SSH2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view...rticleid=116000 DALLAS - The Red Sox still have an array of needs to address this offseason, but all indications this afternoon are that the Sox are on the verge of completing a trade with the San Diego Padres for second baseman Mark Loretta. According to baseball sources, the Sox and Padres essentially have agreed to the deal that will send Mirabelli to San Diego for the 34-year-old Loretta. Announcement of the deal has been held up at San Diego’s request, perhaps until the Padres get a resolution in negotiations with closer Trevor Hoffman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Gammons basically said this was done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I fully understand why the Padres are making this move, but I have to make the smartass remark anyway: Good to see the Padres are really trying to build on that Division Title they won last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I don't get this trade at all. Lorreta is a damn good hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 02:18 PM) I fully understand why the Padres are making this move, but I have to make the smartass remark anyway: Good to see the Padres are really trying to build on that Division Title they won last year. I know they're doing this to try and get Trevor back but man...it looks like it is possible that the nl west has got worse so far this offseason. Obviously there is still plenty of time left but yeesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 02:19 PM) I don't get this trade at all. Lorreta is a damn good hitter. Freeing up money to try and re-sign Hoffman. EDIT: I agree though, I'm a big fan of Loretta. Edited December 7, 2005 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Author Share Posted December 7, 2005 This really shows what the Padres think of Miguel Olivo. The Garcia trade was a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 How the hell did they talk them into giving up Loretta for Mirabelli? I'm assuming that he'll be the starting catcher for San Diego, but I still don't see why you had to give up Loretta. The guy has been a pretty solid hitter with a high on-base percentage for some time now (career .301 BA, .265 OBP), and was an all-star as recently as 2004. That's a great move for Boston. They can slide him right into the #2 hole and move Renteria down in the order where he belongs. The top of the lineup will be even more ridiculous unless Damon and/or Manny are gone. That's two trades where they robbed the other team now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Plus, they need a catcher to replace Hernandez, who it seems they won't be spending the money to resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 02:20 PM) (career .301 BA, .265 OBP), Dayum, how the hell did he manage that? Edited December 7, 2005 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Yeah this seems like a steal for the Red Sox to me because Loretta can hit at a bad offensive position while Mirabelli is a backup. Will they be able to find a defender that can catch Wake? If Mirabelli were to be a 120 game catcher this would make more sense but I think Big Mo holds him off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 02:21 PM) Dayum, how the hell did he manage that? PRODUCTIVE OUTS!!!1!!11!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Not that I really care, but who is going to catch Wakefield now? Also, that NL West.....It's almost as if the Rockies could win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 03:19 PM) I don't get this trade at all. Lorreta is a damn good hitter. Teams like helping the Red Sox out. Wakefield will be considerably worse without Mirabelli catching him, most likely, but come on. This is really all the Padres will get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 12:19 PM) I don't get this trade at all. Lorreta is a damn good hitter. Ya, this makes zero sense to me. I figured they'd get Boomer, but without him I'm left puzzled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 01:25 PM) Teams like helping the Red Sox out. Wakefield will be considerably worse without Mirabelli catching him, most likely, but come on. This is really all the Padres will get? I know where you're coming from, and I'd expect the Padres to at least have gotten an additional prospect from Boston in the deal for it to be fair...but at least they're gaining salary flexibility. That's something. If not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Who catches Wakefield now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 01:37 PM) Who catches Wakefield now? The backstop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 03:21 PM) Dayum, how the hell did he manage that? Whoops, that's supposed to be a 3. That's not like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Ya, this makes zero sense to me. I figured they'd get Boomer, but without him I'm left puzzled. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well Josh Barfield has to play sometime.. Maybe they think he is ready now? The Pads are an Old team they need to have their farm system start producing something. He hit .315/.370/15/72.. I think the kid is ready! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 It's more of a money issue for the Padres. I think they're ready to up they're offer to Hoffman now. I'd rather that happen, than he go to Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Ugly Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Dec 7, 2005 -> 02:30 PM) It's more of a money issue for the Padres. I think they're ready to up they're offer to Hoffman now. I'd rather that happen, than he go to Cleveland. Trust me, this is the only positive coming out of this. As a Padres fan I am upset to see Loretta go, but would have been even more upset if they included Aki Otsuka for David Wells, which was the original proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Yeah I don't know why they are rumored to deal Otsuka at all if Hoffman goes. THey want Lienbrink to go the 7-8-9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcollapse Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 i don't get the whole money thing though.... according to this http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2251347 loretta is only going to make 3mil next year. i think even the padres could scrape up and extra 3 million to pay for a pretty good second baseman. and to only get mirabelli in return, who i wouldn't consider an everyday catcher? usually i think towers does a pretty good job, but i don't understand this at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 With the Padres losing both Loretta and Hernandez...and Bonds losing 40 pounds (hint hint), does anyone else think that the entire NL West may come out worse next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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