NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html I guess the buck really does stop with him after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I'll predict that this is not good enough for many. /bows out before it gets ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Yesirree. All better now. :rolly :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Hey, great for him. That's a start for making stuff right. Now he should tell his friends in the Republican leadership to allow the second phase of the Congressional investigation regarding intel and the Iraq war to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 01:46 PM) http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html I guess the buck really does stop with him after all. Just 2 years after the fact and trying to throw every excuse under the sun out there, it is good to see him finally owning up to that mantra of personal responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Good for him. And I'm not being facetious at all. As much as I dislike him, I give him respect for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 you mean that bush accually amited he was wrong... oh wait... not really. stop the press heh "It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong,'' Bush said today in the final speech in a series intended to outline his Iraq strategy. ``Given Saddam's history and the lessons of September the 11th, my decision to remove Saddam Hussein was the right decision.'' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHawkaroo Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Bush admitting he is wrong doesn't do anything for the situation. Fact of the matter is he probably knew it was wrong all along and just used it as a reasoning for war so he and his oil buddies could start splitting up the middle east. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(TheHawkaroo @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 03:44 PM) Bush admitting he is wrong doesn't do anything for the situation. Fact of the matter is he probably knew it was wrong all along and just used it as a reasoning for war so he and his oil buddies could start splitting up the middle east. Rediculous. Go buy yourself a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Totally ridiculous. This war had less to do with oil than most people think or realize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 i think splitting up is too harsh of a term. "having a better control over" would be much more accurate. Let's face it.. if this administration was really concerned about "possible threats" to the US, wouldn't we have been all over N. Korea years ago? On a sidenote, isn't communist countries holidng US Debt a threat to our national security? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 07:46 PM) http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html I guess the buck really does stop with him after all. hopefully this is the first of many more "I screwed up" statements to come from this President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHawkaroo Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(jasonxctf @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 04:02 PM) i think splitting up is too harsh of a term. "having a better control over" would be much more accurate. Let's face it.. if this administration was really concerned about "possible threats" to the US, wouldn't we have been all over N. Korea years ago? On a sidenote, isn't communist countries holidng US Debt a threat to our national security? By splitting up I mean installing a democratic goverment, which means letting our businesess move in and take over the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 That's nice, but I never blamed Bush for the bad intel. How about the guys that fed him the wrong info taking a hike? How about we learn from this and figure out how not to make this mistake again? Not just this administration, but future ones as well. I have a lot of respect for Dubya in several areas. But when guys start taking blame for s*** that happened several layers beneath them, they seem to be placating some element of society. I am not criticizing him for the statement, I don't think it needed to be made by him. I think it needed to be made by the people who actually delivered the wrong information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 11:54 PM) That's nice, but I never blamed Bush for the bad intel. How about the guys that fed him the wrong info taking a hike? How about we learn from this and figure out how not to make this mistake again? Not just this administration, but future ones as well. I have a lot of respect for Dubya in several areas. But when guys start taking blame for s*** that happened several layers beneath them, they seem to be placating some element of society. I am not criticizing him for the statement, I don't think it needed to be made by him. I think it needed to be made by the people who actually delivered the wrong information. Do you have a fever, Tex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:54 PM) That's nice, but I never blamed Bush for the bad intel. How about the guys that fed him the wrong info taking a hike? How about we learn from this and figure out how not to make this mistake again? Not just this administration, but future ones as well. I have a lot of respect for Dubya in several areas. But when guys start taking blame for s*** that happened several layers beneath them, they seem to be placating some element of society. I am not criticizing him for the statement, I don't think it needed to be made by him. I think it needed to be made by the people who actually delivered the wrong information. Apologies and "taking personal responsibility" tends to mean little if things aren't being changed to make sure it doesn't happen again. Some people need to get the s*** can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:04 PM) Do you have a fever, Tex? Here's Tex's view of government. You have lifers and you have politicians and their leeches. These mistakes were made by the lifers that have been there for months, years, and decades. They were brought on during Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush terms. In a few years they will have pictures of The Hammer on their walls. Or Hillary, maybe McCain. They don't care. It don't matter whose signing the checks, they go to work. Now I can't blame any of the before mentioned Heads of State for the information they received being wrong from these lifers. Now if Bush would like to say, I made a bad decision, based on bad information, we're getting closer to him actually taking responsibility for something he did. Now when Dubya or any head of state takes responsibility for one of the politicians he brings in and the patronage workers, now I don't mind a I screwed up, the buck stops here. These are his people or his people's people. They brought them, he owns them, and he can take responsibility. If the hat fits wear it, if not try another. It's my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 What has changed in the last few weeks that makes Bush see that he received bad info? He hasn't said that before. In fact, he has always said just the opposite. His recent "flip flop" is totally political. I totally doubt its sincerity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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