Chisoxfn Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 11:06 AM) Personally, I'd rather the Bulls made a run at Big Ben this offseason instead of Peja (think of the defense with Ben & Chandler in the same lineup) but that's just me. Id tend to agree with you. I think we need a dominate center and while Big Ben will cost a lot and will probably turn into a bad contract in the latter years. The guy is a defensive force at center and would give the Bulls enough of a presence. We'd be able to slide Sweet in for 25-30 minutes (I expect him to be in better shape) and that would be enough of a low post presence to go along with two defensive big men in Ben Wall and Tyson. However, I'm more than willing to deal Ben Gordon for something this off-season, even if it means packaging him with someone else. I think the Bulls are going to look quite a bit different next year. There are some players I demand we keep: Kirk Hinrich, Luol Deng and unless we get a good offer I really would like Duhon coming off the bench. If we go after Peja than I'd like to have a bigger lineup with Kirk, Deng, Peja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 12:48 PM) I also read somewhere that the Bulls were talking to Petrie about a Deng/Thomas for Stojakovic/Thomas deal. :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 11:12 AM) :puke Who the hell is the Thomas on the Kings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 01:13 PM) Who the hell is the Thomas on the Kings? Kenny Thomas. This team isn't going anywhere with or without Peja, it would be absolutely retarded to trade Deng when Peja is a fa after this season imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 07:10 PM) Id tend to agree with you. I think we need a dominate center and while Big Ben will cost a lot and will probably turn into a bad contract in the latter years. The guy is a defensive force at center and would give the Bulls enough of a presence. We'd be able to slide Sweet in for 25-30 minutes (I expect him to be in better shape) and that would be enough of a low post presence to go along with two defensive big men in Ben Wall and Tyson. I would literally cream my shorts. And if we were to trade Ben Gordon, I'd run circles around Wrigley Field in the nude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 11:19 AM) I would literally cream my shorts. And if we were to trade Ben Gordon, I'd run circles around Wrigley Field in the nude. Get Ben Wall, than you still have some money to go out and replace Big Ben (plus the draft picks). Hell, you may be able to put together a package with Gordon, some free payroll that we have and a draft pick for a pretty damn good small forward or guard (with Deng playing the other position) and Noc coming off the bench, along with Duhon and we'd still have at least one draft pick to find another wing player to help us off the bench. That said there is probably a 30% chance that Detroit wins it all this year and I don't think they are just going to let Ben Wall go (plus they can offer him more money than anyone else). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Its kinda ironic the Bulls could end up with the top pick in the draft with Oden coming out of HS, who would have been the top pick... Now he has to go to college for a year, and they will most likely miss out him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 23, 2005 Author Share Posted December 23, 2005 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 10:06 AM) Has there been a draft class that hasn't been described as "Weak" since the turn of the century other than the one with Lebron, Melo, Wade, & Kirk? Sure, last year was very deep. Hell, the year before too. This year? Literally is gonna be one of the worst ever after the first 3-5 picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 The Bulls get waxed for the second time in less than a week by the Cavs. Thank god we've got that Knicks pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 23, 2005 -> 12:50 PM) There was a threas a while back that discussed Stojakovic to the Bulls. Someone posted an articles talking about the connections between Stojakovic and Skiles and how Paxson said he would go after him or something along those lines. That's nothing but speculation. If Pax said that, it would be considered tampering. I know Stojakovic played for Skiles in Europe, but it's not happening. That's why the rumors have started with him and the Bulls. Nothing solid though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Dec 26, 2005 -> 09:35 PM) The Bulls get waxed for the second time in less than a week by the Cavs. Thank god we've got that Knicks pick. Well, I wouldn't be that excited just yet...as has been mentioned, this draft is considered weak, weaker than 2000...and we all know how that worked out after we ended up with two of the top four players... Edited December 27, 2005 by SleepyWhiteSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Dec 26, 2005 -> 10:39 PM) Well, I wouldn't be that excited just yet...as has been mentioned, this draft is considered weak, weaker than 2000...and we all know how that worked out after we ended up with two of the top four players... The draft isn't weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 26, 2005 -> 11:50 PM) The draft isn't weak. Most people see it as weak...I'd still rather wait to form an opinion of it. I actually have not really heard it not called weak, and so far I tend to agree. So who are all of these proven, solid players you're aware of?...International players are always question marks and I'm not all that excited by a josh boone or shelden williams...What if Pax pulls a Hinrich and goes for someone similar to himself again in reddick? Like I said, still too early for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Sheldon Williams would be a God send to this Bulls team right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 27, 2005 Author Share Posted December 27, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 26, 2005 -> 10:50 PM) The draft isn't weak. Haha... this draft drops off so damn bad after the first 3-5 guys it is not funny. It is neither loaded up front and is most definitely not deep with nba type players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Lose by 13 to the f***ing Bobcats? Yay for reaching complete joke status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Wow, I didn't think they would be this bad. I don't even know what to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Dec 28, 2005 -> 10:10 PM) Lose by 13 to the f***ing Bobcats? Yay for reaching complete joke status. No s***. Same script, they mail it in about midway through the 3rd quarter. And not only do they lose, but they look like 8th grade players when they are doing it. The first 8 minutes of the 4th quarter were absolutely pathetic. Tyson traveling, Gordon jacking, Kirk throwing them away, Deng stepping on the sideline while shooting a three, Sweetney getting called for a foul that he didnt commit, then committing a stupid foul 3 seconds later, Pargo throwing away an inbounds, getting another chance on a delay of game and immediately throwing it away again, Nocioni getting an offensive foul, you name it, they f***ing did it. Absolutely pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Wow can I actually say with confidence that I expect Orlando to have a better record than the Bulls now? But with the way the Knicks played today, if Eddy Curry keeps getting injured, you guys have got the #1 pick, unless Larry Brown can actually get things figured out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Geesh, when I said I saw them winning about 35 games and taking a step backwards, I didn't realize I was being optimistic. There is no heart out there at all right now, these bastards are back to playing for moral victories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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