White Sox Josh Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 f*** THIS s***! Florida headed to the Outback Bowl Florida fans won't have far to travel for the Gators' bowl game. Sources have confirmed to The Sun that Florida will play Iowa in the Outback Bowl in Tampa on Jan. 2. LSU's loss to Georgia Saturday night complicated the bowl situation, but the Outback committee decided on Sunday afternoon that Florida would be the best fit for the bowl game. Auburn was selected by the Capital One, Alabama by the Cotton and LSU will be playing in the Peach Bowl against Georgia Tech. South Carolina will be playing in the Independence Bowl against Missouri. Ironically. South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier quarterbacked Florida in a 20-18 loss to Missouri in the Sugar Bowl following his junior season. Didn't Michigan beat Iowa at Iowa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEWOOD Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:33 PM) f*** THIS s***!Didn't Michigan beat Iowa at Iowa! Josh....Big Ten 3 goes to the outback....Michigan is going to the Cap One...whats the problem?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(THEWOOD @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:35 PM) Josh....Big Ten 3 goes to the outback....Michigan is going to the Cap One...whats the problem?? Wisconsin will be going to the Capital One Bowl. They don't go by the standings when they pick games like the Capital One Bowl and the Outback Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:28 PM) Still funny ass s*** that ND gets in over Oregon when they are lower in the BCS rankings. I mean it is a BCS bowl they are going to afterall. What about the funny ass s*** that WVU and FSU made it? If you're going to b**** about Oregon not getting in, you have to mention those teams. When OSU got the #4 automatic berth, ND got an automatic berth. There were no "at-large" bids this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:33 PM) f*** THIS s***!Didn't Michigan beat Iowa at Iowa! Go Hawks! Even a down year and Ferentz has his boys playing a major bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:43 PM) Go Hawks! Even a down year and Ferentz has his boys playing a major bowl. they don't even deserve to go. They have no place in a Major Bowl Game. I am sorry but that is the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilsox7 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:46 PM) they don't even deserve to go. They have no place in a Major Bowl Game. I am sorry but that is the truth. Iowa was just about 1 notch below UM. And that comes from a Michigan fan. Edited December 4, 2005 by ilsox7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(ilsox7 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:47 PM) Iowa was just about 1 notch below UM. And that comes from a Michigan fan. Iowa lost to Michigan. Michigan beat Iowa at Iowa. That put a stop to Iowa's win streak at home. Look Michigan shouldn't be in this position because they didn't play well this season however they were much better than Iowa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:28 PM) Still funny ass s*** that ND gets in over Oregon when they are lower in the BCS rankings. I mean it is a BCS bowl they are going to afterall. Read the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev76 Posted December 4, 2005 Author Share Posted December 4, 2005 Notre Dame and Ohio State should be a great game and will get more publicity than if it was Oregon Ohio state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilsox7 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:55 PM) Iowa lost to Michigan. Michigan beat Iowa at Iowa. That put a stop to Iowa's win streak at home. Look Michigan shouldn't be in this position because they didn't play well this season however they were much better than Iowa. They were not much better than Iowa. Slightly better, yes. Much better, no. Then again, maybe in your world 3 points and the same exact record is much better. Don't go around flaunting Michigan as some supreme team that just played poorly this year. We were a slightly above average team. Deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:55 PM) Read the rules. I know what the rules say. That's exactly what I'm debating. Oh well, this has been beat to death, and it's useless to argue any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(ilsox7 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:57 PM) They were not much better than Iowa. Slightly better, yes. Much better, no. Then again, maybe in your world 3 points and the same exact record is much better. Don't go around flaunting Michigan as some supreme team that just played poorly this year. We were a slightly above average team. Deal with it. Michigan didn't play well. However they were better than Iowa. They also didn't have Mike Hart for that game. Michigan doesn't deserve to go to a BCS game. I am not building them up as some supreme football team. However with the criteria that goes into picking the bowl games Michigan deserves to go over Iowa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilsox7 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:59 PM) Michigan didn't play well. However they were better than Iowa. They also didn't have Mike Hart for that game. Michigan doesn't deserve to go to a BCS game. I am not building them up as some supreme football team. However with the criteria that goes into picking the bowl games Michigan deserves to go over Iowa. You said Michigan was "much better" than Iowa. They are not much better. Slightly better is accurate. And who really cares when it comes down to the Outback Bowl and the Alamo Bowl. In fact, Michigan deserves the shaft for the way they played most of the year. The team should not rest on the shoulders of one guy, which it pretty much did this year. And if you have not figured it out yet, college football is one big clusterf***. Edited December 4, 2005 by ilsox7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(ilsox7 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:04 PM) You said Michigan was "much better" than Iowa. They are not much better. Slightly better is accurate. And