redandwhite Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 03:30 PM) And given that the Angels still need a bat, I'd say "Until" is actually the correct word now. They'll find a way to get that done. And then Thome/Konerko will have to compete with Vlad the Impaler/Manny. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> eh... konerko is an average hitter at best outside of us cellular field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Some nice quotes from Paulie's Conference call: Speaking in terms of the Jim Thome trade: "This is the greatest move the White Sox can make to bring me back" "Jim Thome is.. you know.. I don't have many heroes, he is one of them as far as guys I look up to and have looked up to since I been in the big leagues" He is.... if you are a 1B if you came into the league in the last 10 years, Jim Thome is who you want to be like, so that is the best thing in my mind that the Sox did as a recruiting tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I just had a vision .. a dream really. Is our new CFer going to be Ichiro? Think about. The White Sox have never been at a stronger position to trade then now. Ichiro has already expressed misgivings about Seattle. He is not bigger than the Seattle M's. Figuratively speaking the park is bigger than Ichiro. I'm just throwing that out there because I really think the sky is the limit right now for filling that hole. The gate revenue has picked up, the luxury boxes are sold out, the new Comcast deal is expected to deliver their best broadcast revenue to date, & inventory can't keep up with demand on merchandise. All of it speaks volumes of a mid-revenue team in big-revenue market about to make that leap forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 What a glorious day!!!!! ... now who replaces Geoff Blum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(Steve Bartman's my idol @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 02:30 PM) I think I'd bat Dye in the #3 spot , Thome 4th, Konerko 5...(R-L-R) I want Konerko's OBP before Thome comes up, and I want 1 of them coming up in the first inning, such that even if there's 2 outs, we can still pull off the "Walk, boom, 2 run lead". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(redandwhite @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 02:47 PM) eh... konerko is an average hitter at best outside of us cellular field. Last year he still put up 17 home runs and an .863 OPS outside of the Cell (and that's not counting the fact that he hit 3 postseason home runs on the road), so he's a better hitter at the Cell, but last year he was still pretty darn deadly on the road. 52 RBI at Home, 48 away for PK too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 03:03 PM) I just had a vision .. a dream really. Is our new CFer going to be Ichiro? While I want BA in CF next year myself for the defense and occasional power, I'd sacrifice that for Ichiro. That said, I can't see that happening for several reasons; 1. Seattle doesn't want to trade Ichiro - they make a ton just from having him on their team from the Japanese fans (same Reason Matsui is making PK Money in NY). Secondly, Ichiro has never been willing to switch to CF in Seattle, which is why he's still playing RF despite the fact he'd be their best defensive center fielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Safeco's CF is huge! Much more ground to cover than the Cell. I don't think that would be a factor. Seattle will make more money with a competitve team than it will with Ichiro on a loser. The White Sox can give them a package with El Duque, & young talent that can help fill out their rotation & OFers that are ready to start. I'm not saying it will happen but the cards KW has to deal with & the expected revenue of the team make it well within the realm of capability. I'm still guessing it will be Pierre filling that hole primarily because he & Ozzie were close on that championship 2003 Marlin's team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 (edited) Thome is flyball hitter and therefore should bat behind Konerko thus reducing the DP opportunities. Edited November 30, 2005 by Jenks Heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Thome is flyball hitter and therefore should bat behind Konerko thus reducing the DP opportunities. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree. Either Dye-Kong-Thome or Kong-Thome-Dye. Thome either it's in the air or a line-drive somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 05:35 PM) Thome is flyball hitter and therefore should bat behind Konerko thus reducing the DP opportunities. Kareer OBP Thome -- .408 Kong -- .349 I don't Kare where he hits it, Thome should always be in front of Konerko... