Rowand44 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 11:40 PM) Im sorry but Aaron is no where close to Cameron, Adruw Jones is much better than hima nd Ill take Wells 13 assists and no errors above Aaron. Name 6 better defensive cf's then Aaron? And Cameron and Rowand are very similar in the OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 (edited) http://www.palmbeachpost.com/marlins/conte...rlins_1120.html Sources: Marlins close to fire sale But sources said Florida's front office has been telling teams that, except for pitcher Dontrelle Willis and third baseman Miguel Cabrera, everyone is available because of orders to cut payroll from the club-record $65 million spent on last season's team. The Chicago Cubs and White Sox are interested in center fielder Juan Pierre. Edited November 20, 2005 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 11:50 PM) Name 6 better defensive cf's then Aaron? And Cameron and Rowand are very similar in the OF. Cameron has 3 gold gloves Aaron has 0 , the comparison ends there. Hunter, Cameron, Wells, Damon, A. Jones, Sizemore , Logan even Rookie W. Taverz had 10 assist to Rowands 3? Not exactlly in that order , thats for defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 12:01 AM) Cameron has 3 gold gloves Aaron has 0 , the comparison ends there. Hunter, Cameron, Wells, Damon, A. Jones, Sizemore , Logan even Rookie W. Taverz had 10 assist to Rowands 3? Not exactlly in that order , thats for defense. WOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 07:34 PM) YES! Grounders to 2B win Championships. Remember when Pods hit that game winner right at Biggio? Oh and that routine 3-hopper that Blum tapped to Everett. I'll cherish those memories forever. might wanna cherish the one in game 4 when Sox lead off with double, and Aaron bunts on his own straight to the dug out, with nobody out. Ozie seemed very pleased after that brutal AB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Cameron has 3 gold gloves Aaron has 0 , the comparison ends there. Hunter, Cameron, Wells, Damon, A. Jones, Sizemore , Logan even Rookie W. Taverz had 10 assist to Rowands 3? Not exactlly in that order , thats for defense. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> David Wells? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 01:01 AM) Cameron has 3 gold gloves Aaron has 0 , the comparison ends there. Hunter, Cameron, Wells, Damon, A. Jones, Sizemore , Logan even Rookie W. Taverz had 10 assist to Rowands 3? Not exactlly in that order , thats for defense. Please stop comparing outfielders defensive abilities by stating the amount of assists they have. Manny Ramierez had the most outfield assists in the MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 12:05 AM) Please stop comparing outfielders defensive abilities by stating the amount of assists they have. Manny Ramierez had the most outfield assists in the MLB. ^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(3E8 @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 12:05 AM) Please stop comparing outfielders defensive abilities by stating the amount of assists they have. Manny Ramierez had the most outfield assists in the MLB. Good point, then Pierre is better than Rowand is what your saying? Edited November 20, 2005 by Soxpranos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 01:06 AM) Good point, then Pierre is better than Rowand is what your saying? Rowand is better defensively than Pierre and everyone knows this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 12:06 AM) Good point, then Pierre is better than Rowand is what your saying? Im sure our Scouts , G.M. and manager know what there doing, shopping Roberto Clemente II here fellas. I trust there judgement better than the Aaron Rowands fan club. If he is so good, why even bring him up as trade. reality check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 01:10 AM) Im sure our Scouts , G.M. and manager know what there doing, shopping Roberto Clemente II here fellas. I trust there judgement better than the Aaron Rowands fan club. If he is so good, why even bring him up as trade. reality check. Carlos Lee was pretty good, and we traded him. Trading Rowand could allow us to address other needs of our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Im sure our Scouts , G.M. and manager know what there doing, shopping Roberto Clemente II here fellas. I trust there judgement better than the Aaron Rowands fan club. If he is so good, why even bring him up as trade. reality check. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Im sure he was part of the Delgado/JP trade.. I honestly don't think we are stupid to give up Rowand for JP.. Rowand has a ton of upswing, JP is on the downside of his Career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 12:01 AM) Cameron has 3 gold gloves Aaron has 0 , the comparison ends there. Hunter, Cameron, Wells, Damon, A. Jones, Sizemore , Logan even Rookie W. Taverz had 10 assist to Rowands 3? Not exactlly in that order , thats for defense. LOL at the gold glove comments. Logan, Taveras, and Damon aren't even close to Aaron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 12:15 AM) LOL at the gold glove comments. Logan, Taveras, and Damon aren't even close to Aaron. Start thinking of changing your name to Pierre 44, thats funny. You can use Brian Anderson also, just a thought. Edited November 20, 2005 by Soxpranos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 12:18 AM) Start thinking of changing your name to Pierre 44, thats funny. You can use Brian Anderson also, just a thought. I'm not attatched at all to Aaron, I've been advocating trading AR if necessary to bring in a big bat. However, thinking he's not a great defender is ridiculous. Edited November 20, 2005 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Im sure he was part of the Delgado/JP trade.. I honestly don't think we are stupid to give up Rowand for JP.. Rowand has a ton of upswing, JP is on the downside of his Career. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Aaron Rowand's birthdate: August 29, 1977 Juan Pierre's birthdate: August 14, 1977 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 12:20 AM) I'm really not attatched at all to Aaron, I've been advocating trading AR if necessary to bring in a big bat. However, thinking he's not a great defender is ridiculous. He's the greatest, Clemente is turning in his grave. Clemente is great, Aaron is nowhere near great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 12:21 AM) Aaron Rowand's birthdate: August 29, 1977 Juan Pierre's birthdate: August 14, 1977 No but he's great . :puke :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 (edited) No but he's great . :puke :puke <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think Rowand is a better defender than Pierre too. But to say that Pierre is on the downside of his career and Rowand is on the upswing of his is downright ludicrous. Pierre is 15 days older than Rowand. Edited November 20, 2005 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 12:25 AM) I think Rowand is a better defender than Pierre too. But to say that Pierre is on the downside of his career and Rowand is on the upswing of his is downright ludicrous. Pierre is 15 days older than Rowand. K, defender? What about all around CF, who is better? They do bat and do fundementals in baseball as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 K, defender? What about all around CF, who is better? They do bat and do fundementals in baseball as well. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I like Rowand's defense and Pierre's offense. I'd rather have Pierre than Rowand as long as we have high OPS guys at first base and DH because I really like the idea of a 1-2 of Pods and Pierre. But I don't like that Pierre will be making quite a bit more money than Rowand will be next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Pierre is better than rowand. The debate ends here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Pierre is better than rowand. The debate ends here. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You mean as an all-around player, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 12:33 AM) You mean as an all-around player, right? I lied... just hoping soxpranos would eventually stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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