Punch and Judy Garland Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 i thinjk it depends who it is. Most people feel sad when they see a guy fail over and over again but most peopel don't like Mike Irvin. Right or wrong, that is where the satisfaction comes in. To be honest, I'd be lying if I said part of me wasn't hoping this would lead to him being off tv since I can't stand him. I know that sounds horrible but whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 Did anyone hear the Dan Patrick show yesterday with Michael Irvin? I found this quote on www.czabe.com Listening to him on the Dan Patrick Show was pretty comical on Monday. While he talked at length about all the foundations he has started to help kids overcome the addiction to drugs, he was pretty terse when replying to Patrick’s question about whether he’d take a drug test for his employers at ESPN voluntarily to put things behind him. Irvin’s take? “Um, I’ll get back to you on that, first I need to check the legality of it.” I thought that Irvin had agreed to take a test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 10:52 AM) Did anyone hear the Dan Patrick show yesterday with Michael Irvin? I found this quote on www.czabe.com I thought that Irvin had agreed to take a test? I'm sure he's been told not to talk about it at all. If so, declining any comment was the right thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 10:54 AM) I'm sure he's been told not to talk about it at all. If so, declining any comment was the right thing to do. That's a helluva good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) I'm sure he's been told not to talk about it at all. If so, declining any comment was the right thing to do. Excellent point. Although his advisors should have told him that "No comment" works way better than “Um, I’ll get back to you on that, first I need to check the legality of it.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 It might just be bud or papers. . Big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 12:06 PM) It might just be bud or papers. . Big deal. I think it has been confirmed to be a crack pipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 11:11 AM) I think it has been confirmed to be a crack pipe Marijuana pipe http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5119612 Former Cowboys' WR stands by his story Story Tools: Print Email Associated Press Posted: 2 hours ago DALLAS (AP) - Former Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Michael Irvin reiterated Monday that a marijuana pipe found in his car belonged to a longtime friend, not his brother — and denied any discrepancy between what he told reporters and police. Irvin told The Associated Press late Monday that a police officer apparently took his use of the word "brother" literally when he was arrested Friday after being pulled over for speeding. "It's my brother's, he left it in there," the officer quoted Irvin as saying in a court document obtained by The Dallas Morning News. Irvin, an ESPN analyst and semifinalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, told The Associated Press on Sunday that the pipe belonged to a friend of 17 years. He told the AP on Monday that he called his friend a "brother" because the two are so close. Irvin was arrested on an outstanding warrant for an unpaid speeding ticket in Irving, Texas, but was charged with misdemeanor possession of drug paraphernalia after police found the pipe. Before the documents surfaced, Irvin told the AP he took the pipe from a friend who showed up at his house on Thanksgiving, put it in his car and planned to dispose of it later but forgot. Irvin, who has a history of drug arrests, said Monday that police never asked him who put the pipe in his car, but he was careful not to accuse the officers of anything. "When I said 'That belongs to a brother of mine,' I guess he thought maybe he put it in," Irvin said. "I don't know. I certainly don't want any problems with the police." Plastic baggies with marijuana residue were found in a Versace sunglasses case along with the pipe. Irvin said he found the items on the friend after patting him down when he arrived at his house in Carrollton, Texas. Irvin appeared on ESPN's Monday Night Countdown, and ESPN spokesman Josh Krulewitz said the network expects Irvin to be on the air for his next assignment Sunday. "Michael has told us the same thing he has told the media. He has indicated he wants to confer with his advisers, and we will continue to have conversations with Michael," Krulewitz said. Irvin also said "I'm going to do whatever I need to do" to clear his name. Irvin said he would talk to his lawyer Tuesday about possibly taking a drug test. Since the story broke Sunday, Irvin said his friend has volunteered to come forward, including disclosing records from a Houston treatment center and cell phone messages between the two. But Irvin said he told his friend that wasn't necessary, adding that he's not sure it would do much good. "They're going to think I put him up to it, anyway," Irvin said. In 1996, Irvin pleaded no contest to felony cocaine possession in exchange for four years of deferred probation, a $10,000 fine and dismissal of misdemeanor marijuana possession charges. He also was arrested on drug possession charges in 2000, but they were later dropped. According to the new documents, Irvin was driving with his wife in the car Friday afternoon when he was pulled over for going 78 mph in a 60 mph zone. Irvin was released after paying a $335 fine for the arrest warrant and a $256 bond. The paraphernalia charge is a Class C misdemeanor, punishable by up to a $500 fine. Irvin said Monday he "certainly understands" people who might permanently doubt him after his latest brush with the law. Given his history, Irvin said he's felt like he's had two strikes against him since turning his life around. "This is a strike, no doubt," Irvin said. But he said that he thinks people with alcoholics or drug issues in their families might understand what he calls a "generational curse." Irvin said his siblings have suffered with drug addictions,too. Irvin won three Super Bowls in four years with the Dallas Cowboys as part of an offense that also featured Troy Aikman and Emmitt Smith. A vocal, emotional leader, he set every significant career receiving mark in team history before retiring because of an injury suffered in 1999. