Steff Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Eagles' McNabb Told to Have Surgery ROB MAADDI, AP Sports Writer 51 minutes ago PHILADELPHIA - Donovan McNabb's next important decision won't be calling an audible at the line of scrimmage. McNabb was told Thursday to have surgery for a sports hernia that probably would end his season. The Eagles' quarterback is considering his options. It's likely he'll seek other opinions before making a final decision. Mike McMahon, who had been the third-string quarterback, will start Philadelphia's game against the New York Giants on Sunday. The struggling Eagles already are without star receiver Terrell Owens, who was suspended four games and told not to return to the team last week. "Whatever guys we have left have to get the job done," safety Brian Dawkins said. McNabb has played through injuries most of the season. He re-injured his groin while trying to tackle Cowboys safety Roy Williams following an interception on Monday night. Williams returned it 46 yards for a touchdown with 2:43 left to lead Dallas to a 21-20 comeback victory over the Eagles. Dr. William Meyers recommended that McNabb have surgery now to correct the sports hernia after an examination Thursday morning. McNabb had planned to have surgery after the season, but he said Wednesday he wasn't sure if he'd do it sooner. "It's important that we all be on the same page because you don't want to go through it and hear later that you might have been able to play through it and have the surgery later," McNabb said before seeing Meyers, a specialist who serves as chairman of surgery at Drexel University. Sports hernias are most common among male athletes. A diagnosis sometimes can be tricky because, unlike more common hernias, there is not always a visible bulge in the leg or groin area. And with about 18 different variations, sports hernias can range from torn muscles to frayed muscles to a weakness in the abdominal wall. Sometimes, the symptoms masquerade as a hip joint problem, a groin pull, a strained abdominal muscle or bursitis in the hip. A five-time Pro Bowl selection, McNabb clearly hasn't been the same quarterback who led the Eagles to the NFC championship game the last four years. He has thrown a costly interception in the fourth quarter in each of the last three games, and has nine picks this season. He threw just eight interceptions last season when he became the first player in NFL history to throw more than 30 touchdown passes (31) and fewer than 10 interceptions. Overall, McNabb has passed for 2,507 yards, 16 TDs and has a passer rating of 85.0 this season. His troubles started off the field with the turmoil between him and Owens. McNabb feuded with Owens throughout the summer after he was criticized by the All-Pro wideout, and the two didn't speak for a prolonged period. They clicked on the field, however, with Owens catching 47 passes for 763 yards and six TDs in seven games. Owens was suspended following a series of incidents, including repeated criticism of McNabb and lashing out at the organization. The Eagles have lost both games without Owens. McNabb hurt his chest in the season opener and has been bothered by the sports hernia for months. "He's our leader. If he's out, it's a major hit," tight end L.J. Smith said. "It's definitely a blow to our offense." The reigning conference champion Eagles (4-5) have lost three straight games and are last in the NFC East. Now they turn the offense over to McMahon, a fifth-year pro who has started just seven games. McMahon spent his first four seasons in Detroit, and had a 43.8 completion percentage with 10 TD passes and 13 interceptions. He showed his mobility by running for 273 yards on 46 carries. "Mike has a strong arm, he has good speed and he makes good decisions," running back Brian Westbrook said. "I'm confident in his ability to go out and make plays." McNabb had started the last 37 games, excluding the meaningless regular-season finale last season. He's missed a total of seven games due to injury during his seven-year career, including the last six regular-season games in 2002 after breaking his ankle. Koy Detmer and A.J. Feeley filled in for McNabb that season, leading the Eagles to a 5-1 finish and the No. 1 spot in the conference. McNabb returned for the playoffs, but the Eagles lost the NFC championship game to Tampa Bay. Offensive coordinator Brad Childress said the transition to McMahon should be smoother than the one to Feeley, who went 4-1 playing for McNabb in just his second season. "It's easier from the standpoint that (McMahon) has actual game experience," Childress said. "I think he'll play a lot like A.J., disciplined in the system. He has more movement abilities than A.J." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 McNabb's probably my favorite guy outside of Indy. He's had a rough year. Hopefully he comes back stronger and healthier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I don't like Donovan for some reason. Even though he's a Chicago guy-doesn't it seem like he's not really any more liked here than elsewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I got lots of respect for Donovan. Come back strong next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 The Madden cover curse is alive and well. It's getting spooky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 06:54 PM) The Madden cover curse is alive and well. It's getting spooky. True. Ray Lewis survived it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 07:11 PM) True. Ray Lewis survived it though. Everyone knows defensive players have immunity to the cover