Prospects for Players

[daa84]

What are your thoughts on Chris Young? Where does he fit in? Will one of them move to a corner OF position? Maybe when Jermaine Dye leaves?

young imo is still not proven enough...hes got the best upside, and his power is impressive..it was nice to see his walks increase last year..hopefully a decrease in strikeouts is the next step. Ive read that anderson long term will move to a corner, probably right with the arm that he has. Young is more fit for center field

[southsideirish]

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 04:07 PM)

I really don't see Kenny trading for Pierre.  Pierre will cost a lot in terms of prospects and salary in 2006 and we already have a dirt cheap option in Brian Anderson who supposedly plays very good defense in center field.  He also projects to put up Rowand-type offensive numbers.

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Rowand type offensive numbers as a rookie with a much bigger upside in power.

[LDF]

Well thanks for the opening there, nice intro ... 

 

They will bring in another bat who can serve as insurance for Crede's back.  Frankly I expect them to wait until after the 12/20 non tender date.  And I do not see them signing anybody as a FA until after the arbitration deadline, they do not want to give up draft choices.

 

My guess is they have their eyes on three guys and are waiting to see how it plays out ... Bill Mueller, Ryan Freel, and Tony Graffanino.  I think you will see 1 of those 3 on the 2006 White Sox.

 

Juan Pierre, yes, I think they will get him.  Strictly a guess on my part, not commenting on whether it's smart/good/bad/crazy/brilliant etc.

 

Konerko ... I think they'll get a deal done with him but if they don't watch for them to make two moves to compensate.  This is why they want a Konerko decision done quickly, i.e. before the arbitration deadline and the non tender date - so it gives them time and room to pursue other things in case Konerko bolts.

 

Ok so this is stepping out on the ledge but that's what this time of year is for 

 

I also predict that if KW trades more prospects a few people on this board will really get bent out of shape and call him an idiot. 

 

jim, thanks for the info even if it is your opinion which in my is more insightful than mine.

 

i do have to say some of you assessments bothers me, esp at the 3b option. i can swallow the thome trade, if we sign paulie and i know the reasons or the logic behind it, but i still don't like it. but is my thoughts. i would have preferred to get something more in return.

 

crede back does concerns me and that is why i would love to see an option via fa to solve that problem but yeah 12/20 dateline may be another way to solve that problem.

[LDF]

Personally, I was pissed that he gave them Gio.  Even though he is an injury risk, I felt like he was as close to a cant miss pitcher as we have.  Then I thought about it a little more and figured out what KW's thoughts were.  Trade some pitchers who might not pan out, get a player.  Next year, draft a bunch of arms again, hope 2 of them lool decent, trade them for a big league player.  We still have arms, RL, Broadway, both are good minor leaguers.

 

what are your thoughts on broadway future?

[RockRaines]

what are your thoughts on broadway future?

Well, if you look at Broadway for about the last year. He was a fast riser in the draft due to some of his performances against better talent and good teams. He wasnt getting as much attention as many of the other arms at the beginning of the season, but ended up 15-1 with a 1.62. He led all div 1 pitchers in wins, which says alot for consistency. One of the things that I like it that he throws about 92 mph, so he doesnt overpower alot of guys, but has learned to pitch instead of throw. He has a big frame 6-4 that could fit out and possibly add a few MPH, but I like his approach so far. It has been said that his major strengths are his ability to hit both sides of the plate with all pitches, has a plus change and good curve. It sounds to me like the makings of a big league pitcher much like Mark. Im looking to see him advance next year and be successful.

