TheHawkaroo Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Last year vs Left-handed Batter: 2.28 ERA in 61 games. 20K 8BB. I don't think the A's have resigned him yet. Strictly a left specialist as his ERA against righties is just bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 dooo it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Ugly Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 QUOTE(TheHawkaroo @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 01:19 PM) I don't think the A's have resigned him yet. Strictly a left specialist as his ERA against righties is just bad. He was offered arbitration by them last night and looks like they want him back. Athletics offered arbitration to LHP Ricardo Rincon; declined to offer arbitration to 1B Erubiel Durazo, 1B Scott Hatteberg, RHP Octavio Dotel and C Alberto Castillo. MLB.com is saying Rincon agreed to reject the offer to give himself more time to negotiate with Oakland. He's not a Type A or B free agent, so there won't be any draft compensation for signing him. Dec. 7 - 9:24 pm et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 We have right-handers that are better than Rincon against lefties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHawkaroo Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 QUOTE(Winning Ugly @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 03:28 PM) He was offered arbitration by them last night and looks like they want him back. Makes sense, I don't know why they would get rid of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I always liked Rincon would be a great pickup instead of M.Myers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasHeGone Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Why do I feel like our standards for talent fell through the floor when we traded Damaso? I like the trade, but it sounds like the desperation of Soxtalkers for a lefty reliever is driving people to consider bottom-of-the-barrel talent. I'm waiting for someone to recommend bringing back Melido Perez and telling him to throw with his left hand out of the bullpen. Let's give a minor leaguer a shot instead of signing some 40 year old hack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 rincon = good option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 QUOTE(GasHeGone @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 12:06 AM) Why do I feel like our standards for talent fell through the floor when we traded Damaso? I like the trade, but it sounds like the desperation of Soxtalkers for a lefty reliever is driving people to consider bottom-of-the-barrel talent. I'm waiting for someone to recommend bringing back Melido Perez and telling him to throw with his left hand out of the bullpen. Let's give a minor leaguer a shot instead of signing some 40 year old hack. Let's get JOSE PANIAGUA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 QUOTE(bmags @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 08:56 PM) Let's get JOSE PANIAGUA Except he's a righty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mplssoxfan Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Jesse Orosco is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 01:47 AM) Except he's a righty. yeah uh, it was a joke that we lowered our standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 QUOTE(bmags @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 01:29 AM) yeah uh, it was a joke that we lowered our standards. Well, you could have at least used the name of a lefty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 07:47 PM) Except he's a righty. didn't he get ejected for flicking the Umpire off or something like that. He was released the next day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 f*** it. I got a better idea. John Rocker is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Jesse Orosco is available. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is he allowed to work with Social Security checks coming in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 01:48 AM) didn't he get ejected for flicking the Umpire off or something like that. He was released the next day. Congratulation, you have memory! You won! You won the prize! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 11:52 PM) Is he allowed to work with Social Security checks coming in? dunno but a clause in his contract will state that the club provide him with copies of AARP in the clubhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 11:54 PM) Congratulation, you have memory! You won! You won the prize! :finger :finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 8, 2005 -> 11:48 PM) didn't he get ejected for flicking the Umpire off or something like that. He was released the next day. Thats exactly what he did, thought he was getting squeezed and gave the ump the bird when Manuel took him out. He was released before he got to the dugout. One of the announcers, I forget who, later said that at that time they kept a picture of each White Sox player on the wall by the exec's sky box. A couple innings later, one of the aids came walking by with Paniagua's and said 'We don't need this one anymore.' Legendary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I wouldn't mind looking at Dotel (don't know how much he's looking for). He's coming off an injury and isn't a great closer, but he'd have closers experience and could come in and be a good setup man (a great one if he's healthy). Plus if Jenks or Hermy falter you have a really good backup plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 10, 2005 -> 01:00 AM) I wouldn't mind looking at Dotel (don't know how much he's looking for). He's coming off an injury and isn't a great closer, but he'd have closers experience and could come in and be a good setup man (a great one if he's healthy). Plus if Jenks or Hermy falter you have a really good backup plan. Dotel is a FA??? And if it were a righty KW looks at, I think he should consider Jeff Nelson or Ben Weber. These are the kinds of guys that fit on the Sox...and if all else fails, I have no problem with bringing Kelly Wunsch back. Others I would consider: Shigetoshi Hasegawa Danny Graves Chris Hammons Antonio Osuna Edited December 10, 2005 by SoxFan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 11:10 PM) Dotel is a FA??? Yessir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Dotel is a FA??? And if it were a righty KW looks at, I think he should consider Jeff Nelson or Ben Weber. These are the kinds of guys that fit on the Sox...and if all else fails, I have no problem with bringing Kelly Wunsch back. Others I would consider: Shigetoshi Hasegawa Danny Graves Chris Hammons Antonio Osuna <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey, Osuna was pretty solid for us in 2002. Just don't look at his 42.43 ERA with the Nationals last season. Is Chris Hammonds the only decent lefty option left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 09:10 PM) Dotel is a FA??? And if it were a righty KW looks at, I think he should consider Jeff Nelson or Ben Weber. These are the kinds of guys that fit on the Sox...and if all else fails, I have no problem with bringing Kelly Wunsch back. Others I would consider: Shigetoshi Hasegawa Danny Graves Chris Hammons Antonio Osuna All losers. No offense. Graves was horrid this past year. Hammons (isn't he a lefty?) has no stuff and is washed up (maybe he put up good numbers, hell I never knew how he put up good numbers but he did a couple years). Shiggy hasn't been a good reliever in a few years Ben Weber is god awful Jeff Nelson is an old fart Dotel wasn't great last year, but he's still young, has a power arm, and has above average stuff (plus he's been able to pitch). He's actually got ability and consideringh is injury (and the fact that hte Sox have depth) I think he'd be a nice guy to look at. I have no idea if he's expected back at the start of the season, but he's be a nice insurance plan and could be a good arm in the pen (although I'm sure he'd want to go to a team where he'd have a better shot at closing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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