FlaCWS Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I was on record saying I was against trading Marte - nothing against Makiowack (butchered spelling, I know), who is a very good player - I just hate giving up a young, hard-throwing lefty just because he had one sub-par year (ok, maybe one and a half). I think we have a good one in Cotts, but I'd feel much better if we had another lefty in there to replace Marte. The pickings are slim in free agency so I'm wondering if we have anyone at AA or AAA who might be a good candidate. I don't follow the minor leagues that closely so I'm wondering if anyone can tell me whether we have someone already in-house who could potentially fill the role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 QUOTE(FlaCWS @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 10:07 PM) I was on record saying I was against trading Marte - nothing against Makiowack (butchered spelling, I know), who is a very good player - I just hate giving up a young, hard-throwing lefty just because he had one sub-par year (ok, maybe one and a half). I think we have a good one in Cotts, but I'd feel much better if we had another lefty in there to replace Marte. The pickings are slim in free agency so I'm wondering if we have anyone at AA or AAA who might be a good candidate. I don't follow the minor leagues that closely so I'm wondering if anyone can tell me whether we have someone already in-house who could potentially fill the role. No we will get another lefty via trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(FlaCWS @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 09:07 PM) I was on record saying I was against trading Marte - nothing against Makiowack (butchered spelling, I know), who is a very good player - I just hate giving up a young, hard-throwing lefty just because he had one sub-par year (ok, maybe one and a half). I think we have a good one in Cotts, but I'd feel much better if we had another lefty in there to replace Marte. The pickings are slim in free agency so I'm wondering if we have anyone at AA or AAA who might be a good candidate. I don't follow the minor leagues that closely so I'm wondering if anyone can tell me whether we have someone already in-house who could potentially fill the role. Damaso will be 31 by the time the season starts, so while he's not old he's certainly not young. He sucked last year, and started to decline in 04, I'm thrilled to have got rid of him. He's a headcase, his mechanics are f***ed, he's giving away his slider and he just can't throw strikes anymore. He's finished imo. Edited December 22, 2005 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaCWS Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 09:10 PM) No we will get another lefty via trade. That's just it. No one is trading a good lefty unless they get a lot in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I could care less if we get another lefty reliever. I'd rather just get quality arms for our bullpen, righty or lefty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 10:26 PM) I could care less if we get another lefty reliever. I'd rather just get quality arms for our bullpen, righty or lefty. yeah, the whole lefty vs. lefty, righty vs. righty thing is a tad overrated. however, having insurance in case cotts gets hurt would be sexy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 We really have zero in-house candidates, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 QUOTE(FlaCWS @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 10:07 PM) I was on record saying I was against trading Marte - nothing against Makiowack (butchered spelling, I know), who is a very good player - I just hate giving up a young, hard-throwing lefty just because he had one sub-par year (ok, maybe one and a half). I think we have a good one in Cotts, but I'd feel much better if we had another lefty in there to replace Marte. The pickings are slim in free agency so I'm wondering if we have anyone at AA or AAA who might be a good candidate. I don't follow the minor leagues that closely so I'm wondering if anyone can tell me whether we have someone already in-house who could potentially fill the role. If its a hard-throwing lefty you want, there's always John Rocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 It's sad cause I still believe Cotts can be a very good starter for years to come but we have so many starters that the bullpen will probably be his future job even though thats not bad at all. There are some lefties available but I don't mind someone in our system or just Cotts being the only lefty. I believe LAA didn't have one lefty in their bullpen throughout the season or the playoffs so that's how much they think about their bullpen when they have some great studs down there who are nasty against any lefty or righty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 ARNIE MUNOZ. Why not give him a shot. They gave Neal a shot and look how that has turned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierzynski 12 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 ARNIE MUNOZ. Why not give him a shot. They gave Neal a shot and look how that has turned out. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yea,but i don't know if Munoz will turn out to be like Cotts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 10:40 PM) ARNIE MUNOZ. Why not give him a shot. They gave Neal a shot and look how that has turned out. QUOTE(Pierzynski 12 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 10:42 PM) Yea,but i don't know if Munoz will turn out to be like Cotts. He won't. Asking for two left-handed starters to turn into two of the best setup men in baseball is redonkulous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 10:45 PM) He won't. Asking for two left-handed starters to turn into two of the best setup men in baseball is redonkulous. never said he would but you never know. Chances are he makes it anyways. Ozzie loves the matchups. Would you of said Neal Cotts is going to be one of the best setup men in baseball before 2005? No you wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 10:51 PM) never said he would but you never know. Chances are he makes it anyways. Ozzie loves the matchups. Would you of said Neal Cotts is going to be one of the best setup men in baseball before 2005? No you wouldn't. Would I have said he'd be a good pitcher? Yes. He has more potential than Arnie ever had. I'd love for Muñoz to get a shot, but I fear we'd be in really bad shape if he starts the year in Chicago. Let's just hope we have a better option in place by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 21, 2005 -> 08:51 PM) never said he would but you never know. Chances are he makes it anyways. Ozzie loves the matchups. Would you of said Neal Cotts is going to be one of the best setup men in baseball before 2005? No you wouldn't. Ya, I'd have said that about Cotts. In fact I have said it about him in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I personally think we only need 1 good lefty reliever. We have that in Cotts. If KW decides to keep Jon G. (doubtful) McCarthy will fill Vizcaino's void and IMO Baj will take Marte's spot. This team just might be set for the 2006 season. Bench: Widger, Borchard, Ozuna, Mackowiak, Gload Relievers: Jenks, Hermy, Politte, Cotts, Baj, McCarthy Rotation: Buerhle, Contreras, Garland, Garcia, Vazquez (assuming Jon G stays) Starting lineup: Pods, Uribe, Thome, Konerko, Dye, Gooch, AJ, Crede, Anderson Can we repeat with this roster: HELL YEAH! Like I said this is assuming we keep Jon G for the 2006 campaign. If we ship Jon G. than it will be for a reliever and prospects and McCarthy will fill his void in the rotation. Can we repeat w/o Jon G? I think so- McCarthy needs to show us that he is ready for a full season, if he does than playoffs here we come again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 22, 2005 -> 03:51 PM) never said he would but you never know. Chances are he makes it anyways. Ozzie loves the matchups. Would you of said Neal Cotts is going to be one of the best setup men in baseball before 2005? No you wouldn't. Remember Neal Cotts in 2004? That would be what Arnie Munoz would be like in 2006 most likely if he was in our bullpen. And don't forget, Cotts in the 1st month and a half, 3/4'ers of Soxtalk (you know who you are) wanted him gone. SAYONARA. But you know what happened. He made a simple adjustment, and the rest is history. But those 1/4 of the Soxtalk population who knew Cotts had that potential, stuck by him. Don't forget Munoz was a starter down at Charlotte in 2005, and did NOT have good numbers down there at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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