SoxFan562004 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 3, 2005 -> 11:16 PM) Well that kind of puts the deal in perspective. I like Furcal, I think he's a damn solid player and if he can keep his errors down like he did this year he's a gold glover. 13 mill per year though is nuts. Trib mentioned today that players contracts are still insurable for up to 3 years, so the whole Dodgers contract will likely be insured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 12:07 AM) He's out with an injury, probably until mid June. Jeff Kent is signed for 2006 only so they could let him go or move him to 1B and let Izurtis play 2B. Bingo. Dodger shortstop Cesar Izturis, who won the Gold Glove award in 2004, is recovering from Tommy John surgery and is not expected to play until July. With Furcal in the fold, Izturis is expected to move to second base and Jeff Kent would play first base. http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb...&track=morenews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Furcal won't get hurt anyways so I don't think the insurance is going to be necessary later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 12:20 AM) Furcal won't get hurt anyways so I don't think the insurance is going to be necessary later You have a magic crystal ball? Anything can happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 The thing about is that the Cubs can get raped in a deal for Pierre but the fans would still think that the deal is the best ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(Felix @ Dec 3, 2005 -> 11:21 PM) You have a magic crystal ball? Anything can happen. True but If I had to rank players as far as likelihood of serious injury, he'd not be in the top 90 percent of my list. Maybe a jammed shoulder as a base stealer but I bet he's healthy for awhile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Dec 3, 2005 -> 11:20 PM) Furcal won't get hurt anyways so I don't think the insurance is going to be necessary later with the insurance I was thinking more of what if he gets another D.U.I. I'm not sure how much the players union would let a player sign a contract with a specific clause, and if he gets another D.U.I. it's going to be jail time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 3, 2005 -> 11:22 PM) The thing about is that the Cubs can get raped in a deal for Pierre but the fans would still think that the deal is the best ever. Messageboard fans overrate prospects, radio callers severely underrate them. Kind of weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Dec 3, 2005 -> 11:25 PM) Messageboard fans overrate prospects, radio callers severely underrate them. Kind of weird lol, i never thought of it in that terms, but that is a great analysis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Dec 3, 2005 -> 11:24 PM) with the insurance I was thinking more of what if he gets another D.U.I. I'm not sure how much the players union would let a player sign a contract with a specific clause, and if he gets another D.U.I. it's going to be jail time yeah I guess there could be a Billy Joel situation. Maybe McCourt can hire him a personal chauffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank the Tank 35 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Silvy has that wager with Carmen that if the Sox get Pierre, he will allow Bruce Levine to come into the studio and kick him in the groin. Irrespective of how childish it would be, it would be hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(Frank the Tank 35 @ Dec 3, 2005 -> 11:32 PM) Silvy has that wager with Carmen that if the Sox get Pierre, he will allow Bruce Levine to come into the studio and kick him in the groin. Irrespective of how childish it would be, it would be hilarious. Not quite a Sue Bird spanking bet but still pretty good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(Frank the Tank 35 @ Dec 3, 2005 -> 11:32 PM) Silvy has that wager with Carmen that if the Sox get Pierre, he will allow Bruce Levine to come into the studio and kick him in the groin. Irrespective of how childish it would be, it would be hilarious. To bad I actually like Silvy. Now if it was Mariotti, I would demand Kenny make a trade for Juan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Somewhere Paul DePodesta is laughing and Jim Hendry is crying. Good Times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 It's nice to have Juan Uribe for that gigantic contract we gave him last offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Wow, Cubs message boards are now taking shots about his drinking problems... (hey, I know that this place would have been ugly if PK walked, but KW CAME THROUGH!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 (edited) I understand the frustration of Cubs fans. Remember, two season ago Sox fans were under similiar conditions--opposing team in Chicago had experienced playoff success, and followed up their success by acquiring several high profile players. Whereas our management did little in the free agent market to address pressing needs. Now, in 2005, just multiply Cub anguish four fold. Winning a World Series is bound to aggrivate their fan base further. It's difficult sitting by watching your quasi-modo looking general manager overpaying for setup men, while seemingly ignoring a vital position such as shortstop. He may still pull of his annual raping of Pittsburgh, but unless he does something which upgrades three positions (CF/RF/SS), things won't be cheerful in Wrigleyville. Oh, and don't forget The Dude is still employed. He's already been labeled scapegoat for failing to establish fundementals the last several seasons. Edited December 4, 2005 by Flash Tizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 04:46 PM) It's nice to have Juan Uribe for that gigantic contract we gave him last offseason. Remember Anthrax arguing last off-season about how terrible that deal was, and how'd we could get Furcal for about $7-8M? OOPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Is anyone else laughing that we will pay Konerko less money per year than what the Dodgers will be paying Furcal? I know Konerko got more total money than Furcal but that still seems ridiculous to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Felix Pie + Rich Hill for Juan Pierre. Do it, Mr. Hendry, do it. Make me smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 (edited) I hear Jeff Blauser is available. Edited December 4, 2005 by KevHead0881 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 01:17 AM) Felix Pie + Rich Hill for Juan Pierre. Do it, Mr. Hendry, do it. Make me smile. Oh yes, i'm all for that. The Marlins will suck total cock next year, but their farm would be loaded if they could pull that off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Cubbies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotlanta13 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Are the Dodgers required to overpay for at least 1 free agent every offseason? Furcal Lowe Drew Dreifort Odalis Perez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 I first see the Cubs targetting a SS who can hit leadoff. Julio Lugo from the d-rays fits that. Then they might target Pierre. If the Cubs get Lugo, they'll still be looking for some LH Ofers who can hit w/ power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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