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I don't consider Aaron Rowand to be a great player, but he does play defense quite well, and isn't making an unreasonable amount of money. He is a solid hitter in the .280 range, and has the flexibility to hit all over a lineup depending on where he is needed.

 

So, why does he seem to be rumored in every deal ?

 

Didn't the White Sox win the World Series, in large part, to the great pitching and defense ?

 

Yeah, I know Brian Anderson needs to play, but why can't they just rotate Anderson around the outfield, and DH - that would be a cheaper alternative, and allow the White Sox to keep their pitching intact as well for next season.

 

If Anderson is 1/2 as good as projected, and Konerko is resigned, we won't have a dynamite offense, but it should be enough with the pitching.

 

I say keep Rowand, Pods, and Dye in the OF, have Anderson as the 4th OF and part-time DH, and find one more bat as insurance in case Anderson struggles (maybe Frank Thomas)....

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QUOTE(spiderman @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 12:23 AM)
but he does play defense quite well, and isn't making an unreasonable amount of money. He is a solid hitter in the .280 range, and has the flexibility to hit all over a lineup depending on where he is needed.

 

 

You answered your own question with the segment quoted above. For those reasons, Rowand is drawing interest from other clubs. The Sox abundance of minor league outfielders with talent also adds to the equation. If the Sox do make any trades, odds are that Rowand and/or Marte will be involved.

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Given our quality outfield prospects, there is no reason any one of our current three outfielders should be signed to a long term deal. It'd be bad business. I think using Rowand to get a 1B/DH bat or another reliever is a good idea because I think that Anderson shouldn't sit on the bench and has proved all he needs to at the minor league level in my opinion

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QUOTE(Wealz @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 07:10 PM)
I think they should be very cautious about dealing Rowand.  Cheap CF'ers who play the position defensively as well as he does, and provide some power, are real hard to find.

 

Exactly. That's why we will probably get a very good return on him. Rowand is one of the top centerfielders available, and a team like the Yankees may over pay for him. With Anderson ready now, and Young most likely ready next year (if not earlier), we can afford to trade Rowand.

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I would do Rowand for Sheffield were it not for the issue of Sheffield demanding an extension if he is traded. I believe he is a FA after this year because I think he signed a three year deal and has been a Yank for two years. I don't believe option years were involved although deferred money was. Sheffield in this park in a contract year could be phenomenal but you'd need to feel him out to make sure he isn't goign to be a prick when he comes here.

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I'd have to agree with most that has been said in here so far, but I look at this is another way too. The Sox have had plenty of offers and situations where Row could have been dealt in the past, despite being a bench player on this team for years....faith was never lost, and the Sox refused to let him go in a deal. I am one to believe that 2004 was NOT a career year from Aaron and he will put numbers up like that again. I don't see the logic in shopping him around when his value is much lower than it ever has been. Ive said it once and I'll say it again, there is nobody else I would want roaming CF in the American League other than Row (including that azz clown Hunter). He may not be a cluctch hitter, but he is the kind of grinder player that defines this team, just because we won, the philosphy should not be changed to prepare for the future. Anderson deserves to play and will, imo not at the expense of Row. It was mere months ago when the Sox were working to get Griffey and many people refused to let him start over Rowand....and rightfully so, very few baseball fans know what Rowand brings to the table defensively besides Sox fans.

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QUOTE(spiderman @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 10:23 PM)
I say keep Rowand, Pods, and Dye in the OF, have Anderson as the 4th OF and part-time DH, and find one more bat as insurance in case Anderson struggles (maybe Frank Thomas)....

Barring a trade involving a guy on Thome's level...I think that sounds like the best plan I can possibly imagine.

 

Anywho...Rowand is on the trading block for a couple reasons. 1...we have talent coming up that can replace him. 2...we proved this year that there's a demand for center fielders who can be a vacuum cleaner. 3. Several teams, including the Yankees and Red Sox, suffered through a long season of outfielders with limited range.