who really cares when it comes down to the Outback Bowl and the Alamo Bowl. In fact, Michigan deserves the shaft for the way they played most of the year. The team should not rest on the shoulders of one guy, which it pretty much did this year. And if you have not figured it out yet, college football is one big clusterf***. look at strength of schedule. Look at the fact that Michigan travels much better than Iowa. A lot of that is what is selected for going into these games. And the Outback Bowl is still a pretty good bowl game to get into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilsox7 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:09 PM) look at strength of schedule. Look at the fact that Michigan travels much better than Iowa. A lot of that is what is selected for going into these games. And the Outback Bowl is still a pretty good bowl game to get into. Actually, Iowa probably travels just as well or better than Michigan. Especially when it comes to these crappy bowls. Michigan fans want to go to the Rose Bowl or a National Championship game. Most won't spend the time and money to go to Florida or Texas for a meaningless game. With Iowa's recent resurrection, their fans go just about anywhere. And, as I already said, Michigan is slightly better than Iowa. Not "much better." You can look at strength of schedule and all of that crap. Both teams had the SAME record. When they played each other, Michigan won a CLOSE game by 3 points. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(ilsox7 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:13 PM) Actually, Iowa probably travels just as well or better than Michigan. Especially when it comes to these crappy bowls. Michigan fans want to go to the Rose Bowl or a National Championship game. Most won't spend the time and money to go to Florida or Texas for a meaningless game. With Iowa's recent resurrection, their fans go just about anywhere. And, as I already said, Michigan is slightly better than Iowa. Not "much better." You can look at strength of schedule and all of that crap. Both teams had the SAME record. When they played each other, Michigan won a CLOSE game by 3 points. It is what it is. i went to the Capital One Bowl against Auburn in 2001. 85% of the Stadium was Michigan. They also got a ton of Michigan fans against Florida in 2003 for the Outback Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 The Alamo Bowl was targeting Michigan all the way. It will be against Nebraksa because they wanted the history of the matchup. 97 Split Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilsox7 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:15 PM) i went to the Capital One Bowl against Auburn in 2001. 85% of the Stadium was Michigan. They also got a ton of Michigan fans against Florida in 2003 for the Outback Bowl. Wonderful, you've introduced anecdotal evidence. As I said, Iowa travels just as well or maybe even better to these crappy bowl games than Michigan does. Did I say Michigan did not travel well? No, I didn't. I simply said that Iowa will bring the same amount of fans and maybe even more. Do you really think the business persons running these bowl games would invite an Iowa team if they knew they would not get as many fans if they had invited Michigan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 If it's such a crappy bowl Josh, why are you so upset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:20 PM) If it's such a crappy bowl Josh, why are you so upset? the Outback Bowl isn't crappy. At least not for me. They deserved to be in the Outback Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilsox7 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:20 PM) The Alamo Bowl was targeting Michigan all the way. It will be against Nebraksa because they wanted the history of the matchup. 97 Split Championship. You should be happy then. You'll get to see Michigan kill a s***ty Nebraska team. I, for one, will try to find something better to do with my December 28th than watch another underachiever from Michigan take the field. It's all really a moot point anyways b/c college football in the last decade has gotten consistently less exciting to watch. Either go to a playoff and determine a true National Champion or go back to the original bowl system with 3 million bowl games on New Year's Day. Neither will happen, so who cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:55 PM) Iowa lost to Michigan. Michigan beat Iowa at Iowa. That put a stop to Iowa's win streak at home. Look Michigan shouldn't be in this position because they didn't play well this season however they were much better than Iowa. Much better? They had the same record and beat Iowa by 3 when the Hawks weren't playing well. Iowa also blew a game in the last minute to Northwestern they should have won. Much better Michigan is not. The bottom line is that no matter what Michigan's fan base is, Iowa's travels more, and they want these fans in the stadium and spending money in their city. Iowa faced Florida 2 years ago when Zook was running Florida's program, and absolutely crushed them. I thought Trev Albert was going to go down on Ferentz the way he was talking him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(ilsox7 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:23 PM) You should be happy then. You'll get to see Michigan kill a s***ty Nebraska team. I, for one, will try to find something better to do with my December 28th than watch another underachiever from Michigan take the field. It's all really a moot point anyways b/c college football in the last decade has gotten consistently less exciting to watch. Either go to a playoff and determine a true National Champion or go back to the original bowl system with 3 million bowl games on New Year's Day. Neither will happen, so who cares. Playoff? Worst. Idea. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilsox7 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 05:29 PM) Playoff? Worst. Idea. Ever. It's a long debate. But the current BCS system is worse than both a playoff and the old system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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