Who said the economy sucks?

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177126,00.html

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177006,00.html

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177075,00.html

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177004,00.html

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176985,00.html

[Wong & Owens]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177126,00.html

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177006,00.html

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177075,00.html

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177004,00.html

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176985,00.html

 

Nuke, I'm just guessing here, but I think that anyone who has a different opinion than you regarding the current administration and its effects would point to those links and say, "well, it's Fox News, of course it will say things like that."

 

I mean, if someone trying to take the other side posted only transcripts from an interview on Air America, would you think it was an objective piece of evidence?

[sec159row2]

the truth doesn't sell newspapers... dirt does... just look at marriotti...

[southsider2k5]

Nuke, I'm just guessing here, but I think that anyone who has a different opinion than you regarding the current administration and its effects would point to those links and say, "well, it's Fox News, of course it will say things like that." 

 

I mean, if someone trying to take the other side posted only transcripts from an interview on Air America, would you think it was an objective piece of evidence?

 

How about Cnn/money

 

http://money.cnn.com/2005/11/30/news/econo...dex.htm?cnn=yes

 

Newsday

 

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzecon3...iness-headlines

 

Bloomberg

 

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1...G8Vo&refer=home

 

And even a Canadian news article...

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Art...s/International

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1...G8Vo&refer=home

[Soxy]

How about Cnn/money

 

http://money.cnn.com/2005/11/30/news/econo...dex.htm?cnn=yes

 

Newsday

 

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzecon3...iness-headlines

 

Bloomberg

 

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1...G8Vo&refer=home

 

And even a Canadian news article...

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Art...s/International

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1...G8Vo&refer=home

I don't think he was saying the economy is bad--I think he was saying that not all sources are equal. And, to be fair, I think that's a really good point.

[southsider2k5]

I don't think he was saying the economy is bad--I think he was saying that not all sources are equal. And, to be fair, I think that's a really good point.

 

I'd buy that. I am a big believer in trusting a source, and that's why I offered more than just Fox News for him to check out. Bloomberg is the most reliable financial news source that I know of, and that was why I picked it amongst the others.

[Balta1701]

All I can add to this is that my personal economy has improved dramatically of late...fiance finally got a job 2 months ago that pays well, and finally got her health insurance card 2 days ago, so she can finally afford to make that doctor's appointment she's desperately needed for like a year now but couldn't afford.

[Balta1701]

Nuke, I'm just guessing here, but I think that anyone who has a different opinion than you regarding the current administration and its effects would point to those links and say, "well, it's Fox News, of course it will say things like that." 

I dislike Fox News as much as anyone, but dude, seriously, go look at the pages Nuke referenced...4 out of the 5 are direct newswire stories from Reuters, and the 5th says at the bottom "Reuters contributed to this report".

 

That stuff is actually hard news - it's a wire service story reporting actual numbers. Doesn't matter if it comes from Fox or the World Socialist Web Site....if it's a wire service story then it's a wire service story.

 

If you have a problem with Reuters for some reason let me know.

[Wong & Owens]

I dislike Fox News as much as anyone, but dude, seriously, go look at the pages Nuke referenced...4 out of the 5 are direct newswire stories from Reuters, and the 5th says at the bottom "Reuters contributed to this report".

 

That stuff is actually hard news - it's a wire service story reporting actual numbers.  Doesn't matter if it comes from Fox or the World Socialist Web Site....if it's a wire service story then it's a wire service story.

 

If you have a problem with Reuters for some reason let me know.

 

That's a good point, I didn't notice that.

 

And yes, I wasn't saying the economy is good or bad, I was just saying that using a clearly biased source as "proof" of a position isn't usually a good plan.

 

Personally, I'm pretty confident that the economy is both good AND bad. Good if you're an upper-middle class or upper-crust type, bad if you're a blue-collar worker or someone in the lower middle-class. And I don't blame any level of gov't, though I do think that there are way too many easy ways for the fat to get fatter. The simple answer is supply and demand. Manufacturing workers are getting screwed, simply because the country doesn't need them as much anymore, whereas Internet Consultants, for example, are in demand, even though their job didn't even exist 10 years ago.