[RockRaines]

Heres BA's take on Broadway

 

Baseball America described Broadway as having an average fastball but a plus curveball, and a good delivery that allows him to have good command of the strike zone. During his liveblogging of the draft, John Sickels said of Broadway, "I like him but I think this is a slight overdraft. I know he's pitching great right now but his rise seems overhyped to me." That is my worry, too, based on nothing more than the fact that he was thought to be a second- or third-round pick until recently, when he had a series of impressive outings against good competition: Houston on April 29 (complete game); Cincinnati on May 6 (7 shutout innings); Louisville on May 13 (complete game, 1 run); nationally ranked Tulane on May 20 (complete game shutout); Southern Miss in the Conference USA tournament on May 26 (six shutout innings); and in the NCAA tournament against Stanford on June 4 (complete game, 1 run). Sickels was predicting that Broadway would be chosen by the Astros with the 24th pick of the first round.

 

Boyd Nation, writing for Baseball Prospectus, called Broadway perhaps the best value among college pitchers in the draft. Nation, who runs the Boyd's World college baseball site, did have some concerns that Broadway ran up some high pitch count games -- four times throwing more than 120 pitches, including two times with more than 130 pitches.

[AirScott]

Heres BA's take on Broadway

 

Baseball America described Broadway as having an average fastball but a plus curveball, and a good delivery that allows him to have good command of the strike zone. During his liveblogging of the draft, John Sickels said of Broadway, "I like him but I think this is a slight overdraft. I know he's pitching great right now but his rise seems overhyped to me." That is my worry, too, based on nothing more than the fact that he was thought to be a second- or third-round pick until recently, when he had a series of impressive outings against good competition: Houston on April 29 (complete game); Cincinnati on May 6 (7 shutout innings); Louisville on May 13 (complete game, 1 run); nationally ranked Tulane on May 20 (complete game shutout); Southern Miss in the Conference USA tournament on May 26 (six shutout innings); and in the NCAA tournament against Stanford on June 4 (complete game, 1 run). Sickels was predicting that Broadway would be chosen by the Astros with the 24th pick of the first round.

 

Boyd Nation, writing for Baseball Prospectus, called Broadway perhaps the best value among college pitchers in the draft. Nation, who runs the Boyd's World college baseball site, did have some concerns that Broadway ran up some high pitch count games -- four times throwing more than 120 pitches, including two times with more than 130 pitches.

I liked the pick more based on that streak he had. shouldn't the ability for a pitcher to turn it up as the season is winding down or rise to the level of his competition (as Broadway did) be something that scouts should take a serious look at?

 

case in point: El Duque shutting down Boston with the bases loaded and no outs.

Edited November 28, 2005 by AirScott

[LDF]

my bad, i was referring about what he did in the minors after the draft. did he step up, did he produce as the scouts thought he would, was he overpowered in the minors.

 

what i read about him is so what confusing.

[AirScott]

my bad, i was referring about what he did in the minors after the draft. did he step up, did he produce as the scouts thought he would, was he overpowered in the minors.

 

what i read about him is so what confusing.

if you're referring to Broadway, I was told they were skipping every other start for him so they don't blow out his arm, as he had just finished the college season. so he'd be on 10 days rest every start, plus the standard tinkering being done in the minors, he'd be somewhat off his game, so the high average against and ERA in single-A are misleading.

[elrockinMT]

I think the Thome trade will benefit the White Sox. Thome can still hit, if he ever lost that ability, but was injured last year. If you believe the stories about Thome being in the best shape of his career then we can expect 40 plus homer from Jim. His situation can be much like Dye's was last season. I am not real happy about giving up two pitching prospects along with A-Row, but i guess the exchange might have been all that money for the minor league pitchers and A-Row for Thome. I have been seeing the rationale behind trading prospects for players in a different light though. We win now and the other teams might have a good player develop, but don't win the pennant. I guess it's what you want to see with your team. I for one sure enjoyed winning last season.

[RockRaines]

my bad, i was referring about what he did in the minors after the draft. did he step up, did he produce as the scouts thought he would, was he overpowered in the minors.

 

what i read about him is so what confusing.

He actually pitched quite well considering it was his first time in the pro baseball world and he had just thrown a whole college season.