Heads22 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051116/ap_on_..._kansas_jackson LAWRENCE, Kan. - Kansas forward Darnell Jackson has been suspended for the Jayhawks' first nine games for receiving about $5,000 in benefits from a booster. ADVERTISEMENT The university said Tuesday night that it reported the matter to the NCAA in June after receiving an anonymous tip. It said the NCAA agreed to restore Jackson's eligibility after he sits out the suspension. The university said benefits to Jackson and his family included transportation, meals and lodging, gifts and a personal loan between 2002 and this year. Jackson will be required to repay the full value of the benefits. He'll be eligible to play when the Jayhawks meet Northern Colorado on Dec. 22. Jackson, a 6-foot-8 sophomore, averaged two points last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 (edited) Kansas ran a dirty program even under Roy Williams, so this isn't surprising at all...if a program is dirty with Roy, it will be with anybody. However I'm not going to blame Self.....at that program, there is cheating going on that the coach doesn't even know about and probably could do little to prevent. Kansas is just lucky they are Kansas, or they'd have big issues. Edited November 16, 2005 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 04:36 PM) Kansas ran a dirty program even under Roy Williams, so this isn't surprising at all...if a program is dirty with Roy, it will be with anybody. However I'm not going to blame Self.....at that program, there is cheating going on that the coach doesn't even know about and probably could do little to prevent. Kansas is just lucky they are Kansas, or they'd have big issues. yeah, you can't blame self. this sounds similar to what happened with marcus mason and illinois football. a rogue booster decides to go and hand-out some cash on his own. not much a head coach can do about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 QUOTE(thedoctor @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 10:47 AM) yeah, you can't blame self. this sounds similar to what happened with marcus mason and illinois football. a rogue booster decides to go and hand-out some cash on his own. not much a head coach can do about that. The only difference I can see between the Mason situation and Jackson is that Mason was listed as a major infranction against the University of Illinois. KU is not penalized at all for this. (Not saying they should have as the university had no knowledge of this, just some inconsistency in punishmet). I guess the NCAA has always had their favorite schools and Illinois has never been at the top of that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 QUOTE(illinilaw08 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 04:57 PM) The only difference I can see between the Mason situation and Jackson is that Mason was listed as a major infranction against the University of Illinois. KU is not penalized at all for this. (Not saying they should have as the university had no knowledge of this, just some inconsistency in punishmet). I guess the NCAA has always had their favorite schools and Illinois has never been at the top of that list. that's true. the combination of this and the stuff that happened right after self got there ought to at least require a bit further review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 QUOTE(thedoctor @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 11:06 AM) that's true. the combination of this and the stuff that happened right after self got there ought to at least require a bit further review. No doubt. I can't believe how quickly this resolved itself. KU is a big money program and the NCAA just further exposes its hypocrisy in dealing with different schools. I would love to be at the Illinois appeal of the Mason decision when the two situations are compared and the NCAA describes why the discrepancy in punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 This was very similiar to the 89 suspension for the Jayhawks. THe booster paid for the player to see his grandmother's funeral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 No offense, but how did Roy run a dirty program? I assume this was what you are referring to. http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/396061.html This was graduation gifts given by 3 individuals given to a few players that had already graduated and KU's compliance department gave him the ok for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 There have been 3 bumps on the Jayhawk program, all occured during the Roy Williams era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 12:45 PM) No offense, but how did Roy run a dirty program? I assume this was what you are referring to. http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/396061.html This was graduation gifts given by 3 individuals given to a few players that had already graduated and KU's compliance department gave him the ok for. I don't think Roy ran it, which is why I think Kansas basketball is out of control. The coaches don't run the program (other than who is recruited and coaching), the cheating and lying boosters do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 I know KU had a huge booster who kept getting caught trying to give money to players. He was basically told you are not allowed anywhere near our program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 QUOTE(Jimbo's Drinker @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 07:23 PM) I know KU had a huge booster who kept getting caught trying to give money to players. He was basically told you are not allowed anywhere near our program. i think this is a part of the culture for really high profile college athletic programs. people want so bad to be a part of the "show" that they are willing to do just about anything to feel like they are in the program. for the average guy, that's just a pipe dream. for a guy with a big bankroll it's really not. the problem is, these people are like roaches. you snuff one out and two more spring up. if i were a college coach at a major program i think i'd spend a lot more time worrying about what the adults were doing than what the kids were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 the problem is, these people are like roaches. you snuff one out and two more spring up. if i were a college coach at a major program i think i'd spend a lot more time worrying about what the adults were doing than what the kids were. Thats a good point, even "superfans" without alot of money can ruin a program, guys are springing up over the internet with superfan sites and calling their scrhools recruits bothering them all the time and asking ridiculous questions, ruining their schools chances. It gets ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:40 PM) Thats a good point, even "superfans" without alot of money can ruin a program, guys are springing up over the internet with superfan sites and calling their scrhools recruits bothering them all the time and asking ridiculous questions, ruining their schools chances. It gets ridiculous. true. the internet has created a direct line between recruits and fans in some instances, and i'm not certain that's really a good thing. on one board i post on a football recruit has posted regularly. even after he committed, he decided to take other visits (as i would do as well if i were in his shoes, a free trip to a tennessee football game, c'mon!). anyhow, the reaction from fans has ranged from simple anxiety to anger, all while the kid is still showing up and almost feeling as if he has to reassure fans. it's bizarre. there was a good story on this a few months back in espnmagazine that centered around myron rolle. very good story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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