AddisonStSox Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 What would you like to see in return? I'm very interested as to what you all think. Spitballing: Kenny can go into the season with Garland and Vazquez on the staff, putting McCarthy in the pen and dangling Garland at the trade deadline, or trade him before ST. Does he re-stock on the prospects(doubtful, apparently they have been expendable as of late)? Does he find bullpen arms? Does he find another bat(CF)? I'm interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I want to turn him into pitchers for the pen and/or prospects this winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 (edited) Bullpen and a MI prospect. Like to the Dodgers for Bullpen and Delwyn Young. Edited December 14, 2005 by AnthraxFan93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox It To Em Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I'm hoping for Crawford, but that seems unlikely. Another great choice would be Tejada, but that too seems very unlikely. Maybe we trade Garland for a quality CF (i.e. Kotsay) and a solid reliever in return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 After paying huge prices (in terms of prospects) to get Thome and Vazquez, I'll be disappointed if KW doesn't get equal value for Garland. Garland should be a huge trade chip right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 After paying huge prices (in terms of prospects) to get Thome and Vazquez, I'll be disappointed if KW doesn't get equal value for Garland. Garland should be a huge trade chip right now. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Garland is essentially a one year rental, unless he's traded to some team where he'll sign an extension, or at the least be very willing to consider one. That has the Dodgers written all over it. They could possibly trade for Garland and work out a contract. If the White Sox are able to pull off a Garland/Uribe deal for Miguel Tejada, KW should be executive of the year 2006 in advance. Meaning, Garland's value is as a one year starter as it stands right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 01:54 PM) After paying huge prices (in terms of prospects) to get Thome and Vazquez, I'll be disappointed if KW doesn't get equal value for Garland. Garland should be a huge trade chip right now. I'm with you. As I've posted elswhere , this trade becomes much easier to stomach if you look big-picture. I think I was unable to see the forest through the trees. If Garland is not on the five-year board, and you have the opportunity to acquire someone with front-of-the-rotation stuff for under $8M in this market, you've done quite well--albeit at the loss of your finest prospect(s). What he'll be used for, I'm not quite sure. But, I'm hoping Kenny goes against this recent trend of under-valuing one's own players to net the exact player one wants. Garland SHOULD be looked at as one of the best players available...period...anything else and I think the organization made a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 If we trade Garland I hope we can aquire the pieces to land Crawford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 holy s***! it just now sunk in with me exactly HOW MUCH trade intrest garland will be generating from other GMs around the leauge...... i could see the following teams inquiring about him: phillies yankees red sox rangers mets angles cubs (HAHAHAHHAHAHA) hold on..... BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA HAHHAHAHAHA mother f***ing FUNNY AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHa ok.... astros cardnals blue jays athletics padres reds tigers (beacuse they are the only ones stupid enough to ask in our division) orilles thats pretty insane talk about having the captins hat on with a pocket PAIR of trip ACES hahahaha f*** i think we are under estimating what garland could bring in trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 01:59 PM) Garland is essentially a one year rental, unless he's traded to some team where he'll sign an extension, or at the least be very willing to consider one. That has the Dodgers written all over it. They could possibly trade for Garland and work out a contract. If the White Sox are able to pull off a Garland/Uribe deal for Miguel Tejada, KW should be executive of the year 2006 in advance. Meaning, Garland's value is as a one year starter as it stands right now. If Williams was willing to give up Reed/Morse/Olivo for Garcia, midseason, in his contract year, there's no excuse for Garland netting us junk. I'd request a package similar to the Garcia deal, in the sense we'd be receiving one major league player and two prospects. If not LA, as you speculate, there has to be some team out there desperate for pitching yet not willing to commit a sizable contract. Isn't it about time for an organization to overpay for one of our players? Let's whore Garland for our advantage. It's obvious he's not going to be here, anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 i think we are under estimating what garland could bring in trade. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> At least 2 bags of Honey Roasted Peanuts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 02:11 PM) If Williams was willing to give up Reed/Morse/Olivo for Garcia, midseason, in his contract year, there's no excuse for Garland netting us junk. I'd request a package similar to the Garcia deal, in the sense we'd be receiving one major league player and two prospects. If not LA, as you speculate, there has to be some team out there desperate for pitching yet not willing to commit a sizable contract. Isn't it about time for an organization to overpay for one of our players? Let's whore Garland for our advantage. It's obvious he's not going to be here, anyways. We are in complete agreement. That was perfect. I couldn't have said that any better. ...especially not the last two sentences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 If Williams was willing to give up Reed/Morse/Olivo for Garcia, midseason, in his contract year, there's no excuse for Garland netting us junk. I'd request a package similar to the Garcia deal, in the sense we'd be receiving one major league player and two prospects. If not LA, as you speculate, there has to be some team out there desperate for pitching yet not willing to commit a sizable contract. Isn't it about time for an organization to overpay for one of our players? Let's whore Garland for our advantage. It's obvious he's not going to be here, anyways. