RME JICO Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 What about Byrnes as a replacement for Perez, and Bradford as a replacement for Viz if the price is right? STARTERS ---------------------------- RHP Kurt Ainsworth (BAL) RHP Cha Seung Baek (SEA) RHP Dewon Brazelton (SD) RHP Josh Fogg (PIT) RHP Ryan Franklin (SEA) RHP Wade Miller (BOS) RHP Wes Obermueller (ATL) RHP Ramon Ortiz (CIN) RELIEVERS ---------------------------- RHP Jose Acevedo (COL) RHP Jon Adkins (CHW) RHP Grant Balfour (MIN) RHP Jeff Bennett (MIL) RHP Chad Bradford (BOS) RHP Joe Borowski (TB) LHP Craig Breslow (SD) RHP Jim Brower (ATL) RHP Shawn Camp (KC) RHP Felix Diaz (CHW) RHP Jose Diaz (CLE) LHP Wayne Franklin (NYY) RHP Dan Kolb (MIL) RHP Mike Lincoln (STL) LHP Trever Miller (TB) RHP Nick Reglio (TEX) RHP Eddy Rodriguez (BAL) RHP Joe Valentine (CIN) RHP Tyler Yates (NYM) CATCHERS ---------------------------- Pete LaForest (SD) Mike Mahoney (STL) Jason Phillips (LAD) Mike Rose (TB) Miguel Olivo (SD) FIRST BASEMEN ---------------------------- Ken Harvey (KC) Brian Myrow (LAD) SECOND BASEMEN ---------------------------- Willie Harris (CHW) Bo Hart (STL) Junior Spivey (WAS) THIRD BASEMEN ---------------------------- Joe Dillon (FLA) Scott Seabol (STL) Rick Short (WAS) OUTFIELDERS ---------------------------- Hiram Bocachica (OAK) Eric Byrnes (BAL) Endy Chavez (PHI) Mike Edwards (LAD) Alex Escobar (WAS) Wayne Lydon (NYM) Timo Perez (CHW) Ryan Spilborghs (COL) Jamal Strong (SEA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I thought Olivo was supposed to be the man in SD? Has he fallen out of favor already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 (edited) I think Chad Bradford would be a great replacement for Vizcaino. Bradford owns righties with his nasty delivery. Lefties rope him but they did the same to Vizcaino. He probably wouldn't cost too much and will likely have a better season than Vizcaino. Maybe try Trever Miller as a second lefty. Edited December 21, 2005 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 (edited) I could see the Dodgers Adding Wade Miller to their Rotation. as far as the WhiteSox.. I can't see them going after anyone other than RP help.. which is Slim to none. Edited December 21, 2005 by AnthraxFan93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 04:50 PM) I could see the Dodgers Adding Wade Miller to their Rotation. Miller had another surgery. He's such a health risk that teams can't count on him to be in their rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Anyone have any idea why some teams make trades and then non-tender the players they receive? For example, Atlanta traded Dan Kolb to Milwaukee for Wes Obermueller and then both players were non-tendered. What is the benefit to each team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Here's the non-tender list broken down by teams: http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article...e2005&fext=.jsp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Miller had another surgery. He's such a health risk that teams can't count on him to be in their rotation. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Did not know that.. Thanks for the update.. I say the Yankees sign him then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam G Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 10:47 AM) I thought Olivo was supposed to be the man in SD? Has he fallen out of favor already? Olivo only played 37 games in San Diego last year. Ramon Hernandez is their guy. I'd like to see an offer tendered to Joe Borowski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(Adam G @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 10:57 AM) Olivo only played 37 games in San Diego last year. Ramon Hernandez is their guy. I'd like to see an offer tendered to Joe Borowski. Ummm, didnt Hernandez sign with another team........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(heirdog @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 11:53 AM) Anyone have any idea why some teams make trades and then non-tender the players they receive? For example, Atlanta traded Dan Kolb to Milwaukee for Wes Obermueller and then both players were non-tendered. What is the benefit to each team? Good question, I didn't even notice that. I guess there might have been some type of stipulation in their contracts that the trade would negate, then both teams could just non-tender them without paying money out of their pockets. Also, they may be trying to pick them up at a lower price as an FA instead of tendering them a deal that they turn down anyway. Those are my two guesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 BTW, does anyone remember when everyone was creaming in their pants about Bo Hart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(Adam G @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 11:57 AM) Olivo only played 37 games in San Diego last year. Ramon Hernandez is their guy. I'd like to see an offer tendered to Joe Borowski. Hernandez just signed with the Orioles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 There are a couple of interesting names on there. Bradford and Trever Miller are obvious possibilities, I also like Jamal Strong. I don't know what Alex Escobar's story is (another injury?) but remember KW liked him before. They could use some minor league OF depth and insurance in case someone is injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 11:02 AM) Hernandez just signed with the Orioles. 