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Holy s***....just got home and heard the news on Chicago Tribune Live and I exploded into glee. Holy s***. KW is THE man! Thome is the man! PK is THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I damn near cryed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Holy s***....just got home and heard the news on Chicago Tribune Live and I exploded into glee. Holy s***. KW is THE man! Thome is the man! PK is THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I damn near cryed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I think it would be best to ignore Pierre's 2005 Marlins numbers. One thing we've learned since the Cell became one of the best hitter's parks in the majors is that nearly everybody that comes here hits better. There were a lot of ??? about Pods coming off a lack luster 2004 & he experienced borderline all-star caliber numbers. So it's best for established guys to look at their career numbers when they come to the White Sox. Juan Pierre: (v L: 808AB, 307A, 352O, 347S; v R:2603, 304A, 355O, 384S) You have to believe Ozzie had him in mind when he made that annoucement. He said he wants to both take the pressure off Pods (another SB threat) & give Iguchi more opportunities to hit (#6). With the Marlins in firesale mode this seems like a sure bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 For sake of argument let's imagine #1 Pods, #2 Pierre. The best #3 is the guy who has the best RON #'s: Kong (.279A, .352O, .475S, .827 OPS) Thom(.278A, .412O, .537S, .950 OPS) JDye (.270A, .339O, .446S, .785 OPS) Again look at career #'s when it comes to the Cell. If Thome has a strong ST he should be the #3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 03:39 PM) Kareer OBP Thome -- .408 Kong -- .349 I don't Kare where he hits it, Thome should always be in front of Konerko... Well, PK's OBP last year = .375, although that was the best of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:03 PM) I just had a vision .. a dream really. Is our new CFer going to be Ichiro? Think about. The White Sox have never been at a stronger position to trade then now. Ichiro has already expressed misgivings about Seattle. He is not bigger than the Seattle M's. Figuratively speaking the park is bigger than Ichiro. I'm just throwing that out there because I really think the sky is the limit right now for filling that hole. The gate revenue has picked up, the luxury boxes are sold out, the new Comcast deal is expected to deliver their best broadcast revenue to date, & inventory can't keep up with demand on merchandise. All of it speaks volumes of a mid-revenue team in big-revenue market about to make that leap forward. Isn't Seattles ownership Japanese? No way in hell do they deal Ichiro. But its a good dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 06:02 PM) Well, PK's OBP last year = .375, although that was the best of his career. and I will admit that it's the one area of the game that Pauly is likely to improve on for the duration of his contract. strike zone judgement is the one area that older players seem to hold onto longer (often even improving later) than their other skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 (edited) For sake of argument let's imagine #1 Pods, #2 Pierre. The best #3 is the guy who has the best RON #'s: Kong (.279A, .352O, .475S, .827 OPS) Thom(.278A, .412O, .537S, .950 OPS) JDye (.270A, .339O, .446S, .785 OPS) Again look at career #'s when it comes to the Cell. If Thome has a strong ST he should be the #3. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's as strong a 3-4-5 as there is. A projected 110 HR's !!! Add in 20 from Crede, 20 from Iguchi, 18 from AJ, 16 from Uribe = 184 HR's !!! Pierre won't hit HR's but something needs to be said about his 48T's in 3411AB's. Edited December 1, 2005 by JUGGERNAUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:43 PM) I think it would be best to ignore Pierre's 2005 Marlins numbers. One thing we've learned since the Cell became one of the best hitter's parks in the majors is that nearly everybody that comes here hits better. There were a lot of ??? about Pods coming off a lack luster 2004 & he experienced borderline all-star caliber numbers. So it's best for established guys to look at their career numbers when they come to the White Sox. Juan Pierre: (v L: 808AB, 307A, 352O, 347S; v R:2603, 304A, 355O, 384S) You have to believe Ozzie had him in mind when he made that annoucement. He said he wants to both take the pressure off Pods (another SB threat) & give Iguchi more opportunities to hit (#6). With the Marlins in firesale mode this seems like a sure bet. Don't see the Pierre thing happening either. Pods and Pierre sounds good ( love the alliteration) but hate the D and lack of arm strength. Gotta keep the pitchers happy and keep the defensivemindedness intact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickness212 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I just saw this, and it made my Day!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 QUOTE(sickness212 @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 04:06 PM) I just saw this, and it made my Day!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickness212 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Haha, I'm soo ready for the next season now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I haven't seen enough of his play to judge his defense. He seemed a major plus in the championship run out there in 2003. Here's what the ESPN scouts say: His defense remains a huge plus at spacious Pro Player Stadium. His range allowed the Marlins to get by with Miguel Cabrera and Jeff Conine flanking him for the first four months. Pierre's arm probably precludes him from Gold Glove consideration, but he never gives up on balls in the gap and makes his share of highlight catches. His resemblance to a young Mickey Rivers remains eerie. No one is a better judge in the White Sox organization right now when it comes to his defense than Ozzie because he's seen him play day to day. Ozzie has said nothing but good things when it comes to Juan's defense & that goes back to 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBatterz Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Great News for Big Paulie and the Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.