ChWRoCk2 Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 Havent seen any NBA discussion threads and as the football season ends the site could use one so here it is. Go Bulls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 NBA talk doesn't get much play here, especially since there are Bulls game threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 This would've been a good idea 10 years ago or so. But the NBA is kinda garbage now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 So yeah Greasy, remember that Artest for Francis trade? Can we please do that right about now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 Haha, I hope not. The Pacers aren't doing so bad since Artest has been on the inactive list. I hope we can get a nice plug-in, and the Pacers will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Dec 26, 2005 -> 02:38 AM) Haha, I hope not. The Pacers aren't doing so bad since Artest has been on the inactive list. I hope we can get a nice plug-in, and the Pacers will be fine. How bout Grant Hill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 25, 2005 -> 06:28 PM) How bout Grant Hill? He's been on the floor less than Artest has been the past two seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 (edited) I did a search on Marcus Camby at basketballboards.net, and I came across this absolute gem of a thread. Camby Breaks His Finger If you thought that the Shawn Kemp and Karl Malone rumors were pure comedy, wait until you read this. QUOTE(Nuggetsfan @ Dec 26, 2005 -> 01:21 AM) I'm still bumming over this. Camby was playing such great ball this year. It's so unfortunate. We have to get another Big for our front line, and Artest. QUOTE(Nuggetsfan @ Dec 26, 2005 -> 01:21 AM) id go el cheapo, Kendrick Perkins. And bring up Marcus Fizer QUOTE(Nuggetsfan @ Dec 26, 2005 -> 01:21 AM) Yep good idea. I believe Horax has been big on bring up Fizer as well. I'm not much of a fan of the guy. However right now Najera needs someone else to help. To bad Melo wasn't more of a board crasher. QUOTE(Nuggetsfan @ Dec 26, 2005 -> 01:21 AM) fizer can rebound and score QUOTE(Nuggetsfan @ Dec 26, 2005 -> 01:21 AM) Do you know how tall he is ? He reminds me of a Najera size big shoulders. QUOTE(Nuggetsfan @ Dec 26, 2005 -> 01:21 AM) legit 6'8. he wont block shots, but he is a beast. nba career never took off because the coach that discovered him ruined him. Fizer (the son of Tim Floyd's mom's maid) was discovered in Lousiana by Tim Floyd. Later was a high school all american and played in the mcdonalds all american game (with Ron Artest). Floyd said he wouldnt draft Fizer. Which is exactly what he did. Fizer played for Floyd at Iowa State. Floyd had Brand at PF and wanted Fizer to play SF for the bulls. Fizer is a physical beast and too big to play SF. He is capable and has scored 30 plus points in an nba game. Will score in the post. get to the basket. will draw fouls. nose for the ball. rebounds well. was a candidate for 6th man of the year. despite limited time and sometimes playing out of position. He just needs to be healthy and get extended minutes at the four spot. QUOTE(Nuggetsfan @ Dec 26, 2005 -> 01:21 AM) Interesting background story regarding him. Didn't know about all that. Thanks for sharing that nbanotiall. Now I hope the Nuggets are going to take a serious look at the guy. No way will Fizer give us what Camby was doing, but he would be a big help. QUOTE(Nuggetsfan @ Dec 26, 2005 -> 01:21 AM) fizer is destroying the opposition in the D League. IN just over 30 minutes per game. Its only a matter of time before someone calls him up. why not us? Edited December 29, 2005 by hammerhead johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 camby is a lock for the IL ever year...sad really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Hey, an admin should pin this. There's a lot of stuff that I don't post because it's not worth creating a thread for. I'm sure that plenty of other basketball heads on here could say the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 12:42 PM) Hey, an admin should pin this. There's a lot of stuff that I don't post because it's not worth creating a thread for. I'm sure that plenty of other basketball heads on here could say the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 12:42 PM) Hey, an admin should pin this. There's a lot of stuff that I don't post because it's not worth creating a thread for. I'm sure that plenty of other basketball heads on here could say the same. ^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Lebron is a beast. