hi8is Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 seems like we now no longer have duque, visciano, or marte in the bullpen..... so far these guys are a lock jenks cotts polite these guys are question marks hermenson (health) bmac (if garland gets traded, hes not in the pen durrr) so... let the endless specualtion of in house, FA, and trade possiblities begin... ill start. "Both the Yankees and Red Sox are talking with free agent Rudy Seanez. It's been reported that Seanez would prefer to pitch for the Braves, but if they're in on him, they've managed to keep it quiet. Seanez actually pitched for the Red Sox briefly in 2003, allowing six earned runs in 8 2/3 innings. Everyone is taking a closer look at him after he finished last season with a 2.69 ERA in a career-high 60 1/3 IP for the Padres. Dec. 14 - 4:54 am et" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Was just thinkin about Seanez myself. Some team like the Braves may offer him a closer's job though. Still if he wants to win a Championship, we may have a good chance. Other pitchers could include; Giovanni Carrara Felix Rodriguez Jeff Nelson Jim Mecir Joey Eischen So yes not a lot on the FA market as well. KW may have to get creative again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Garland/Contreras + prospect for Abreu Dye for MR + spec or 2 good MRs How's that for speculation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 10:35 AM) Garland/Contreras + prospect for Abreu Dye for MR + spec or 2 good MRs How's that for speculation? f***ing horrible! you didnt even speculate who the pitchers are GOD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(hi8is @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 05:42 AM) f***ing horrible! you didnt even speculate who the pitchers are GOD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 1. Dotel. Sign him, rehab him, bring him back midseason. 2. Use Garland to bring the Sox several relief pitchers. Dodgers could give us quite the package, which may include several good pitching prospects. Not sure whether or not they're looking for starting pitching, but I'd rather give him to a team stocked with pitching in the National League, on the West Coast, where there's a strong possbility he'll resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 (edited) I'm pretty sure Eischen is still under Nats control. EDIT: Maybe not, I see he has a protected contract yet he's listed as a FA so I'm not sure. He's definitely a guy I'd like to look at if he's available. Ok, he's still on the 40 man roster of the Nats so he's not a fa. Problem solved. Edited December 14, 2005 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 10:03 PM) I'm pretty sure Eischen is still under Nats control. EDIT: Maybe not, I see he has a protected contract yet he's listed as a FA so I'm not sure. He's definitely a guy I'd like to look at if he's available. Ahh my bad, he was signed to a 1 year deal today. So cut him out of the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 The relievers will come via the trade route [probably Garland, and the guys like Harris, Gload, Joe B]. Right now the FA market is overpriced and underwhelming in terms of talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 The relievers will come via the trade route [probably Garland, and the guys like Harris, Gload, Joe B]. Right now the FA market is overpriced and underwhelming in terms of talent <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't see us trading Garland for relievers but I agree with you on Willie and Borchard. They could be used to acquire young, low-profile relievers with some upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Mecir is kind of old (35), but he wouldn't be a bad replacement for Vizcaino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 11:24 AM) I don't see us trading Garland for relievers but I agree with you on Willie and Borchard. They could be used to acquire young, low-profile relievers with some upside. I see Garland being moved for multiple players, one of which could be a bullpen guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Ugueth Urbina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 The Sox will probably look into Ugeuth Urbina. I'd look at Felix Rodriguez and Jim Mecir personally and Urbina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 The Sox will probably look into Ugeuth Urbina. I'd look at Felix Rodriguez and Jim Mecir personally and Urbina. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do they have to set up a visiting time to see him?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelinman89 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I sure hope the Sox don't look at Urbina. Dont forget he was charged with attempted murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(travelinman89 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 09:31 AM) I sure hope the Sox don't look at Urbina. Dont forget he was charged with attempted murder. I actually wouldn't be shocked if Ozzie were the guy to give him the chance to get his career back on track, although it remains to be seen whether he will ever step foot in the US again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 1. Dotel. Sign him, rehab him, bring him back midseason. 2. Use Garland to bring the Sox several relief pitchers. Dodgers could give us quite the package, which may include several good pitching prospects. Not sure whether or not they're looking for starting pitching, but I'd rather give him to a team stocked with pitching in the National League, on the West Coast, where there's a strong possbility he'll resign. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Love your suggestion #2. Dodgers are a good fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingish Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(travelinman89 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 10:31 AM) I sure hope the Sox don't look at Urbina. Dont forget he was charged with attempted murder. Yeah, charged with attempted murder is the key thing, not convicted. Besides the fact that he is innocent until proven otherwise, remember he was charged with this crime in a country whose legal system isn't exactly the bedrock of integrity. If Ozzie thinks enough of him as a human being to go visit him in Jail twice since the off-season started, that's all I need to know about what kind of person he is. Obviously Ozzie thinks a lot of him, and on a pure baseball level the guy is one of the better relivers out there and would make an excellent addition to the staff. Who knows who controls the local police and judges in whatever Venezuelan district Urbina was charged in, drug lords, gangs, the governement? This isn't like the U.S., I'll take Ozzie's read on the situation over the Media's any day of the week. If he is convicted, or isn't allowed back in the country the point is moot, if he is out and acquitted by next season, and can be had for $1mil. or so, it's a no-brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Is Urbina a free agent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(travelinman89 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 09:31 AM) I sure hope the Sox don't look at Urbina. Dont forget he was charged with attempted murder. that doesnt necessarily mean hes a bad clubhouse guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(daa84 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 11:58 AM) that doesnt necessarily mean hes a bad clubhouse guy Just don't piss him off. Oops. Meant to be in green, not bold. Edited December 14, 2005 by YASNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 If these lazy ass pitchers would just pitch complete games like the old timers did, this wouldn't be an issue.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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