Garnett to be dealt?

[Brian]

ESPN has an insider story about Garnett making harsh comments about McHale and could lead to a deal to NY or Detroit before 06!

 

What would it take to get him in Chicago? Tyson and what else? Gordon? I may do that.

[witesoxfan]

Dealing Garnett would be the single dumbest thing any Minnesota team has ever done. You don't trade the best player in the NBA.

 

As a franchise, you also have to take into consideration what other teams within your region are doing. The Vikings traded Moss - the superstar but controversial receiver. The Twins may end up trading Torii Hunter this year - the player loved by fans not only throughout Minnesota, but throughout the nation. Not sure about the NHL, but there hasn't been much activity at all in the past year so the Wild hasn't been able to do much to mess with their marketing.

 

So why would you trade Garnett, who is one of the last remaining drawing points in Minnesota sports?

[Rowand44]

  You don't trade the best player in the NBA.

 

 

Duncan ain't going anywhere. Anyways, I agree with the premise of what you said, dealing KG is just stupid and brian....Tyson plus Ben for KG is a no brainer. It would take more then that.

[ZoomSlowik]

Maybe if they could actually build a real team around KG he wouldn't be so pissed off. Garnett's salary hampers them a bit, but there's still some work that could be done. Since Garnett became a premier player (for argument's sake I'll say in his second year), he's had one year with Marbury, 3 to 3 1/2 years of Gugliota, and 1 year where Spree and Cassell worked. People use the rings as a reason that Duncan is better than KG, but if you put Garnett on the same team as Parker and Ginobili, would the results be any different? I doubt it.

 

Trading Garnett would be one of the dumbest moves ever, unless the got a superstar player in return. I'd kill to see him on the Bulls, that'd be huge. However, it's highly unlikely, and the costs would be very high. Considering that to get Shaq Miami gave up Odom, an all-star caliber player that year, Butler, an up and coming SF, and Grant, a passable but expensive big man, it'd be pretty rough. Not only would we have to give up a lot of talent, but we'd also have to get close to matching his salary. To make matters worse, Garnett would demand more value because he is younger and less injury prone than Diesel. This means the deal would almost have to include Chandler, and they'd probably want Hinrich or Deng. Gordon might not cut it because not everyone is enamored with his suspect defense and the double whammy of iffy shot selection and frequent ball-hogging tendencies. Even assuming we could build a deal around those two, we'd also probably have to include at least one first round pick. It's conceivable it'd take 3 of the 4 players I mentioned.

Edited November 22, 2005 by ZoomSlowik

[Palehosefan]

I don't see him being dealt, and they are actually in 1st place right now with a nice rotation going on. I'm hoping he sticks around, he and McCants have seemed to hit it off. But Chandler, Deng, and Hinrich would have to atleast peak Minnesota's interests. That would give them a starting big man, starting SF, and starting PG. With a lineup of Hinrich, McCants, Deng, Chandler, and Griffin for the future. While leaving the Bulls with Duhon, Gordon, Nocioni, Sweetney, and Garnett as a possible starting lineup.

[Rowand44]

I don't see him being dealt

Agreed, I don't see him going anywhere.

[qwerty]

Garnett has been getting traded for three years now. It's getting as bad as vince carter rumors now.

[GoodAsGould]

I don't see him being dealt, and they are actually in 1st place right now with a nice rotation going on. I'm hoping he sticks around, he and McCants have seemed to hit it off. But Chandler, Deng, and Hinrich would have to atleast peak Minnesota's interests. That would give them a starting big man, starting SF, and starting PG. With a lineup of Hinrich, McCants, Deng, Chandler, and Griffin for the future. While leaving the Bulls with Duhon, Gordon, Nocioni, Sweetney, and Garnett as a possible starting lineup.

 

Id be fine giving up Chandler and Hinrich..... but no to Deng....dont mind giving up another player but Chandler/Hinrich/Deng is too much for 1 player especially when he is already what 30?

[Chisoxfn]

ESPN has an insider story about Garnett making harsh comments about McHale and could lead to a deal to NY or Detroit before 06!

 

What would it take to get him in Chicago? Tyson and what else? Gordon? I may do that.

I'd give up everything but Hinrich and Deng for Garnett. Yes I'd give up Gordon, Tim Thomas (for contractual purposes) and I'd try to hang onto Chandler (but I'd deal him or Sweetney or whoever else). I'd give up the farm to get a star like him. Put him with Hinrich, Duhon, Deng, Noc and whoever else is left and I'd be really happy.

 

Of course I highly doubt the Bulls would match up, but I bet Garnett would like to come to Chicago.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

Id be fine giving up Chandler and Hinrich..... but no to Deng....dont mind giving up another player but Chandler/Hinrich/Deng is too much for 1 player especially when he is already what 30?

 

I'd give up the whole team and players from other teams if I could...

 

There really isn't a single Bulls player that I find not expendable when it comes to getting someone like KG.

[DBAHO]

Maybe if Garnett went off at Glen Taylor instead of Kevin McHale, then yeah his chances of getting dealt would signifcantly increase.

 

But how bout a nice little Steve Francis, Kelvin Cato and DeShawn Stevenson package eh Kevin?

[Jordan4life_2007]

I'd give up the whole team and players from other teams if I could...

 

There really isn't a single Bulls player that I find not expendable when it comes to getting someone like KG.

 

What's the point of having KG and crap?

[knightni]

What's the point of having KG and crap?

