southsider2k5 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 QUOTE(ptatc @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 03:47 PM) True but they were 3 year deals. Those aren't what I would consider the long term deals. Guaranteed 4-5 year deals are where I think KW will draw the line. JG will get that from someone else. Not here. How much better would they have looked if they had the last years money for two more years? Buehrle through say 2009 at $10 million a year would be a HUGE steal, same for Garcia at $8 million. Heck the first few years Contreras deal was horrible, now he would be looking at $10 million a year for the finish he had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Garland straightup for overpaid Vasquez is bad enough, but there is no way in HELL that the Sox should include Young with Garland in the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 02:56 PM) How much better would they have looked if they had the last years money for two more years? Buehrle through say 2009 at $10 million a year would be a HUGE steal, same for Garcia at $8 million. Heck the first few years Contreras deal was horrible, now he would be looking at $10 million a year for the finish he had. There are plenty of examples of the albatross contracts also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 04:00 PM) There are plenty of examples of the albatross contracts also. The point being, you can't just assume it will be a bad deal, simply because of how long it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I read the article several times and it isn't really clear that Chris Young would be involved in a "package" deal with Garland. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it sounds like Rosenthal just heard that Young for Vasquez would be another possibility. Either way, I doubt Young will be going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierzynski 12 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 (edited) Chris Young isn't some kind of superstar, you know. Edited December 13, 2005 by Pierzynski 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EDIT: f*** RUMORS..f*** RUMORS..f*** RUMORS.f*** RUMORS..f*** RUMORS... :sleep Edited December 13, 2005 by hi8is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 QUOTE(Pierzynski 12 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 09:09 PM) Chris Young isn't some kind of superstar, you know. Well, if that's the case, then no one was a superstar when they were in the minors. Young's potential is leaps and bounds higher than any other Sox prospect right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Holy crap, I just logged on to see Vazquez could come to the sox. I am not going to read through 22 pages, but does any know if he will wave his no trade clause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 09:16 PM) Holy crap, I just logged on to see Vazquez could come to the sox. I am not going to read through 22 pages, but does any know if he will wave his no trade clause? 18 holes of golf last week make it likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 QUOTE(hi8is @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 04:13 PM) EDIT: f*** RUMORS..f*** RUMORS..f*** RUMORS.f*** RUMORS..f*** RUMORS... :sleep Awww he learned how to use cut and paste... isn't it cute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Anyone want to update me on whats happaning so I don't have to read 22 pages? All I read was the first post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 (edited) You know, if I'm Kenny, I'd say: "Here's the deal. Garland for Vazquez straight up. If you want us to take on the whole salary, give us a top-line prospect like Carlos Quentin or Conor Jackson. If not, we'll go to Spring Training with what we have and take our chances next off-season." There are also some marquee free agent pitchers after 2006. Edited December 13, 2005 by CanOfCorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Awww he learned how to use cut and paste... isn't it cute. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That just made my day.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) Anyone want to update me on whats happaning so I don't have to read 22 pages? All I read was the first post... RECAP The Sox have supposedly been in talks with Arizona about a possible deal for Javier Vasquez. Could be for either Garland or Contreras...the consensus appears to be Garland. Ozzie golfed with Vasquez, so we know they both like golf. Some people like it. Some people don't. Should stick with Garland...since he's gonna leave at the end of the season we should do the trade...we should trade him, but not for Vasquez...yada yada yada. Rosenthal says Chris Young might be involved. hi8is doesn't like rumors. Edited December 13, 2005 by KevHead0881 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 04:23 PM) There are also some marquee free agent pitchers after 2006. Out of curiosity, who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 RECAP hi8is doesn't like rumors. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How in the hell did you figure that out.. I swear you have to be one of the smartest posters on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Is there a way to make this a poll? That would solve alot of recaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 04:30 PM) How in the hell did you figure that out.. I swear you have to be one of the smartest posters on here. I got a little confused at first. Was it that he didn't like the hit Fleetwood Mac album? Then I figured that theory wouldn't make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 09:25 PM) RECAP The Sox have supposedly been in talks with Arizona about a possible deal for Javier Vasquez. Could be for either Garland or Contreras...the consensus appears to be Garland. Ozzie golfed with Vasquez, so we know they both like golf. Some people like it. Some people don't. Should stick with Garland...since he's gonna leave at the end of the season we should do the trade...we should trade him, but not for Vasquez...yada yada yada. Rosenthal says Chris Young might be involved. hi8is doesn't like rumors. Thank you. But :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport Sox Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 03:40 PM) Thank you. But :puke sorry all, i started this thread in palehose talk without looking here first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Well I hope KW doesn't give up Young for Vazquez. KW is in the driver seat both because Garland had a better year last year and because Vazquez is demanding to be traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(G&T @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 04:28 PM) Out of curiosity, who? Sorry, meant to add a link. Possible 2006 Free Agents Edited December 13, 2005 by CanOfCorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 09:18 PM) Awww he learned how to use cut and paste... isn't it cute. hysterical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I still don't understand why Contreras would be eligible for free agency after next season. He has not had 6 years in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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