox may ask the Marlins to pay a percentage of this.

 

Where am I wrong ?

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I agree with you. I think the Sox are probably only interested in dealing Rowand, El Duque, and Marte though. Rowand can be replaced by Brian Anderson, El Duque will be replaced by McCarthy, and Marte could be replaced by a guy like Scott Eyre or Mike Myers. No one else on our team has a viable replacement. Rowand, El Duque, and Marte will earn a combined $10 million next season. Rowand and Marte probably have good trade value but El Duque probably doesn't have much because of his age, injury issues, and $4.5 million contract. We would most likely have to pick up some of El Duque's contract to deal him. Rowand, El Duque, and Marte are the guys I look for the Sox to deal in any possible trades.

 

Why would the Marlins take a 5 million dollar extremely injury-prone starting pitcher when they're trying to save money?  If KW pulled that trade off, it would be better than anything he did last season.

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Delgado would probably cost Rowand, Marte, El Duque, a decent pitching prospect, and some money to pay for El Duque's contract.

[santo=dorf]

 

Or are we not "under the radar" this year?

Edited November 16, 2005 by santo=dorf

[YASNY]

I agree with you.  I think the Sox are probably only interested in dealing Rowand, El Duque, and Marte though.  Rowand can be replaced by Brian Anderson, El Duque will be replaced by McCarthy, and Marte could be replaced by a guy like Scott Eyre or Mike Myers.  No one else on our team has a viable replacement.  Rowand, El Duque, and Marte will earn a combined $10 million next season.  Rowand and Marte probably have good trade value but El Duque probably doesn't have much because of his age, injury issues, and $4.5 million contract.  We would most likely have to pick up some of El Duque's contract to deal him.  Rowand, El Duque, and Marte are the guys I look for the Sox to deal in any possible trades.

Delgado would probably cost Rowand, Marte, El Duque, a decent pitching prospect, and some money to pay for El Duque's contract.

 

With Delgado's back end laden contract, no way will it cost that much tgo get him. Florida will want to get out of that deal if they can.

[SnB]

marte is expendable IMHO

I don't think a "hot and cold" lefty specialist out of the BP is worth keeping if he can be a big part in a deal that would land us a replacement for konerko or the like, especially with a guy like cotts still in our bullpen.

Edited November 16, 2005 by SnB

[RockRaines]

With Delgado's back end laden contract, no way will it cost that much tgo get him.  Florida will want to get out of that deal if they can.

If we are so hell bent on getting Delgado, did anyone calculate the salary rammifications. Im almost certain that becuase of his salary the next few years, this would make it very difficult to resign paulie.

[AddisonStSox]

 

Or are we not "under the radar" this year? 

 

Oh, we're under the radar alright.

 

A deal centered around Marte for Mench.

 

Make it happen.

[Antonio Osuna]

If we are so hell bent on getting Delgado, did anyone calculate the salary rammifications.  Im almost certain that becuase of his salary the next few years, this would make it very difficult to resign paulie.

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Yes, traditionally a team will have only one highly-paid first baseman.

[southsideirish]

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 03:22 PM)

If we are so hell bent on getting Delgado, did anyone calculate the salary rammifications.  Im almost certain that becuase of his salary the next few years, this would make it very difficult to resign paulie.

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That is not a great assessment. Carlos Delgado signed a 4 year 52 million dollar deal last year. 13 million a year.

 

Carl Everett made 4 million last year. Frank Thomas made 8 million last year. That is 12 million dollars last year for the DH spot. 1 million more for a left handed power hitter? Plus the Marlins may pick something up.

 

I am sure that they will still be able to resign Paulie while also getting Delgado. I know we still have to sign AJ, Garland, and Crede, but the payroll will be increased so that we can afford them plus Paulie.

[RockRaines]

Yes, traditionally a team will have only one highly-paid first baseman.

Especially since Delgado signed a HEAVILY backloaded contract, I would any delgado deal to be a backup plan to not signing paulie. Im not sure we can afford both with Paulie making 13 mil or so and Delgado making more. If they would like to open the pocketbook, all the better.

[KevHead0881]

That is not a great assessment. Carlos Delgado signed a 4 year 52 million dollar deal last year. 13 million a year.

 

Actually, his contract is very backloaded...he's set to make $16 million in '08 and another $16 million in '09 (with a $4 million buyout). I like the idea of getting Delgado, but my concern is that we'd be paying him $16 million a year when he's 36 and 37 yrs old. Hopefully he's putting up the same numbers by then, but who knows.