Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted May 18, 2003 Share Posted May 18, 2003 umm yeah when i play i sure do.. and its alot like the way 2k does it.. quick and easy...........thats why i said i dont have time enough to go diggin through bunch of s*** to figure out how my guy did ....lol.............. Oh but you do have the time to follow the game as it unfolds ... hey i only care about my pick.. and yea im watchin the damn game why shouldnt i keep up with what my pick is doing.. and i dont need to write it down on paper like your method...........geez us.. simple..... keep it simple......or else you loose everyones interest.............its only for fun anyhow so who the hell cares................. simple system for simple minds I guess. No matter how inaccurate it is. hey as long as my guy wins i dont care how damn simple it is........... gotta win something ..this sorry ass excuse of a team sure isnt winning....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 How about just accenting the positive on offense: a single and a run scored count for 1 point each a double is 2 points a triple is 3 points a homer is 4 points an RBI is 2 points You total up the box score as follows: Frank Thomas hits a homer with two on base 4-1-1-3 so he gets 12 points D Jimenez gets a double 4-0-1-0 so he gets 2 points You could add walks if you like and give a score of 1, but let's not accent the negative. We have too much of that already. You could do pitchers, but I think that's a lot harder to evaluate in a single game. I am open to whatever everyone else thinks there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 19, 2003 Author Share Posted May 19, 2003 How about just accenting the positive on offense: a single and a run scored count for 1 point each a double is 2 points a triple is 3 points a homer is 4 points an RBI is 2 points You total up the box score as follows: Frank Thomas hits a homer with two on base 4-1-1-3 so he gets 12 points D Jimenez gets a double 4-0-1-0 so he gets 2 points You could add walks if you like and give a score of 1, but let's not accent the negative. We have too much of that already. You could do pitchers, but I think that's a lot harder to evaluate in a single game. I am open to whatever everyone else thinks there. The negatives ONLY come into effect if there is a tie between players. I didn't like the idea of using negatives to determine a winner, so we decided to use them only as a tie breaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 How about just accenting the positive on offense: a single and a run scored count for 1 point each a double is 2 points a triple is 3 points a homer is 4 points an RBI is 2 points You total up the box score as follows: Frank Thomas hits a homer with two on base 4-1-1-3 so he gets 12 points D Jimenez gets a double 4-0-1-0 so he gets 2 points You could add walks if you like and give a score of 1, but let's not accent the negative. We have too much of that already. You could do pitchers, but I think that's a lot harder to evaluate in a single game. I am open to whatever everyone else thinks there. The negatives ONLY come into effect if there is a tie between players. I didn't like the idea of using negatives to determine a winner, so we decided to use them only as a tie breaker. Only asking a question here Southsider: Are ties that bad? I can see your point in doing that though if we have all 9 hitters tied, which may have or can happen. But thanks for the explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 19, 2003 Author Share Posted May 19, 2003 We all kinda thought it was best to have as clear of a winner as possible. But there are instances where even the tie breakers end up as a tie. In those cases there are multiple winners for that particular day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arneharris Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Great idea adding pitchers, depending on how it's implemented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arneharris Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 CG SO, 10 hit game = 17 pts (the equivalent o f2 GS would beat that) That juggernaut system isn't so much complicated as it is unfair. A CG SO, 10 hit game (17pt) game is impossible to beat.......2GS???? A pitcher having a CG SO, 10 hit game quite likely owes much to his defense, not necessarily his pitching prowess, and probably threw wayyyy too many pitches. If someone hit a 2 run bomb that was the difference (say, the oppositions pitcher was throwing a 3 hitter against the Sox), I'd have to say that jack was pretty damn important. 17 points to the pitcher in such a game seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idseer Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 IMO FWIW leave it alone. it's fair as it is, it's understood by everyone. forget the pitchers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 It sure is fun joining a board, reading through the archives. As I was reading I kept looking for the prize, a car, season tickets, all this for bragging rights? God I love being a Sox fan! Are we counting pitchers? BTW and FWIW wouldn't a totally objective panel of 3 or 4 people just picking a player be a better system. Then the arguments can last all the way until the first pitch of the next game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 It sure is fun joining a board, reading through the archives. As I was reading I kept looking for the prize, a car, season tickets, all this for bragging rights? God I love being a Sox fan all that testosterone built up in one place ..... gotta love it huh......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 That juggernaut system isn't so much complicated as it is unfair. A CG SO, 10 hit game (17pt) game is impossible to beat.......2GS???? Actually it's not 17 pts. Pitchers: 1 pt per out, -1 pt per base, -1 pt per run, + pts (ip - er) 27 + 9 = 36 max. Now it's a question of the value of the 10 hits. If they didnt' advance any runners then = 26. Even if a team won 2-0 based on a 2 run hr, it be hard to take away a CG SO performance from a starting pitcher as a PTC. Let's look at some examples: Colon 27 outs, 9 hits, 1 er, 2 w, 17 LOB. =27-17-2-1+8 = 15 pts Do you feel Colon's performance last night was worth 15 pts? Hitters: 1 pt per base & 1 base for each advancement of a runner. JV = 4, MO = 2, Mol = 5, TG =3, FT = 8, CL = 5, PK = 7, AR = 2, JC = 3 Frank Thomas with just a walk & a double with RON amassed 8 pts. Do I feel that Colon's performance was twice as good as Frank Thomas'? You bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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