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I hope that it is LA, they have a great Farm system and the fact that Garland would love that pArk. I really like the Delywn Young, a 2b who needs 1 more year in the minors before getting a call to the show. I don't know what he bring Def to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 02:12 PM) At least 2 bags of Honey Roasted Peanuts? Yet, if Williams were to trade for Garland under similiar circumstances, it'd be for 2 bags of Honey Roasted Peanuts, a stick of beer jerkey, and our highly touted chewing gum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 If Williams was willing to give up Reed/Morse/Olivo for Garcia, midseason, in his contract year, there's no excuse for Garland netting us junk. I'd request a package similar to the Garcia deal, in the sense we'd be receiving one major league player and two prospects. If not LA, as you speculate, there has to be some team out there desperate for pitching yet not willing to commit a sizable contract. Isn't it about time for an organization to overpay for one of our players? Let's whore Garland for our advantage. It's obvious he's not going to be here, anyways. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They pretty much knew Garcia would agree to a contract extension, that's the key element in this equation. But of course, yes, it would be nice for some team to overpay. What do the White Sox need right now, they need: - a lefty reliever - a mop up guy, aka a reasonably effective guy who can go multiple innings - a 4th OF who can play all 3 spots Arguably, all those can be had without trading Garland. Therefore if the tea leaves are correct and they're trading Garland, he goes for an upgrade at some position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Garland to the Dodgers for Edwin Jackson, Joel Guzman and Yhency Brazoban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 04:21 PM) Garland to the Dodgers for Edwin Jackson, Joel Guzman and Yhency Brazoban. WOW. I would eat my hat if that happened. It won't, but damn, one can dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Garland to the Dodgers for Edwin Jackson, Joel Guzman and Yhency Brazoban. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Delwyn Young instead of Guzman.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksd Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(hi8is @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 02:09 PM) holy s***! it just now sunk in with me exactly HOW MUCH trade intrest garland will be generating from other GMs around the leauge...... i could see the following teams inquiring about him: tigers (beacuse they are the only ones stupid enough to ask in our division) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 How does Brazoban (he'll bounceback in a middle role), Joel Guzman (he's gonna be a masher, and a guy like Billingsley or Tiffany sound? That might be more than the Dodgers want to give up but its possible the'd do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 How does Brazoban (he'll bounceback in a middle role), Joel Guzman (he's gonna be a masher, and a guy like Billingsley or Tiffany sound? That might be more than the Dodgers want to give up but its possible the'd do it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> See the top of Page 2.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 If you could get two prospects like Guzman and Billingsley for Garland, you've made a great trade. However, I don't think KW is too focused about stocking our farm system. He'll be looking for immediate contributors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 08:11 PM) If Williams was willing to give up Reed/Morse/Olivo for Garcia, midseason, in his contract year, there's no excuse for Garland netting us junk. I'd request a package similar to the Garcia deal, in the sense we'd be receiving one major league player and two prospects. If not LA, as you speculate, there has to be some team out there desperate for pitching yet not willing to commit a sizable contract. Isn't it about time for an organization to overpay for one of our players? Let's whore Garland for our advantage. It's obvious he's not going to be here, anyways. Here, Here! Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 11:59 AM) Garland is essentially a one year rental, unless he's traded to some team where he'll sign an extension, or at the least be very willing to consider one. That has the Dodgers written all over it. They could possibly trade for Garland and work out a contract. If the White Sox are able to pull off a Garland/Uribe deal for Miguel Tejada, KW should be executive of the year 2006 in advance. Meaning, Garland's value is as a one year starter as it stands right now. Just look what Beane got for Mulder is all I have to say about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 10:35 PM) Just look what Beane got for Mulder is all I have to say about that. If KW could get a Barton / Haren / Calero package for Garland, I'd kiss his feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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