Heads22 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 This thread's turned into one big pissing contest. I was pretty sure this thread was to thank Frank.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 The best Sox player of my lifetime and my favorite. Good luck, perhaps the next time we see you in a Sox jersey it will be going into the Hall of Fame. One of the best ever, its a shame he was injured last year and could not really play in the World Series. Of all the Sox players he deserved to be there. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 12:44 PM) I doubt Kenny made any real effort to try to call Frank and work something out. He was probably counting down the days till he could get rid of Frank. I know this has been said in this thread but it just pisses me off. I would be interested to see Reinsdorf's reaction to the Frank situation. Give me a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 12:28 PM) I think it is way too early to be singing the swan song. So no matter how we fans want to spin it Thome is a rehabing player coming off major surgery. That is not a sure thing. As for Kong he did not receive a clean bill of health either. A degenerative hip disorder is a significant risk. I would say no less significant than Crede's back disorder. The general consensus with Thomas is that he came back to soon. So we can assume I think that he is going to take more time for the bone to heal this time around. That suggests to me the earliest he would be able to play for any team is after the all-star break. Adding a healthy Thomas to the bench for the 2nd half would act like a mid-season trade. So having Thomas as insurance for the 2nd half is a smart move for the White Sox to make. As long as KW doesn't say anything to offend Frank I think it's in the cards. You are off on a couple of assumptions. 1. Thome had a routine surgery which pitchers return from. A DH will have absolutely no problems returning from this. 2. A degenerative hip is potentially far worse than Crede's back. It will end his career. There is no definite time table but when his career ends it will be due to the hip. That's why the 5 year deal is a stretch. 3. Thomas will not be healthy, I've stated why many times. Do not count on Thomas being healthy. Now, if you want a DH who cannot run to play for a short period of time it may work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 01:33 PM) Give me a break. no. It's obvious Kenny hates Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 04:02 PM) no. It's obvious Kenny hates Frank. But to imply the things you have is quite ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 04:02 PM) no. It's obvious Kenny hates Frank. :headshake I'll tell you what is obvious... (and you can take it from there) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 thanks to the greatest player to don a sox jersey. hope you're back with us next season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 QUOTE(Goldmember @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 05:25 PM) thanks to the greatest player to don a sox jersey. hope you're back with us next season... i couldn't of said it better myself. BTW is that the lead singer from Evanescence in you avatar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 06:26 PM) i couldn't of said it better myself. BTW is that the lead singer from Evanescence in you avatar? yup, amy lee... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 QUOTE(Goldmember @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 11:06 PM) yup, amy lee... she is very hot and a very good singer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 04:02 PM) no. It's obvious Kenny hates Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 You are off on a couple of assumptions. 1. Thome had a routine surgery which pitchers return from. A DH will have absolutely no problems returning from this. 2. A degenerative hip is potentially far worse than Crede's back. It will end his career. There is no definite time table but when his career ends it will be due to the hip. That's why the 5 year deal is a stretch. 3. Thomas will not be healthy, I've stated why many times. Do not count on Thomas being healthy. Now, if you want a DH who cannot run to play for a short period of time it may work. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 1. Still you can't deny Thome has not been in this sit before. There's still a risk. 2. I know that can happen. I think that's what happen to Belle. But before it gets that bad in will definitely reduce his quality of play. 3. You left out PH/DH. It's his role as a PH that intrigues me the most. If you are correct in stating he won't be healthy then why would any other team take the chance? Shouldn't the White Sox offer him a reasonable deal now that will allow him to rehab at Charlotte to drive ticket sales down there? Won't other teams try to do the same? It seems to me for his years of production offering him a $1M base + incentives with the possibility he might be able to play a PH/DH role in the 2nd half is a smart move. I'm still envisioning Pierre in CF & Ozzie using him at lead-off when he rests Pods. That's a perfect scenario to use Thomas as a PH late in the game & then replace Pierre with Pods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 12:49 AM) 1. Still you can't deny Thome has not been in this sit before. There's still a risk. 2. I know that can happen. I think that's what happen to Belle. But before it gets that bad in will definitely reduce his quality of play. 3. You left out PH/DH. It's his role as a PH that intrigues me the most. If you are correct in stating he won't be healthy then why would any other team take the chance? Shouldn't the White Sox offer him a reasonable deal now that will allow him to rehab at Charlotte to drive ticket sales down there? Won't other teams try to do the same? It seems to me for his years of production offering him a $1M base + incentives with the possibility he might be able to play a PH/DH role in the 2nd half is a smart move. I'm still envisioning Pierre in CF & Ozzie using him at lead-off when he rests Pods. That's a perfect scenario to use Thomas as a PH late in the game & then replace Pierre with Pods. I don't think he would come back to PH. I think he'll get a better offer to DH elsewhere. The Sox have no room for an extra DH while many other teams can offer him for time for DH. I would love for him to come back in the role you stated, I just don't think it will happen. Edited December 4, 2005 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 To see Frank leave almost makes me as sad as when Harold was traded to the Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 It will really suck if he plays for Minn. and is healthy and we have to face him 80 at bats a season. Geez that will suck. Thanks for the memories Frank, including this past season. No question you sparked the club a lot when you were in there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Kenny & Ozzie are saying all the right things. I feel they talked about a reduced role with his agent but Frank isn't happy with that. Hopefully he has no hard feelings. I'm sure the White Sox let it be known to him & his agent they would love to keep him but can't offer him a starting role. Frank's never been a bench player & when he knows he can start for a contender there's no way he would accept that role. I hope it's the O's. I would love to read about him beating up on Bos & Ny. I pray it's not the ALC. I can't bear that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 We'll go ahead and pin this topic as it looks like the Day of Reconning is upon us... And please have respect for those to whom Frank Thomas is the reason some people became White Sox fans, please don't let the thread deteriorate to crap again. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 (edited) Edited December 7, 2005 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 7, 2005 Author Share Posted December 7, 2005 We know there's no way he'll ever be playing for the Sox again. Retire his number and start building that statue for the park ASAP. I can't think of a good reason not to, we did it early with Baines. Frank is just as, if not more deserving of the honor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilmot825 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Frank, thanx for everything and good luck to whereever you may go. You will always remain a True White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin57 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Frank Thomas, You were there for us through some highs and more than a few lows. You leave on the highest note of all, with a World Championship Ring. May that excitement never leave your heart. May Sox fans never place you out of ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Thanks Frank for all the great memories. Maybe he can sign with the Sox in 2008 when he is near 500 Home Run. Best Right Handed Hitter I ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Thanks FT......injuries robbed you of some of the best numbers ever by a RH batter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bias Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Dear Mr. Hurt, Thank you for all the wonderful memories and for being one of the best hitters I've ever seen. May you be blessed with health but not beat up on the Sox (too much) when you play against them. Good luck Frank! WAR 35! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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