curse. Come on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 DAMMIT! First Julius Jones, then Terrell Owens, NOW Donovan McNabb. Who's next on my team? Antonio Gates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 So, I hope Peyton stays the hell away from EA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 07:53 PM) So, I hope Peyton stays the hell away from EA. Tom Brady should be the cover boy. I mean he is the better QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 If Reggie Bush comes out from USC. Just think of him in the backfield if they can get him in the draft. That is the missing piece in that offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 10:58 PM) If Reggie Bush comes out from USC. Just think of him in the backfield if they can get him in the draft. That is the missing piece in that offense. A number of teams can get that #1 pick. One of them is not Philadelphia. I could see them losing out and still winding up with the 2nd pick in the draft; in fact, if they did lose out, I would see them 2nd at best. Edited November 18, 2005 by witesoxfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 A number of teams can get that #1 pick. One of them is not Philadelphia. I could see them losing out and still winding up with the 2nd pick in the draft; in fact, if they did lose out, I would see them 2nd at best. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now looking at it.. Bush is going to San Fran, unless there is a major trade on draft day. or if the Jets manage a worse record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 12:24 AM) Now looking at it.. Bush is going to San Fran, unless there is a major trade on draft day. or if the Jets manage a worse record. don't count out Houston, they're awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxrd5 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 07:23 PM) DAMMIT! First Julius Jones, then Terrell Owens, NOW Donovan McNabb. Who's next on my team? Antonio Gates? Ha I have that beat... I have Terrell Owens, Ben Rothliesberger, and Preist Holmes Plus I was carrying four RB's: Priest Holmes, Thomas Jones, Willie Parker and Fred Taylor. All four were out last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confederate_48 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 11:37 PM) I don't like Donovan for some reason. Even though he's a Chicago guy-doesn't it seem like he's not really any more liked here than elsewhere? I dont like him and I get the feeling his teammates dont either. I never heard any teammates coming out and backing him against T.O. but I do hear all of his teammates saying they want T.O. back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Well there really havent been any teamates backing him up too much throughout the whole thing until TO's last comment about Favre. Ive never been a big fan of D-Mac either though... b4 TO came he really wasnt that great of a QB and the Eagles mostly won w/ their defense. Hell they won what 3 games in a row with their 3rd string QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 don't count out Houston, they're awful. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They have Dominck Davis.. No reason for Bush in Houston they will be going after D'Brickasaw Fergeouson (sp) OL help. Carr has no time to throw the fa-king ball. They might also go D help as well, RB is not a huge concern for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 12:55 PM) They have Dominck Davis.. No reason for Bush in Houston they will be going after D'Brickasaw Fergeouson (sp) OL help. Carr has no time to throw the fa-king ball. They might also go D help as well, RB is not a huge concern for them. ^^ Houston needs to look at D'Brick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirScott Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 01:55 PM) They have Dominck Davis.. No reason for Bush in Houston they will be going after D'Brickasaw Fergeouson (sp) OL help. Carr has no time to throw the fa-king ball. They might also go D help as well, RB is not a huge concern for them. true, but the Bears did draft Benson when they had other, more pressing needs. don't underestimate the idiocy of some of these front-office types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 true, but the Bears did draft Benson when they had other, more pressing needs. don't underestimate the idiocy of some of these front-office types. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Blame Ron Turner for that stupid draft pick..Guy needs to be coaching Pee-wee football, the reason we drafted benson is Turner didn't think TJ could run in his version of Schoop offense. And of course Turner was wrong, now Angelo looks llike a moron for drafting benson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Play the David Carr Quarterback Game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Pretty much sums it up, with the carr game on why Bush will not be a Texan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 If the Texans were smart, they'd trade down to get two 1st rounders. Get two OLs or maybe an OL and a WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 06:54 PM) If the Texans were smart, they'd trade down to get two 1st rounders. Get two OLs or maybe an OL and a WR. I'm assuming if a new coach is brought in and he has a 4-3 defense, they may try to draft a DT as well. But it all starts with that OL. Whoever they've got coaching it, ain't doing the job. They need to try and sign a Hudson Houck etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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