juevos Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 of el duque/vizcaino/young? i think i would have rather done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 of el duque/vizcaino/young? i think i would have rather done that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> NO thanks.. we basiclly gave up Viz and Young for Vazquez leaving us to use Garland/Jose to ship somewhere else even if we do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABearSoX Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Not a chance......Garland's stock is high and if kenny trades him, we should get something quite considerable.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Now if Conor Jackson was shipped with Vazquez.. Then we are talking a different story.. and I would have been pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juevos Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 i guess it call comes down to whether you can trade garland for someone with young's potential. key word being potential. i personally don't think you can. but then again, i've never even seen young play. but from what i've read, descriptions from baseball america has him; 'fastest base runner in the minors' 'most complete prospect' sounds pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Actually the guy that the DBacks were pushing for was Anderson...and this combination was the one they settled on. Who knows...Young could eventually be a stud...guess we'll see in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(juevos @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 05:03 PM) of el duque/vizcaino/young? i think i would have rather done that. i think you're on drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 05:07 PM) Now if Conor Jackson was shipped with Vazquez.. Then we are talking a different story.. and I would have been pissed. I would have wanted Stephen Drew... that would have been the shyte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balance Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 (edited) No offense, juevos, but the trade you suggested would have been a really lousy trade. Edited December 14, 2005 by Balance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan14 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Ha HA! that's so not even funy! what are you insane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juevos Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 well apparently im on drugs and insane. perhaps the drugs is for the insanity? lets think about it. garland had ONE good year. do you really think his stock is that high? on the other hand, young has had some good years, but in the minors. so, like i said, comes down to would you trade garland for someone with young's talents? i don't think there is a right or wrong answer at this point. but az did trade vasquez, essentially for young and vizcaino. el duque is a throw in and vizcaino is serviceable. only time will tell how good young is and how consitent garland can be. i simply asked for everyone's opinion. apparently that makes me kookoo and on the stuff =) haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 It depends on what we do now with Garland/Contreras. If we deal them for another player that can help us than Ill like the trade more. But if we keep both and lose Garland in f/a and get nothing in return than ill be kind of pissed. Mostly because we have B-Mac ready this season and didnt need Vazquez. So basicly right now im not 2 happy with it but if KW does another trade involving one of our SP's than I might change my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 You've got a lot of juevos posting that my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I hope we keep Jon. He had one great year. I don't think we should make too many changes one year after winning it all. I like the moves so far, though Rowand will be missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Juevos doesn't understand that El Duque and Viz have no trade value. The deal was Young for Vazquez. With El Duque, Viz, and cash thrown in to make it a minimal hit to the Sox '06 salary. Duque is old 'n busted. Viz is not teh new hotness. In fact, he was in danger of being non-tendered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 (edited) ^^^^^^^^^^ I actually thought El Duque would have negative trade value due to his suckiness and contract, if that is possible. Vizcaino is a mediocre to bad reliever. Young is the only player this team will miss. Edited December 15, 2005 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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