RockRaines Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 05:37 PM) OK 6 of one half dozen of another. if they move him (1B), it will stay take longer to develop. By the way we are loaded at first base as well. Bye bye to fields...later though. Nice to see you back BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Nice to see you back BTW. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Right, it's a lot easier on me too. He can post for himself vs. instant messaging me trying to tell me what to post. Guess what, we are going for beers Sat. nite, the wives abadoned us for a Sat. evening, and we will have a good laugh about all the prospect love that goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 05:48 PM) Nice to see you back BTW. Maybe the Borchard comparisons will prove to be unfair because Fields is still so early in his development but its hard to ignore the striking similarities. Well not that hard seeing that the Sox drafted him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 BTW I love the comment on that Hot Stove blog that says this Texas deal would be great for both teams. Hmmm ... funny ... isn't that what KW always tries to accomplish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 03:36 PM) Footwork supposedly quite improved in AFL, For what that's worth. I think Blalock's footwork is pretty good though. I have my doubts on Fields, but he really made progress as the season progressed last year. He has the tools, although I think the Sox are rushing them if they send him to AAA. Plus the Knights park does awful things to a hitters swing (at least it seems to). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 (edited) Just saw this on ESPN News http://www.metsblog.com/TheHotStoveReport <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It would be nice if the Rangers also threw in a pitching prospect but I like the deal. We are going to lose Garland after 2006 anyways and Crede soon after. We would have Blalock on a cheap 3-year deal. Podsednik (lefty) Iguchi (righty) Thome (lefty) Konerko (righty) Blalock (lefty) Dye (righty) Pierzynski (lefty) Uribe (righty) Anderson (righty) That lineup kicks ass. Edited December 16, 2005 by SSH2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasHeGone Posted December 16, 2005 Author Share Posted December 16, 2005 I'm pretty proud of this thread. I'm usually the asshole who creates topics that have been already been posted. Not this time. Thank you, Ralph Malph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 (edited) Blalock has a really nice contract as well: 2006: $3.00 million 2007: $4.75 million 2008: $5.95 million 2009: $6.20 million option; $250,000 buyout Edited December 16, 2005 by SSH2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 08:45 PM) It would be nice if the Rangers also threw in a pitching prospect but I like the deal. We are going to lose Garland after 2006 anyways and Crede soon after. We would have Blalock on a cheap 3-year deal. Podsednik (lefty) Iguchi (righty) Thome (lefty) Konerko (righty) Blalock (lefty) Dye (righty) Pierzynski (lefty) Uribe (righty) Anderson (righty) That lineup kicks ass. Actually they will throw in a pitching prospect. KW will want to get an arm for triple A. In addition another reason this makes sense is that Texas and Boras get along well. I would think texas would be able to sign Crede long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Actually they will throw in a pitching prospect. KW will want to get an arm for triple A. In addition another reason this makes sense is that Texas and Boras get along well. I would think texas would be able to sign Crede long term. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, we are talking about it in the other Garland thread. The Rangers also have a couple highly rated starting pitching prospects in John Danks and Thomas Diamond. They could include one of those two guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Isn't there talk about Wilkerson? I'm all for giving Anderson his shot, but Wilkerson would be a good #2 hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWs OK for Me Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 QUOTE(SEALgep @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) Isn't there talk about Wilkerson? I'm all for giving Anderson his shot, but Wilkerson would be a good #2 hitter. Yea he's a high OBP guy, but he strikes out a 100+ times a year (147, 152, 155, 161 last 4 years). Do you really want that in your 2 hole when you are trying to move a runner over? I don't know, thats just something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 08:47 PM) Yeah, we are talking about it in the other Garland thread. The Rangers also have a couple highly rated starting pitching prospects in John Danks and Thomas Diamond. They could include one of those two guys. Browsing Google for information relaing to those two, both are currently in the Rangers AA affiliate. Unless we're considering moving either to bullpen use, they'd be useless this season. I can imagine either would start the season at AAA. Which is fine, but unfortunately we'd still have two open bullpen positions. Is there even a AAA pitcher on the Rangers that is worthy of being included alongside Blalock in any deal for Garland/Crede? I would believe if there were a AAA pitcher succeeding Texas would hold onto them. Edited December 16, 2005 by Flash Tizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 (edited) Isn't there talk about Wilkerson? I'm all for giving Anderson his shot, but Wilkerson would be a good #2 hitter. