GreatScott82 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 According to Jayson Stark: "Contrary to numerous reports, the Texas Rangers aren't the leading contender to land Marlins starter Josh Beckett in a package deal with third baseman Mike Lowell. Josh Beckett Starting Pitcher Florida Marlins Profile 2005 SEASON STATISTICS GM W L BB K ERA 29 15 8 58 166 3.38 According to baseball officials who have been in contact with Florida, the Marlins have two other potential deals -- with Boston and an unnamed "mystery" team" could that mistery team be the White Sox? KW loves flying under that radar. But we are maxed out at pitching. Unless this is the first of a chain of events happening. Like #1 Beckett and Pierre for Rowand and top prospect. #2 White Sox trade Garland and prospect to Phils for Thome? I dunno im probably overthinking this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 03:42 PM) I dunno im probably overthinking this situation. Yes you are, we are not taking on Lowell's contract. That's an important part of this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Also Beckett has injury problems. I know he's really good, but I don't think he fits in with what KW wants. There's no reason to gamble on the possibility of Beckett being good when pitching is already a strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 If the Sox traded Rowand and a prospect for 2 of Florida's biggest offseason chips, and then traded Garland straight up for Thome, I would snap. I want Pierre, and while I like Beckett, the rotation is set into place right now. There is no need for Beckett. And there is no way in hell Florida does that to begin with either, knowing that they can get Blalock AND stud pitching prospect for atleast Beckett, and with Texas perhaps picking up Lowell for next year too. And Garland for Thome is straight up robbery by Philly. A 36 year old-to-be in August who has an ugly contract for a guy that just finally put it together? I would consider Garland for Teix, and even then I may not even consider that, knowing Teix's agent is Boras and that he's gone in a couple years anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 it sounds like it's the dodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 03:42 PM) I dunno im probably overthinking this situation. ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 I could see that, but what would the Dodgers be giving up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 My money is on the St. Louis Cardinals as the mystery team. They will use Lowell in left, bench or spin him. I'd bet on them to be involved as they were the surprise of the Burnett sweepstakes so you know they have interest in a power pitcher and want to spend more money than most had thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timotime Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 i dont think that it could be us. we got good pitching already. it seems like that would be much to drastic for KW to do. though i could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 We aren't the mystery team. If anything, we will be trying to dump a starting pitcher (El Duque), not add another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 03:03 PM) My money is on the St. Louis Cardinals as the mystery team. They will use Lowell in left, bench or spin him. I'd bet on them to be involved as they were the surprise of the Burnett sweepstakes so you know they have interest in a power pitcher and want to spend more money than most had thought That would make some sense...they could also use a backup 3b in case Rolen goes down again, as it seems he may do fairly often. And on the Dodger question...let's not forget that the Dodgers have one of the best minor leagues in baseball right now...if they wanted to make deals, they have plenty of pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofIChiSox Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 I've heard the mystery team was the Dodgers too, but I don't have anymore info than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 (edited) Gammons is steering the trade to the Red Sox. Beckett and Lowell to the Red Sox for a mix of players headed by Jon Papelbon. edit: not Papelbon, he could be included, but most likely Anibel Sanchez and Hanley Ramirez and the ever famous PTBNL Edited November 22, 2005 by kyyle23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 SC says Red Sox and pending a physical it's official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 The Marlins will get ripped off if this thing is centered around Hanley Ramirez (without including Papelbon). Hanley is way overrated, and batted somewhere in the .280's in AA last year, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 It's the Red Sox, folks. Yippee. The rich get richer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 The more I look, the More I agree with Milkman about Hanley Ramirez...I've heard that name for like 2 years now but nothing I've seen justifies the hype yet...the Red Sox may very well be trying to use him as trade bait while he still has value left, especially since they have Renteria in a basically un-tradeable contract for 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 04:27 PM) It's the Red Sox, folks. Yippee. The rich get richer. One could have said the same thing last season when the Yankees went out and bought themselves a couple of pitchers, 1 from the Marlins, with nasty injury histories and questions about their reliability. Look what it got them. Don't underestimate the possibility tha thte Bosox will end up regretting this for injury-related reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 12:30 AM) One could have said the same thing last season when the Yankees went out and bought themselves a couple of pitchers, 1 from the Marlins, with nasty injury histories and questions about their reliability. Look what it got them. Don't underestimate the possibility tha thte Bosox will end up regretting this for injury-related reasons. blisters anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 By the way, what's Beckett's contract status? Isn't he about a year away from being a FA? Sure Boston could have the cash to sign him, but if he's closing in on that, then the Marlins are wise to take what they can get for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 No way. The sox don't need Beckett and Lowell. I have a feeling this will blow up in Boston's face, if they land these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 i'm curious if the red sox keep lowell, or agree to eat some of his contract and spin him off to someone else. i remember reading the twinkies were interested in him a few weeks back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Done Deal. Trade with the Red Sox is set. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2232211 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 No idea who made this trade within the Red Sox organization. That's an interesting question alone. I think this'll end up like the Pavano deal and I'm not too sure this ends so well for the Red Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 QUOTE(Wedge @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 01:26 AM) No idea who made this trade within the Red Sox organization. That's an interesting question alone. I think this'll end up like the Pavano deal and I'm not too sure this ends so well for the Red Sox. i'd guess lucchino had the lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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