Balta1701 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 08:52 AM) Do you think there is any chance the Sox would consider Harris a candidate to play CF? I don't think I'd be terrifically surprised to see him play a game or two out there next year...not after seeing Timo play 1b, but as a regular? No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I want Bill Mueller...not Tony G. Tony, I thank you for your contribution this year, but I don't want you on the team. sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 11:54 AM) I'm pretty sure Tony G. is Konerko's best friend in baseball. There won't be any problems bringing him back into the clubhouse. Don't know about that, but Graffanino was a groomsman at Konerko's wedding. Graffanino went to KC because they have a profoundly Christian ballclub - not that he didn't like the Sox, but that KC was the baseball equivalent of a Christian high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 He'd be a kick-ass pinch hitter, I'll say that much. He ain't exactly Brooks Robinson with the glove, but you could give him an occasional start at 3B. He could also serve as an emergency DH. Give him somewhere between 250 and 300 ABs, and I do believe that he'd hit at or around .290 for us. I could be dead wrong, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 At the right price, I would do it. It would be an upgrade, hitting wise. I thought that Tony G was pretty decent with the glove though. That must've been the games I was just watching though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Philips Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(BlackBetsy @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 12:01 PM) Don't know about that, but Graffanino was a groomsman at Konerko's wedding. Graffanino went to KC because they have a profoundly Christian ballclub - not that he didn't like the Sox, but that KC was the baseball equivalent of a Christian high school. Maybe graff is the best Christian in the world but when he left the sox for Kansas city he left because he wanted to play everyday and Kenny W. did not see him as an everyday player. That's why.............................My choices are to go with Willie and Pablo both are great fielders and I see both improving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Personally, I don't think Harris will be on the Sox next year. I think he'll be traded in a minor deal in the next month or so to a team looking for a back-up 2nd baseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 11:16 AM) Personally, I don't think Harris will be on the Sox next year. I think he'll be traded in a minor deal in the next month or so to a team looking for a back-up 2nd baseman. Which is sad IMO. I still think Willie has value...not only at second...but he's really not that bad of a CF option just in case BA and or Owens fail miserably at the plate or get hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(forrestg @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 05:14 PM) go with Willie and Pablo both are great fielders and I see both improving. Pablo Ozuna will turn 32 next August, so I think it's safe to say that any improvement on the defensive end is unlikely. And besides, based on what I have seen, he is an atrocious third baseman. You're saying that he's great, Forrest? Well, it ain't at 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 If we sign Tony G, who gets the ax? Don't come back with Timo, because Graff is an infielder. He doesn't offer the speed or the glove at 2b that Willie does. He doesn't have the speed tha Ozuna does. Neither Pablo or Tony are good at 3B, but Ozuna plays a better SS imo. I really don't see where Graffanino helps this club any more than either of the other two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I've got no problem whatsoever of the White Sox adding Graff to the bench. Timo is gone. There is no reason to carry that light-weight again. That million can be put to better use paying Crede's, Garland's, & AJ's arbit price. Or better yet making a 3 yr offer to AJ. How can a team say they are so deep at OF to where they can trade Rowand & then keep Timo on this team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 As long as Ozzie is the manager and Uribe's on the team, Timo will be on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 05:41 PM) I really don't see where Graffanino helps this club any more than either of the other two. It would be nice to have a reliable pinch hitter, though. I suppose that Tony would be just a one-trick pony, but every team needs a John Mabry or Lennie Harris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 12:04 PM) It would be nice to have a reliable pinch hitter, though. I suppose that Tony would be just a one-trick pony, but every team needs a John Mabry or Lennie Harris. I'll give that one, but that's about it. Still, I think replacing Harris or Ozuna with Graffanino generally weakens the team. Edited December 7, 2005 by YASNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 The Sox could do worse than Graffanino. I'd rather have Mueller or someone more of a 3B. If Crede goes down for an extended length of time, I'd rather have Ozuna to replace him than Graffanino. However, if Mueller replaced Crede, I'd be much more confident. Then again, I've never been a big fan of Graffanino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wealz Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I think Harris would be a decent option as a back up in center. He's sort of a Juan Pierre lite type of player. As far as a back up infielder goes, I think Bellhorn would be an ideal fit. He'd be cheap, can play 2nd & 3rd, lefty hitter who gets on base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Philips Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 12:23 PM) Pablo Ozuna will turn 32 next August, so I think it's safe to say that any improvement on the defensive end is unlikely. And besides, based on what I have seen, he is an atrocious third baseman. You're saying that he's great, Forrest? Well, it ain't at 3B. Ozuna's throwing arm is not the greatest but he did make some catches off the line that Crede usually doesn't make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 If we sign Tony G, who gets the ax? Don't come back with Timo, because Graff is an infielder. He doesn't offer the speed or the glove at 2b that Willie does. He doesn't have the speed tha Ozuna does. Neither Pablo or Tony are good at 3B, but Ozuna plays a better SS imo. I really don't see where Graffanino helps this club any more than either of the other two. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Timo. Podsednik Anderson Dye Borchard Ozuna That's five outfielders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Borchard's likely not going to be on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Borchard's likely not going to be on the team. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Probably not, but I think I'd rather have him sucking off the bench and making nothing than Timo sucking off the bench and making over a million dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?...ll=1&thispage=2Another free agent of interest is Tony Graffanino, who ended last season as Boston's starting second baseman but would be a utility man with the Yankees. Cashman said some teams have expressed interest in trading for Tony Womack, who doesn't figure in the Yankees' plans, but a deal has been hard to consummate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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