SoIL Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 per Roto World: Pirates non-tendered RHP Josh Fogg. Sanity prevails! There's no way Fogg was worth $3 million, though he might be a decent enough middle reliever for some team. Fogg was the Pirates' only non-tender. Dec. 21 - 1:25 am et What would you all think of Fogg as a replacement for Vizcaino? I think it would be worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Only, if he's the last option left. He would be lit up. Baj and Traceuy could probably do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I'd rather have Baj or Tracey in the bullpen then Fogg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Fogg is a guy who's best suited to the 11th or 12th man ... a guy who can do long relief, spot start, eat some innings. I think he will sign with a team that has more opportunity for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I thought I read somewhere that Fogg in his first 3 innings of work did a pretty good job nice era but in the last 3 it was pretty disgusting. If thats the case it sounds like he has the makings of a very good reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 09:32 AM) Fogg is a guy who's best suited to the 11th or 12th man ... a guy who can do long relief, spot start, eat some innings. I think he will sign with a team that has more opportunity for him. Really? That's interesting. In my estimation, that seems exactly the type of player Kenny and company would be interested in. Assuming Garland is traded, the Sox really don't have another Brandon McCarthy to be that sixth/spot-starter of sorts. In my opinion, Fogg fits the bill. He isn't going to dazzle anyone, but, he wouldn't have to. If he could be had for a resonable contract--presumably 1-2 years at the $1.2-$1.5M mark--I would think he'd draw some interest from his former team. I'm thinking--and, again, I could be way off--Kenny will bring in one of our two remaining bullpen spots via free agency or trade and let the youngsters--that is, Reynoso, Tracey, Munoz, Bajenaru, etc.--compete for that final vacancy. You sign/trade for the lefty and let the righties compete. You sign/trade for the righty and let the lefties compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 He is a good depth guy for someone, not much more. The Pirates gave up on him as a starter. I would agree though, his future is in the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I'd take Fogg over Baj. However, Fogg will probably make more money than the Sox are willing to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 09:41 AM) I'd take Fogg over Baj. However, Fogg will probably make more money than the Sox are willing to pay. I believe he also would be better than Baj, but probably would demand alot more cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I honestly think that some team out there will sign Fogg as a fifth starter. I'd rather have Chad Bradford. He owns righties with that sidearm delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 10:38 AM) Really? That's interesting. In my estimation, that seems exactly the type of player Kenny and company would be interested in. Assuming Garland is traded, the Sox really don't have another Brandon McCarthy to be that sixth/spot-starter of sorts. In my opinion, Fogg fits the bill. He isn't going to dazzle anyone, but, he wouldn't have to. If he could be had for a resonable contract--presumably 1-2 years at the $1.2-$1.5M mark--I would think he'd draw some interest from his former team. I'm thinking--and, again, I could be way off--Kenny will bring in one of our two remaining bullpen spots via free agency or trade and let the youngsters--that is, Reynoso, Tracey, Munoz, Bajenaru, etc.--compete for that final vacancy. You sign/trade for the lefty and let the righties compete. You sign/trade for the righty and let the lefties compete. I completely agree with you. I would if he complies make a serious inquiry to sign him. He could be your long man in the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 02:32 PM) I completely agree with you. I would if he complies make a serious inquiry to sign him. He could be your long man in the pen. Bingo. Glad to see we're back on the same page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Kind of like a Sean Lowe type? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoIL Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 03:56 PM) Kind of like a Sean Lowe type? That's what I was thinking. Depending on the cost, why not try it?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 He could not possibly be worse than Jon Adkins who I saw we non-tendered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Home come Fogg is so inconsistent? He had a few good games and some where he was horrid. I wouldn't mind us picking him back up as you say to replace Viz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Defending World Champs do not pick up the Josh Foggs of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Why not Irish? He has had some amazing games to go with some totally horsecrap outings. What makes him different from a Viz? We had Viz all last year. Fogg arguably is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Fogg could turn into a solid reliever, but Viz is hands down a better reliever than Fogg. Despite what some people say about Viz, the guy had a total rubber arm and pitched very very good in the 2nd half of the season with the Sox. The harder he was worked the better he pitched. Fogg doesn't have that sort of resilient arm and I've yet to see him put up good numbers out of the pen. Plus Fogg isn't any more attractive than Sean Tracey or Baj, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 09:08 AM) Fogg could turn into a solid reliever, but Viz is hands down a better reliever than Fogg. Despite what some people say about Viz, the guy had a total rubber arm and pitched very very good in the 2nd half of the season with the Sox. The harder he was worked the better he pitched. Fogg doesn't have that sort of resilient arm and I've yet to see him put up good numbers out of the pen. Plus Fogg isn't any more attractive than Sean Tracey or Baj, imo. Lets not be a homer ok ... He might not be as good as Vizcaino was in the 2nd half of the season but he is a much better option than Tracey or Baj and he would be the 6th starter incase one of the starting 5 go down.(assuming we trade one of the 6 we currently have). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 05:57 AM) Lets not be a homer ok ... He might not be as good as Vizcaino was in the 2nd half of the season but he is a much better option than Tracey or Baj and he would be the 6th starter incase one of the starting 5 go down.(assuming we trade one of the 6 we currently have). Exactly. I couldn't agree with you more. He is a much, much better option than anything the White Sox have in the farm system and is a perfect fit for the long-man/spot/sixth-starter role. What seperates him from Tracey or the Prodigal Son is having pitched in the MLB for five or six years. He is really fantastic in his first three innings of work and then begins to trail off. I think he'd be a very nice signing for the right price--maybe one or two years at $1.4M or so. I hope the Sox organization at least inquires about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Fogg wouldn't be bad out of the bullpen, and it would be nice to hear the foghorn at USCF again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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