redandwhite Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 a "reliable source" according to the New York Mets Inside Pitch seems to believe that Mike Cameorn has been traded to the Padres. For whom, we do not know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 (edited) That would free up a decent amount of money for the Mets ($8 mil this year plus buyout next), if the rumors are actually true of course. It would be interesting to see what they are getting. Edited November 16, 2005 by ZoomSlowik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Good trade for Padres and Cameron, should this be true. the padres have been looking for an OF that can cover all of that ground in that park, and Cameron is definitely that type of player. Cameron didnt need to be playing in RF at Shea, he is a true CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 I have no idea about their OF situation, but could this mean that Giles isn't going back to SD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Traded to the scene of his horrific collision in right-center field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 On the Padres' board, even though it's just the MLB board, they have a rumor that it's Nady for Cameron. Sounds like the Mets would be getting the best of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 11:43 AM) On the Padres' board, even though it's just the MLB board, they have a rumor that it's Nady for Cameron. Sounds like the Mets would be getting the best of this one. I think you're underestimating what a healthy Cameron can provide to a team with a big CF. USSMariner noted that Mets pitchers gave up something like 25% fewer Xtra base hits at Shea in the first two years of Cameron compared to the previous years without cameron. They also showed a 10-15% increase in Xtra base hits allowed by Seattle pitching in Cameron's absense. That's substacial. Now weather Cameron is healthy or not is a big question, but otherwise, that's a great fit for SD. I noted in my blog back in May(whenever it was that we played them) that they looked like the best team we had played until that point, and their lone deficiency seemed to be OF defense in that large stadium. Obviously they went on to show a whole lot more holes, but the OF defense was always at the forefront. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Makes sense for both sides. Diaz moves into RF for the Metros while they can play Nady at first if they are so inclined wiht his good bat. Dave Roberts a FA or will he go to LF/bench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 (edited) Wow. Nady is >>>>>Cameron. Cheaper too. I hope that the Pads got something else besides just Cameron for him. Edited November 16, 2005 by knightni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 This should put an end to the Klesko-Finley talks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 (edited) Maybe the Mets got Otsuka. Edited November 16, 2005 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 06:39 PM) Wow. Nady is >>>>>Cameron. Tell me, exactly, how Cameron is worse than Nady? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 12:39 PM) Wow. Nady is >>>>>Cameron. Cheaper too. I hope that the Pads got something else besides just Cameron for him. I'll give you cheaper, but why is he even > than Cameron, let alone multiple >>>? Nady's entering his age 27 season. He hasn't accomplished s*** at the major league level. '05 was the first season when he was above leage average in OPS+, and that's harldy something to brag about from a 1B. -- Nady is living off of his prospect status and the inflated numbers he put up in the hitter friendly PCL. Meanwhile other real first baseman (like fellow 27 yo Nick Johson) were putting up solid numbers in the MLB. Cameron meanwhile is one of the best defensive CFers in the game, (CF being the position where the most runs stand to be gained/lost on the defensive side of the ball) has power, speed, and a better batting eye than Nady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Otsuka is rumored to be a trade candidate for the Padres to get David Wells back. Also, look for Dave Roberts to go back to Boston as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 12:39 PM) Wow. Nady is >>>>>Cameron. Cheaper too. I hope that the Pads got something else besides just Cameron for him. For the price you are right. But if we are talking same salaries, it's more like Cameron >> Nady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 As much as they like Linebrink I don't see them trading Otsuka if they let Hoffman walk which seems probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hmph...I find this most interesting in that Cameron's name has come up as one of the names in any possible Ramirez to the Mets deal...with Boston considering using him as mainly a defensive replacement for Damon in CF if Damon were to leave. In fact, the rumor over the summer was that Cameron was involved in the previous Manny to teh Mets talk. If this is going down, then that makes me think the Mets may well be out of the Manny sweepstakes. Oh, and given how big the S.D. outfield is, this makes a ton of sense from their perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:56 AM) As of a few weeks ago, the Pads we very concered in finding a CF that was great with the glove. Looks like they got him. Like Milkman just said however, Nady does seem like a pretty prized player to give up, but we shall see. Nady is a good player with potential, but he's yet to play everyday and a healthy Mike Cameron is one of the better offensive outfielders in the game. My guess is you'll soon see Ryan Klesko on his way out. In fact, Klesko may not be a bad backup plan if the Sox can't find any other DH's (he'll come cheap in terms of players given up and the Pads would probably eat a bit of his contract). As far as I'm concerned, if Mike Cameron is healthy this is an outstanding trade by the Pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I realize that Klesko is a low risk/high reward guy, provided of course that San Diego pays his entire salary which they'll do unless they take back another bad contract. That said, I just don't know if he has much left, plus he's not been an AL guy which will provide a tough adjustment anyways. There are worse DH options out there but I tend to think of him more as a Plan D guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I think the Sox could pretty much trade Duque and a mid level guy for Klesko at this point so it wouldn't be a bad plan D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 05:50 PM) I think the Sox could pretty much trade Duque and a mid level guy for Klesko at this point so it wouldn't be a bad plan D. I think I'd rather have the middle reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Thats a definate angle the Sox could work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Doesn't Klesko have a full no trade clause? Oh and I like this trade for the Pads as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Nady will make SD rue the day that they traded him. Mark my words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 11:17 PM) Nady will make SD rue the day that they traded him. Mark my words. Meh..I personally don't think Nady becomes much but we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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