That's what Minnesota has wondered since 1999.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

What's the point of having KG and crap?

 

It's better than crap piled up on top of crap?

 

Minny obviously isn't doing it right, and I'm confident Pax would do a much better job surrounding a superstar like KG with the right talent. Too bad we'll never know.

 

To be honest, no Bulls player really excites me, and I don't see this team developing into a current Pistons-caliber team that would be capable of getting far into the playoffs. Although somewhat deep (except at C), the Bulls teams of these past two seasons basically seem like perennial 6-7-8 seed contenders. I honestly see very little upside, especially with players like Chandler actually regressing.

 

It would be nice to find a way to get a high-quality, superstar-type player on the Bulls. I do hope Peja is serious, but I would luv it even more if Pax can pull a blockbuster deal. My fingers are crossed.

[RockRaines]

Can we just send tape of KG dunking on my in high school to try and bring him back to his hometown?

[hammerhead johnson]

I honestly see very little upside, especially with players like Chandler actually regressing.

 

Chandler is 22 years old, not 32. Remember, he's still a baby in NBA terms. He's trying to adjust to a new position. He'll probably have to move back to PF, which is fine. I envisioned him as a ranger out of the C, but when he peaks, I'd much rather have him guarding the Duncans, Garnetts, and Stoudamires of the world.

 

And remember, we'll have two first round picks next year and a s***load of cap space. This year doesn't really mean anything IMO. It's all about player development. If we manage to sneak into the playoffs this year, that would be great, but I wouldn't exactly be heartbroken if we came up short.

 

Michael Sweetney could be one heck of a 6th man next year if he drops like 30 pounds. He's been putting up some numbers against some of the weaker frontcourts in the West Coast recently. I'm pleasantly surprised, but I'm not giddy.

[witesoxfan]

Duncan ain't going anywhere.  

 

I'm not much of an NBA fan...but I take Garnett before I take Duncan.

[GoodAsGould]

I'd give up the whole team and players from other teams if I could...

 

There really isn't a single Bulls player that I find not expendable when it comes to getting someone like KG.

 

Id give up any 1 person on the team and maybe 2 or 3.... but I wouldnt give up all 3 of Hinrich, Deng, and Chandler..... id be fine with Hinrich, Chandler and ??? but not all 3 of those guys.

[Gene Honda Civic]

I heard the Cubs were talking to him about a set-up role.

[WilliamTell]

I'd rather have Duncan over Garnett, but Garnett's not going anywhere. He's realized that they don't have a chance at winning anything outside the division with their roster as of now. I always thought the Marbury trade was stupid, why would you want to leave an up and coming team? To be closer to home I guess, but still.

[Chisoxfn]

I'd rather have Duncan over Garnett, but Garnett's not going anywhere. He's realized that they don't have a chance at winning anything outside the division with their roster as of now. I always thought the Marbury trade was stupid, why would you want to leave an up and coming team? To be closer to home I guess, but still.

Marbury is a freaking loser. Tell me one player he's ever made better. The guy has never won anywhere he went and if you notice teams tend to do better after he leaves.

[hammerhead johnson]

Yeah, Marbury is just another one-on-one streetball legend that could never adapt to a TEAM game.

 

He would be WAY up there on my list of most-hated players along with Antoine Walker, Steve Francis, Allen Iverson, Ben Gordon, Drew Gooden, Ricky Davis, Jason Terry, Jerry Stackhouse, Keith Van Horn, Mike Dunleavy, Juwan Howard, Eddie Jones, Damon Stoudamire, Jason Williams, Wally Szczerbiak, Michael Olowakandi, Vince Carter, Jamal Crawford, Tim Thomas, Jerome James, Eddy Curry, Bonzi Wells, Danny Fortson, Jalen Rose, Rafer Alston, etc.

 

If I'm in a fantasy league, I'm not drafting any of these guys on principle.

[qwerty]

Yeah, Marbury is just another one-on-one streetball legend that could never adapt to a TEAM game.

 

He would be WAY up there on my list of most-hated players along with Antoine Walker, Steve Francis, Allen Iverson, Ben Gordon, Drew Gooden, Ricky Davis, Jason Terry, Jerry Stackhouse, Keith Van Horn, Mike Dunleavy, Juwan Howard, Eddie Jones, Damon Stoudamire, Jason Williams, Wally Szczerbiak, Michael Olowakandi, Vince Carter, Jamal Crawford, Tim Thomas, Jerome James, Eddy Curry, Bonzi Wells, Danny Fortson, Jalen Rose, Rafer Alston, etc.

 

If I'm in a fantasy league, I'm not drafting any of these guys on principle.

 

Please add darius miles. Every time i see him i wish some one would elbow him in the face.

[hammerhead johnson]

Please add darius miles. Every time i see him i wish some one would elbow him in the face.

 

 

I was actually going to say something about Darius Miles & why I was leaving him off, but I figured ahh f*** it. It seems like every time I see him play nowadays, I'm impressed. I didn't know that he had that type of defensive upside.

 

But then again, it's probably one of those things where he's only impressive in the games that you tune in for, and he is a lousy team player the rest of the time.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

But then again, it's probably one of those things where he's only impressive in the games that you tune in for, and he is a lousy team player the rest of the time.

 

Well, I've only seen him in 2, but his numbers have been pretty good too.

 

I usually root for the Illinois guys.

 

And I'd have a few questions as to why you hate a few of those guys...