3E8 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 He's almost worth more in terms of revenue he generates than what he gives you on the field. Performance only, there's no way he's a $15M/year player. I wouldn't sell the farm for Ichiro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 08:26 PM) Chris Young, Gio Gonzalez, and Lance Broadway might pique Seattle's interest. Not a chance in hell I would give up those 3 players for any player not named Albert Pujols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Are we even allowed to trade Broadway?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 02:53 PM) Not a chance in hell I would give up those 3 players for any player not named Albert Pujols. I would give up those three in a second. I don't think the M's would take a package unless it included Garland or B-Mac. Or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 03:53 PM) Not a chance in hell I would give up those 3 players for any player not named Albert Pujols. I would, in a second, for Ichiro. Won't happen though, they'd want one of our SP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) I would, in a second, for Ichiro. Won't happen though, they'd want one of our SP's. Contreras...maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 03:53 PM) Not a chance in hell I would give up those 3 players for any player not named Albert Pujols. I agree with you there. I'm all for improving the team as is, but if it takes three of our great prospects to do so, especially for someone who doesn't draw the walk all that much, I wouldn't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(Felix @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 03:24 PM) I agree with you there. I'm all for improving the team as is, but if it takes three of our great prospects to do so, especially for someone who doesn't draw the walk all that much, I wouldn't do it. Walks? He averages 230 hits a year and an .377 OBP. He's also one of the most unique talents in baseball, for three prospects. I wouldn't flinch. But, unless we give them a proven big league starter it'll never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(shakes @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 04:29 PM) Walks? He averages 230 hits a year and an .377 OBP. He's also one of the most unique talents in baseball, for three prospects. I wouldn't flinch. But, unless we give them a proven big league starter it'll never happen. He also has almost 700 AB's a year, and will wear down easily, as shown by last year's decrease in numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(Felix @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 03:32 PM) He also has almost 700 AB's a year, and will wear down easily, as shown by last year's decrease in numbers. That to me is a sign of durability. He had very similar numbers in 2003 and look how he followed that up. Besides, the M's were awfull last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(shakes @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 04:37 PM) That to me is a sign of durability. He had very similar numbers in 2003 and look how he followed that up. Besides, the M's were awfull last year. What does the M's being crap last year have anything to do with it? That should just mean that he gets less AB's, because the other players on the team can't get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(Felix @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 03:39 PM) What does the M's being crap last year have anything to do with it? That should just mean that he gets less AB's, because the other players on the team can't get on. People in their organization have been saying he was bored with losing and hates the lack of leadership in the clubhouse. This is why all of this started. Some of this may have led to his "down" year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Personally I would trade Rowand and Garland for Ichiro, he is that good of a player.. Garland had one good year, I am leary of having him repeat his performance. this would allow anderson and speed in the lineup ElDque as the number 5 again, Bmac at 3 My thing is if He comes here Dye is our new 1b, I don't think we can sign both Ichrio and Paulie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 04:00 PM) Personally I would trade Rowand and Garland for Ichiro, he is that good of a player.. Garland had one good year, I am leary of having him repeat his performance. this would allow anderson and speed in the lineup ElDque as the number 5 again, Bmac at 3 My thing is if He comes here Dye is our new 1b, I don't think we can sign both Ichrio and Paulie. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's actually the first trade proposal involving trading ARow I've heard that's actally appealing. BUT, Garland and ARow are excellent players, and as I've said before, no one is at liberty so say that they are going to get worse or not get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 09:00 AM) Personally I would trade Rowand and Garland for Ichiro, he is that good of a player.. Garland had one good year, I am leary of having him repeat his performance. this would allow anderson and speed in the lineup ElDque as the number 5 again, Bmac at 3 My thing is if He comes here Dye is our new 1b, I don't think we can sign both Ichrio and Paulie. Why would Seattle want Rowand? They've already got Reed in CF (and he played great defense for them too BTW). They're going to need to upgrade the offense way more than that if they're going to trade Ichiro. It takes two to tango. Ichiro means much more to that franchise then a lot of people realize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 I think Matsui's new deal with the Yankees showed that the top of the line Japanese players, which IMO only right now includes Ichiro and Matsui, are worth more to the teams financially then numbers will show. Before i get attacked, what I mean by "top of the line" is the players who were phenoms in Japan. I know Iguchi and other players were popular and still are in Japan, Ichiro and Matsui are absolute superstars there, and they bring in a lot of Japanese advertising money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABearSoX Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 08:21 PM) I'll give a lump.. Remember Steff, you should get a mamogram once a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timotime Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 there is no ichiro in our future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Why would Seattle want Rowand? They've already got Reed in CF (and he played great defense for them too BTW). They're going to need to upgrade the offense way more than that if they're going to trade Ichiro. It takes two to tango. Ichiro means much more to that franchise then a lot of people realize. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I just said that those are the 2 I would give up. I understand how much Ichiro means to seattle, and it would take alot to get him here, but I would only give up those 2 to get him. As for where Rowand would play, he can play either RF/LF it was my understanding that he came up as a Corner OF, he would go there, which ever he play with reed in CF that part ofthe field is covered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Ichi-rolls at the Cell??? Wowza! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 I think Sexson or Beltre would be more likely to be dealt and I doubt either of them are traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Convince me why the M's would trade arguably the most complete player in the game today. All he lacks is power & that usually keeps the price down. You can buy power. It's available every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takatsufan Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Just thinking of Ichiro in black pinstripes makes me excited. If we could get him, I'd start talking about a, dare I say it, repeat. Plus he would have good clubhouse chemistry with his fellow countrymen, Iguchi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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