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe Wilkerson will be a free agent after 2006 and is also a Boras client. Not gonna happen. Edited December 16, 2005 by SSH2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 QUOTE(SEALgep @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) Isn't there talk about Wilkerson? I'm all for giving Anderson his shot, but Wilkerson would be a good #2 hitter. Yes in the original thread, but as this plays out, I actually think KW would rather have the prospect than Wilkerson. Firstly it gives one of our prospects a chance to play center field. In addition we will need a back up arm in case of injury this year. I like Wilkerson alot, I have no idea what he is owed but if they get blaylock I think they will be able to hide andersen in the lineup. Just some thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 09:57 PM) Browsing Google for information relaing to those two, both are currently in the Rangers AA affiliate. Unless we're considering moving either to bullpen use, they'd be useless this season. I can imagine either would start the season at AAA. Which is fine, but unfortunately we'd still have two open bullpen positions. Is there even a AAA pitcher on the Rangers that is worthy of being included alongside Blalock in any deal for Garland/Crede? I could imagine if there were a AAA pitcher succeeding Texas would hold onto them. THere will be people non tendered later next week. We will get a bullpen guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 09:57 PM) I believe Wilkerson will be a free agent after 2006 and is also a Boras client. Not gonna happen. There you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 remember tho, people on here were saying garland for vazquez and such instead it was useless pitcher hernadez + viz and a prospect for vazquez. Alot can change from now and the time of the trade, hell, im very confident it well be something better then we think . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 (edited) Garland and Crede for Blalock and a pitching prospect makes the most sense. We would lose Garland after 2006 anyways and you know KW and Reinsdorf want to get rid of their last remaining Boras client. Blalock would be under an inexpensive deal for 3 or 4 years. Bruce Levine on ESPN 1000 right now. He still thinks both the Cubs and the Sox are in the hunt for Miguel Tejada. He says either Garland or Contreras will definately be traded. Levine is saying that neither Cubs or Sox officials would talk to him about Tejada, meaning something is probably up. He is saying that Orioles officials still say Tejada wants to leave and they want a blockbuster package for him. Edited December 16, 2005 by SSH2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 09:03 PM) Garland and Crede for Blalock and a pitching prospect makes the most sense. We would lose Garland after 2006 anyways and you know KW and Reinsdorf want to get rid of their last remaining Boras client. Blalock would be under an inexpensive deal for 3 or 4 years. Bruce Levine on ESPN 1000 right now. I'd have no probelm with merely a pitching prospect and Blalock if the pitching prospect were top tier. Atleast within the Top 20 in the league. Are Diamond or Danks either of these? Can we project either of these two to enter our rotation (or bullpen) by 2007? In my mind, top pitching prospects within the Texas Rangers organization doesn't do much. The same title for the Dodgers, however, is quite different. I'd rather trade Garland to LA for two quality prospects (one Guzman, ideally), leave Crede on our club for this year, and worry about a replacement 3B in 2007. Edited December 16, 2005 by Flash Tizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Right, forget about Wilkerson, he is indeed a Boras client. I think one of those pitching prospects is too, not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Interesting about levine. I don't think he knows what he is talking about, but on the chance he does, I think its interesting what KW is doing. basically he is using Garland as leverage agaisnt both these teams. For tejeda it will be garland that gets traded not Mcarthy. he wants garland out, and the orioles would risk losing Garland after one year where TExas would probably over pay to keep him. KW is very smart and I think either way we can't lose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 (edited) Right, forget about Wilkerson, he is indeed a Boras client. I think one of those pitching prospects is too, not sure. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe John Danks is the prospect who is a Boras client. I'm not positive though. Thomas Diamond isn't so he would have to be the pitching prospect we would get in a trade with Texas. Edited December 16, 2005 by SSH2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Id be in love with tejada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Not sure that Danks is a Boras client, I will look it up. White Sox drafted his brother, who was not in the Boras stable, and the Danks family was very impressed with the White Sox. Josh Rupe, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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