 

I personally wouldn't trade Rowand for either Wang or for Sheffield...unless we got more in the deal, and we had someone lined up to take another starting pitcher off of our hands (i.e. someone willing to give us a gigantic MVP caliber bat for Contreras or something like that)

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QUOTE(watchtower41 @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 01:28 PM)
I'd have to agree with most that has been said in here so far, but I look at this is another way too.  The Sox have had plenty of offers and situations where Row could have been dealt in the past, despite being a bench player on this team for years....faith was never lost, and the Sox refused to let him go in a deal.  I am one to believe that 2004 was NOT a career year from Aaron and he will put numbers up like that again. I don't see the logic in shopping him around when his value is much lower than it ever has been. Ive said it once and I'll say it again, there is nobody else I would want roaming CF in the American League other than Row (including that azz clown Hunter).  He may not be a cluctch hitter, but he is the kind of grinder player that defines this team, just because we won, the philosphy should not be changed to prepare for the future.  Anderson deserves to play and will, imo not at the expense of Row.  It was mere months ago when the Sox were working to get Griffey and many people refused to let him start over Rowand....and rightfully so, very few baseball fans know what Rowand brings to the table defensively besides Sox fans.

 

If you would rather have Rowand over Griffey (when healthy) or Edmonds then you are being completely foolish. Sheffield has an OPS of nearly 900 while Rowand is in the low 700s. I don't know if Sheffield is the right guy but I think that trading Rowand makes a ton of sense. IF the scouting reports on Anderson are correct-we won't lose anything in the move in center and we'd upgrade another part of our offense/team

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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 02:19 PM)
Would anyone trade A-row for sheffield to DH?

 

Im not even sure if Sheff isnt a FA, just a question.

No, mainly because I hate Sheffield more than almost any player in the league.

 

QUOTE(knightni @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 02:22 PM)
I'd still do a Rowand for Wang trade with the Yankees.

Why do we need more pitching? Unless you want to trade one of our then 6 starters for a big bat, it would make no sense to trade one of the best defenders in CF for *another* starter.

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QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 02:21 PM)
I would do Rowand for Sheffield were it not for the issue of Sheffield demanding an extension if he is traded. I believe he is a FA after this year because I think he signed a three year deal and has been a Yank for two years. I don't believe option years were involved although deferred money was. Sheffield in this park in a contract year could be phenomenal but you'd need to feel him out to make sure he isn't goign to be a prick when he comes here.

Sheffield would be probably one of the top 3 DH's in the league however. And would absolutley mash in this park.

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QUOTE(Felix @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 02:52 PM)
Why do we need more pitching?  Unless you want to trade one of our then 6 starters for a big bat, it would make no sense to trade one of the best defenders in CF for *another* starter.

Because, you need to stay young and lower salaried to be a consistantly winning franchise.

 

Contreras could go with Marte to Philly or Florida for a bat.

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QUOTE(knightni @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 02:54 PM)
Because, you need to stay young and lower salaried to be a consistantly winning franchise.

Yes, but having 6 starters doesn't make sense unless one is already in a deal to be traded (as you suggested with Contreras and Marte to Philly/Florida)

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QUOTE(knightni @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 07:54 PM)
Because, you need to stay young and lower salaried to be a consistantly winning franchise.

 

Contreras could go with Marte to Philly or Florida for a bat.

 

Contreras won't be going anywhere. If he did, it certainly wouldn't be just for one bat. The sox can't replace a top of the rotation guy like Jose that easy.

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I think they should be very cautious about dealing Rowand.  Cheap CF'ers who play the position defensively as well as he does, and provide some power, are real hard to find.

 

absolutely. and rowand seems like such an integral part of the team. i say we keep everyone that we can unless we can work some amazing deal.

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I am not in the camp that Wang is all that special, I'd rather have Rowand. I think Wang will be a 4th starter. There is nothing wrong with that and he'll probably have some winning seasons but I don't think he's a guy you gun for

 

yes, i agree. wang is another flavor of the month. the yanks throw millions at anyone who could be good. counting on him to be some kind of ace will probably leave you dissappointed in the end somehow.

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QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 08:49 PM)
...and why would Florida want Rowand?

 

 

Florida has made it clear that they have interest in three players on our Major League Roster... Marte, Contreras, and Rowand. A trade of adding Rowand allows the Marlins to have a cheaper/new alternative to Pierre in center. Pierre will be dealt, if not during the offseason... before the trade deadline. The Marlins are supposedly trying to cut their payroll in half (YIKES).

 

If I had to bet on one player getting traded this offseason, it would be Damaso Marte (but we would need to add another lefty first). If that doesn't happen, I see Rowand as next in line to be dealt.

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QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 08:55 PM)
Florida has made it clear that they have interest in three players on our Major League Roster... Marte, Contreras, and Rowand.

 

 

They have? I know those were the trade rumors going around at the deadline, that doesnt mean we have the full story. Unless Pierre gets traded and they dont get a centerfieder in return I don't see why they would have interest in Aaron.

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