jphat007 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 02:51 PM) Castillo is a better player than Graffanino overall, and would still be the better 2-hole hitter. Castillo is a better player than Graffanino overall, and would still be the better 2-hole hitter unless its on a team like the Twins who need more pop. Is that easier to follow? I copied your whole sentence for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 02:51 PM) Castillo is a better player than Graffanino overall, and would still be the better 2-hole hitter. He will put up much higher OBP's over the years than Graffanino will ever be able to dream of, unless he manages to repeat on his career year last season. I don't know what to say to you if you think you can compare Tony's PH and utility OBP to Castillo's everyday OBP. It's like apple and oranges. I can't believe you really think that. Hurry hurry hurry. I gotta go. Edited December 2, 2005 by jphat007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) Castillo is a better player than Graffanino overall, and would still be the better 2-hole hitter unless its on a team like the Twins who need more pop. Is that easier to follow? I copied your whole sentence for you. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It all depends on who the Twins sign to DH. They will get some power there. And when did Graffanino become a guy with a lot of pop in his bat? In 379 AB's last season, Graffanino hit 7 homeruns. In 439 AB's last season, Castillo hit 4 homeruns. It's really not that big of a difference. Give me Castillo's much better OBP over Graffanino's few extra homers, especially if you are comparing them both as #2 hitters. Edited December 2, 2005 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 02:56 PM) It all depends on who the Twins sign to DH. They will get some power there. And when did Graffanino become a guy with a lot of pop in his bat? In 379 AB's last season, Graffanino hit 7 homeruns. In 439 AB's last season, Castillo hit 4 homeruns. It's really not that big of a difference. I disagree. we'll see I suppose. It was fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 From the Marlins Board... C - Bugs Bunny 1B - Jacobs 2B - Bugs Bunny SS - Ramirez 3B - Cabrera LF - Willingham CF - Bugs Bunny RF - Hermida SP - Willis SP - Vargas SP - Olsen SP - Johnson SP -Bugs Bunny CL - Bowyer SU - Messenger MR - Resop MR - Bump :headshake :headshake :headshake :headshake <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Lets just say this: The Twins should be better next year with Castillo aboard. How much better remains to be seen. All I know for sure is that from a Sox fans perspective, I'd rather they didn't get Castillo. We're still going to kick their ass though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 They still have the most dominant pitcher in the game, and we hit him the way the Lovely Ladies hit against the American Dreams, not much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 04:09 PM) They still have the most dominant pitcher in the game, and we hit him the way the Lovely Ladies hit against the American Dreams, not much Joe Mays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 09:09 PM) They still have the most dominant pitcher in the game, and we hit him the way the Lovely Ladies hit against the American Dreams, not much Tremendous reference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timotime Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 s***. castillo is one of those players who you love when they are on your team and annoys the s*** out of you when he's against you. he's going to annoy me a lot this year with slap base hits and good feilding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchwarmerjim Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 QUOTE(drowninginflame @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 03:30 PM) Imagine how the twins fans felt when we got paulie back and signed thome. I didnt like it when the Sox got both of them Bowyer is a flamethrower. But the Twins bullpen is pretty much set Rivas SUCKED and anybody is an improvement Punto isnt that bad, he is just not an everyday player all in all, I liked this move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 So Juan Pierre is basically gone now. Lo Duca going to be switching jerseys as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I think Lo Duca could be gone but you gott afigure his fate is tied to Molina and Hernandez with what teams like the Mets decide to do at catcher. Maybe he goes back to the Dodgers with their new management? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 I think Lo Duca will probably end up in Arizona, since the Dodgers are really under budget constraints right now. Of course, when you've got catchers on the markets like Molina, Hernandez and Ausmus still, you probably won't see a move there for a while. But this is a really good trade for the Twins, for the obvious reasons, when you look at Luis Rivas who they've had for the past few seasons and Nick Punto and compare them with Luis Castillo. Plus they didn't have to give up one of their good bullpen arms either, although Bowyer could definitely be Florida's closer in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Ahh D-Backs. Good call. Makes a lot of sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 QUOTE(Benchwarmerjim @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 03:52 PM) I didnt like it when the Sox got both of them Bowyer is a flamethrower. But the Twins bullpen is pretty much set Rivas SUCKED and anybody is an improvement Punto isnt that bad, he is just not an everyday player all in all, I liked this move Great move for the Twins, Castillo would have been nice with the SOX but of course Iguchi is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 QUOTE(3E8 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 02:09 PM) Rebuilding is kind of exciting in a way if you do it wisely. Just my opinion. ^^^^^^^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Osuna Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 I congratulate the Twins on their 2006 Division crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 QUOTE(Antonio Osuna @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 09:15 PM) I congratulate the Twins on their 2006 Division crown. He's baaaack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 I congratulate the Twins on their 2006 Division crown. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I hope this is a joke. Luis Castillo is great and all but he won't turn the Twins from a third place team into a division winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 QUOTE(Antonio Osuna @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 10:15 PM) I congratulate the Twins on their 2006 Division crown. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> OMFG. You are so god damn ridiculous homefish. I honestly can't tell if you are being sarcastic because you were prediciting doom and gloom for the Sox back in August while they were taking 2 of 3 from your beloved Twins. :headshake So do the Twins have any more money left to spend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Osuna Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 If there was a color halfway between green and black, I'd use it. I mean, this is a guy that plays Twins baseball, and we all know how hard that spanked us from 2001 - 2004. This is still a team that has Johan Santana, a bunch of no-names who turn into superstars against us, and, of course, their dreaded minor league system, which will invariably produce a new generation of Sox killers as it does every damn season. Hopefully we luck out again and they get injured or come off to a bad start, but never, ever count out the Twins. The Indians might be the media darlings, but the Twins are still the team that gives me nightmares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 QUOTE(Antonio Osuna @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 09:24 PM) If there was a color halfway between green and black, I'd use it. I mean, this is a guy that plays Twins baseball, and we all know how hard that spanked us from 2001 - 2004. This is still a team that has Johan Santana, a bunch of no-names who turn into superstars against us, and, of course, their dreaded minor league system, which will invariably produce a new generation of Sox killers as it does every damn season. Hopefully we luck out again and they get injured or come off to a bad start, but never, ever count out the Twins. The Indians might be the media darlings, but the Twins are still the team that gives me nightmares. They're a machine, right? One of your famous posts from the beginning of last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 If there was a color halfway between green and black, I'd use it. I mean, this is a guy that plays Twins baseball, and we all know how hard that spanked us from 2001 - 2004. This is still a team that has Johan Santana, a bunch of no-names who turn into superstars against us, and, of course, their dreaded minor league system, which will invariably produce a new generation of Sox killers as it does every damn season. Hopefully we luck out again and they get injured or come off to a bad start, but never, ever count out the Twins. The Indians might be the media darlings, but the Twins are still the team that gives me nightmares. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Luck? :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 QUOTE(Antonio Osuna @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 09:24 PM) If there was a color halfway between green and black, I'd use it. I mean, this is a guy that plays Twins baseball, and we all know how hard that spanked us from 2001 - 2004. This is still a team that has Johan Santana, a bunch of no-names who turn into superstars against us, and, of course, their dreaded minor league system, which will invariably produce a new generation of Sox killers as it does every damn season. Hopefully we luck out again and they get injured or come off to a bad start, but never, ever count out the Twins. The Indians might be the media darlings, but the Twins are still the team that gives me nightmares. When Morneau figures out how to hit like a major leaguer and not like a reincarnation of Joe Borchard then give us a jingle on their chances. Over/Under on number of times Mauer is on the DL with his knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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