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QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 06:34 PM)
Why would we make a trade and lose some of our young talent and future of the franchise on a season we aint going anywhere anyways.  In the offseason we will have plenty of money to sign anyone we want probably 2 impact players right now im hoping Al Harrington and Nazr Mohammed.  Add that with what looks like a top 3 pick from the knicks and a middle of the road pick for us we should have some serious talent going into the 06 season.

I still think the Bulls could do some damage if they actually had a decent center in there, Hinrich and Duhon seem to have lifted their games this season, and from what we've seen Tyson is just much more suited to coming off the bench.

 

Al Harrington will definitely be in demand this off-season that's for sure. Still, it'd be interesting to see if he would play SF when you already have two SF's in Luol Deng and Nocioni, unless you trade one, or whether he would start at PF which is what he is doing now. Mohammed would be interesting, but the Bulls could choose to go after Nene instead.

 

And yes the draft will be very good for you guys (don't you think Isiah wishes he put some top 3 protection on that pick now :lol:). LaMarcus Aldrige or Andrea Bargnani are the 2 best bigs in the draft, and are slated to go top 5 right now.

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Is that the Erick Dampier / Shawn Bradley syndrome?  :D

I've never seen a guy who's 7'1" be such a pussy and try to lay up the ball instead of dunking it hard. I wish Sweetney was 7'1" and Chandler was 6'8". Chandler isn't worthy of his height because he doesn't even use it. I can't believe we traded Elton Brand for this bum. I can now see why Skiles was using Chandler off the bench last season. He doesn't even deserve to be starting.

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QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 09:35 AM)
I've never seen a guy who's 7'1" be such a pussy and try to lay up the ball instead of dunking it hard.  I wish Sweetney was 7'1" and Chandler was 6'8".  Chandler isn't worthy of his height because he doesn't even use it.  I can't believe we traded Elton Brand for this bum.  I can now see why Skiles was using Chandler off the bench last season.  He doesn't even deserve to be starting.

 

How many times does Chandler jam? Almost always its how he gets most of the very little points he does...... And Idonno if you watch defense or not but Chandler definitely uses his height on the defensive side. Yes Elton Brand is the better overall player but you really have no clue what your talking about.

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QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 03:53 AM)
How many times does Chandler jam?  Almost always its how he gets most of the very little points he does...... And Idonno if you watch defense or not but Chandler definitely uses his height on the defensive side.  Yes Elton Brand is the better overall player but you really have no clue what your talking about.

 

Chandler realistically jams one 2-5 chances he gets. He has zero composure when in the air to make his '' lay ups''... it is pretty sad/sickening actually.

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How many times does Chandler jam?  Almost always its how he gets most of the very little points he does...... And Idonno if you watch defense or not but Chandler definitely uses his height on the defensive side.  Yes Elton Brand is the better overall player but you really have no clue what your talking about.

Most of the time, I see Chandler try to tip balls in for putbacks instead of just rebounding the ball and going up hard for the dunk. When you are 7'1", that's what you should be doing.

 

And I never mentioned anything about Chandler's defense.

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Yep, but it seems like a lot of guys will have a clear path to the rim from a couple feet out, and they just won't dunk it. Sweetney is guilty of that too, but he has a great touch from within 5 to 7 feet of the rim, so he makes up for it.

 

It pisses me off too, especially when they get hammered while missing easy lay-ups. If you're a big man and you go up strong for that dunk while getting fouled, you're gonna get that basket damn near every time, plus the opportunity for a three-point play.

 

If I was GM or Team President or whatever, I'd bring someone credible in to work with Tyson on his offensive game. Maybe it's just a matter of showing him some film and pointing out that he needs to go up strong more often. I'm thinking that nobody says a god damn word to Chandler about anything when it comes to offense. Tyson is uncommonly quick for his size. If there is a 7'1 or taller player in this league who is quicker than Tyson, well, I can't think of him right now. Maybe Stromile or somebody. There is no reason why he shouldn't be dunking it 5 to 6 times per game, in addition to hitting 70% of his free throws. Get a motherf***ing tutor in here ASAP.

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QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 12:36 PM)
Tyson is uncommonly quick for his size.  If there is a 7'1 or taller player in this league who is quicker than Tyson, well, I can't think of him right now. 

 

KG comes to mind, at about an inch shorter if you're gonna get picky. Similar builds, but I'll obviously take KG as the stronger and much quicker player...not to mention him being better at every aspect of the game.

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QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 01:23 PM)
How the hell is Joel Pyrzbilla going to do anything for the Bulls.  The guys going to get a huge ass contract and doesn't deserve it as far as I'm concerned.

 

Worth it on the "Vanilla Gorilla" nickname alone... :P

 

He's probably gonna be another Dalembert, most likely more, in terms of contract.

 

We desperately need inside presence. He's obviously much stronger than anything we have at C right now and he actually blocks shots...along with the altering.

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QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 10:35 AM)
Worth it on the "Vanilla Gorilla" nickname alone...    :P

 

He's probably gonna be another Dalembert, most likely more, in terms of contract.

 

We desperately need inside presence.  He's obviously much stronger than anything we have at C right now and he actually blocks shots...along with the altering.

Dalembert is so much better than him. Dalem is a guy I'd want, too bad we can't have him. He's better than Chandler too as far as I'm concerned. At least the Tyson Chandler we've seen this year. The one that is attempting to play center.

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QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 06:23 PM)
How the hell is Joel Pyrzbilla going to do anything for the Bulls.  The guys going to get a huge ass contract and doesn't deserve it as far as I'm concerned.

 

Yeah, Joel is a good center, but god damn it's like his feet are stuck in quicksand. If you want to challenge him straight up, he'll block your shot. He's a massive dude, so he can bang with just about anybody. His rebounding instincts are above average. Just don't expect a strong defender, as his numbers would indicate. I wouldn't mind having him on the Bulls if we're talking 5 or 6 million per.

 

I usually tell people to be skeptical when looking at blocks numbers, because guys like Foyle, Przybilla, Haywood, and the current version of Alonzo Mourning have lousy foot speed & are therefore incapable of playing effective help defense. But if you challenge any one of those guys straight up, your s*** gets swatted.

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QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 05:54 PM)
KG comes to mind, at about an inch shorter if you're gonna get picky.  Similar builds, but I'll obviously take KG as the stronger and much quicker player...not to mention him being better at every aspect of the game.

 

Nope, it doesn't need to be mentioned. Garnett is one of the all time great players in NBA history. I don't think it's fair to compare him and Chandler straight up. I never pay any mind to draft day comparisons unless it helps my argument out, like in the case of Iggy and Pippen. :D

 

This guy is 7'1 with unbelievable quickness. The next KG! I hate those dumbass ESPN motherf***ers.

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QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 05:36 PM)
If there is a 7'1 or taller player in this league who is quicker than Tyson, well, I can't think of him right now.  Maybe Stromile or somebody.

 

Hey, I was coming down off of my crack high when I said this yesterday. Stromile Swift is barely 6'10. I can't find anyone at Tyson's height who even comes close in terms of quickness. Dalembert is probably the closest match.

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QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 22, 2005 -> 05:00 PM)
Hey, I was coming down off of my crack high when I said this yesterday.  Stromile Swift is barely 6'10.  I can't find anyone at Tyson's height who even comes close in terms of quickness.  Dalembert is probably the closest match.

Dude, Chandler is not that good. Face it. Quickness hasn't helped him yet. He has to breathe first.

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