2 posts too late my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 DeWon Brazleton. Lock him up Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 (edited) There are a couple of interesting names on there. Bradford and Trever Miller are obvious possibilities, I also like Jamal Strong. I don't know what Alex Escobar's story is (another injury?) but remember KW liked him before. They could use some minor league OF depth and insurance in case someone is injured. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would be happy with both Bradford and Miller on cheap deals. Wasn't Jamal Strong busted for steroids? Yep, here it is... http://seattle.mariners.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...t=.jsp&c_id=sea Edited December 21, 2005 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 01:02 PM) There are a couple of interesting names on there. Bradford and Trever Miller are obvious possibilities, I also like Jamal Strong. I don't know what Alex Escobar's story is (another injury?) but remember KW liked him before. They could use some minor league OF depth and insurance in case someone is injured. If KW picks up Alex Escobar, then the Everett/Alomar-type jokes will start about how he continually picks up Escobar and then trades him for bona fide prospects. :headshake I think Dan Kolb would be a nice addition, especially if Hermy is slow to recover from his back. I think Hermy and Politte are solid set-up men but Politte has been inconsistent over the years so if he struggles, we have Kolb who has also closed games in the past. This is the type of reliever that KW went after last year (ones that had closing experience...a sign of mental toughness?) so I could see him calling Kolb's agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 12:04 PM) 2 posts too late my friend pshh, you didnt even say what team he signed with. Thread cop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam G Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) Ummm, didnt Hernandez sign with another team........ Guess so :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 DeWon Brazleton. Lock him up Kenny. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That should be in green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(heirdog @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 12:07 PM) I think Dan Kolb would be a nice addition, especially if Hermy is slow to recover from his back. I think Hermy and Politte are solid set-up men but Politte has been inconsistent over the years so if he struggles, we have Kolb who has also closed games in the past. This is the type of reliever that KW went after last year (ones that had closing experience...a sign of mental toughness?) so I could see him calling Kolb's agent. Kolbs mental toughness and closing ability flew out the window on the trip down to Atlanta last year. Maybe Coop could figure him out. Maybe he is Billy Koch redux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 01:09 PM) That should be in green There is history here as well with young, high pick pitching prospects (i.e. Jason Grilli) being given a chance to compete in spring training. I think the way someone has operated in the past is a very telling indicator for how they will operate in the future. So with KW's history of taking chances on supposed can't miss pitching prospects, you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 01:10 PM) Kolbs mental toughness and closing ability flew out the window on the trip down to Atlanta last year. Maybe Coop could figure him out. Maybe he is Billy Koch redux. True. He struggled in Atlanta but he did a little better in the set up role after Reitsma and then Farnsworth became the closers. But look at how many closers struggled last year (Looper, Foulke, etc.) and there will be more this year (Jenks?) so it doesn't hurt to have a bullpen of set-up men that also have closed in the past instead of trying to break someone into the role. Also, Politte struggled after showing promise as a closer in Toronto and has been a solid set-up man. I think Kolb is definitely worth a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWs OK for Me Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 QUOTE(heirdog @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 12:14 PM) True. He struggled in Atlanta but he did a little better in the set up role after Reitsma and then Farnsworth became the closers. But look at how many closers struggled last year (Looper, Foulke, etc.) and there will be more this year (Jenks?) so it doesn't hurt to have a bullpen of set-up men that also have closed in the past instead of trying to break someone into the role. Also, Politte struggled after showing promise as a closer in Toronto and has been a solid set-up man. I think Kolb is definitely worth a look. Two syllables for you Bor ASS Enough Said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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