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 11:04 AM) Excellent point. Although his advisors should have told him that "No comment" works way better than “Um, I’ll get back to you on that, first I need to check the legality of it.” Last time I checked, its perfectly legal for Irvin to take a drug test. What kind of legal issue is he checking on? This is a guy who was caught with the pipe on him. Maybe it isn't is, but his story would make anyone wonder. If he really wanted to clear his name, taking a test immediately probably would be the best thing to do, unless he just wants a few days to flush his system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 12:53 AM) Leon Lett anyone? "Yah, it was Leon's." (Nate Newton sneeks out the back door) Edited November 29, 2005 by KevHead0881 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 12:15 PM) Last time I checked, its perfectly legal for Irvin to take a drug test. What kind of legal issue is he checking on? This is a guy who was caught with the pipe on him. Maybe it isn't is, but his story would make anyone wonder. If he really wanted to clear his name, taking a test immediately probably would be the best thing to do, unless he just wants a few days to flush his system. Presumably there could be a risk of him being charged with something along the lines of obstruction of justice if he insists he did nothing, possibly testifies as to that point, and then takes a drug test which proves the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 04:36 PM) Presumably there could be a risk of him being charged with something along the lines of obstruction of justice if he insists he did nothing, possibly testifies as to that point, and then takes a drug test which proves the opposite. like if he has a ton of poppy seeds. I know for a fact that there are ways to get rid of any trace of drugs in your system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 04:36 PM) Presumably there could be a risk of him being charged with something along the lines of obstruction of justice if he insists he did nothing, possibly testifies as to that point, and then takes a drug test which proves the opposite. If he's as clean as he says he would have nothing to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 04:41 PM) If he's as clean as he says he would have nothing to worry about. Regardless of guilt or innocence at this point, it would be stupid for him to comment at all. That was the point of the question.. not whether it was legal or not for him to take the test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 04:43 PM) Regardless of guilt or innocence at this point, it would be stupid for him to comment at all. That was the point of the question.. not whether it was legal or not for him to take the test. Spoken like a guilty party, or a lawyer. Either way, makes you [irvin] look bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 29, 2005 -> 07:05 PM) Spoken like a guilty party, or a lawyer. Either way, makes you [irvin] look bad. Victims, as well as offenders, are often told not to comment when a case is pending. Common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I love seeing the word victim being associated with Michael Irvin. Funniest thing I've read all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 03:55 PM) I love seeing the word victim being associated with Michael Irvin. Funniest thing I've read all day. ASSume much..? He is the offender in this case. Common sense.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 06:52 PM) ASSume much..? He is the offender in this case. Common sense.. That phrase needs to be used more. My freshman teacher taught that to me. to Assume means it makes u and me an ASS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 Interesting turn of events. ESPN decides to punish later rather than sooner..... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2243998 Michael Irvin will not make his scheduled appearances on the Sunday and Monday Night NFL Countdown shows on Dec. 4 and 5, ESPN announced Thursday. The former Cowboys wide receiver, who is in his third year as an analyst for the network, will resume his regular role on Sunday, Dec. 11. Irvin was stopped for speeding on Friday, Nov. 25, in Plano, Texas, and arrested on an outstanding warrant for a previous speeding violation. His car was searched, revealing a pipe and plastic bags with marijuana residue. He was then charged with possession of drug paraphernalia. He was taken into custody by the Plano police, and released later that evening. ESPN first learned of the arrest on Sunday, Nov. 27. "I understand I was wrong for not divulging the information on Friday," Irvin said today. "I accept ESPN's decision and look forward to return to my teammates next week." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 02:45 PM) Interesting turn of events. ESPN decides to punish later rather than sooner..... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2243998 don't mean anything to me. That is pretty normal. ESPN should do this no matter who did it who is employed for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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