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 J-Rich went nuts for 36 points last night against the Celts. He just didn't miss; I never realized he had that good a jump shot. It was pretty amazing to watch, even Heinson was heaping praise on him. Unfortunately in meant Golden State pulled out the win. Also, Ike Diogu is a good player but he's too aggressive to stay on the floor. He pushes and elbows and gets called more often than not. And Adonal Foyle wasn't totally useless, he actually had some life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Heh. Marcus Fizer. There's no reason that name should mean anything to anyone outside of the Iowa State fanbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE(Spiff @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 08:08 PM) J-Rich went nuts for 36 points last night against the Celts. He just didn't miss; I never realized he had that good a jump shot. It was pretty amazing to watch, even Heinson was heaping praise on him. Unfortunately in meant Golden State pulled out the win. Also, Ike Diogu is a good player but he's too aggressive to stay on the floor. He pushes and elbows and gets called more often than not. And Adonal Foyle wasn't totally useless, he actually had some life. Yeah, I wasn't so sure at the time but richardson is the only one worthy of the contracts golden state has been handing out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 01:44 PM) Yeah, I wasn't so sure at the time but richardson is the only one worthy of the contracts golden state has been handing out... It's just too bad for Mickael Pietrus that J-Rich is in front of him. If I'm Indiana or Denver, they should probably be trying to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 (edited) Top 20 In Assist-To-Turnover Ratio w/ a minimum of 20 GP 1. Chauncey Billups 4.73 to 1.00 2. Brevin Knight 4.58 to 1.00 3. Eric Snow 4.03 to 1.00 4. Carlos Arroyo 3.70 to 1.00 5. Chris Duhon 3.65 to 1.00 6. Luke Ridnour 3.46 to 1.00 7. Ricky Davis 3.44 to 1.00 8. Baron Davis 3.25 to 1.00 9. Jason Kidd 3.13 to 1.00 10. Sam Cassell 3.06 to 1.00 11. Chris Paul 3.00 to 1.00 12. Jose Calderon 2.88 to 1.00 13. Marko Jaric 2.86 to 1.00 14. Andre Miller 2.69 to 1.00 15. Steve Nash 2.62 to 1.00 16. Boris Diaw 2.62 to 1.00 17. TJ Ford 2.60 to 1.00 18. Jarrett Jack 2.53 to 1.00 19. Kirk Hinrich 2.52 to 1.00 20. Raymond Felton 2.45 to 1.00 A few things: Who would have thought that Ricky Davis would be in the Top 10? That's f***ing crazy. I don't know what Flip Saunders is doing over there in Detroit, but god damn, two players in the Top 5? Chauncey is flourishing like it's nobody's business. I thought that Raymond Felton was supposed to get the bulk of the minutes for the Bobcats this year. Otherwise, I'd have drafted Brevin Knight in my fantasy league without hesitation. Allen Iverson barely missed the Top 20 with a 2.39 to 1.00 ratio. He might be 7th in the league in assists, but way too many of his passes are of the dumbass variety. Steve Nash is turning the ball over WAY too much. 2.62 to 1.00 is a crappy ratio for someone who is leading the league in assists. Hell, before tonight is over, Boris Diaw could have the best Assist-To-Turnover ratio on that team. Troy Hudson is taking away too many minutes from Marko Jaric. Otherwise, you'd be hearing about Marko a lot more. I know that he's a below average defender, but Troy Hudson is the worst defensive PG in the league. He is painful to watch. There's no reason why Jaric shouldn't be getting 30 to 35 minutes every night. Boy, the Hawks could use Chris Paul right about now. Joe Johnson is sporting a 1.72 to 1.00 turnover ratio, which is pretty much crap. Where's Stevie Franchise? Where's Starbury? They're busy sucking it up, as usual. Here are the 5 most entertaining Assist-To Turnover ratios IMO: 1. Ben Gordon 1.08 to 1.00 2. Stephon Marbury 1.53 to 1.00 3. Steve Francis 1.84 to 1.00 4. Joe "The Experiment" Johnson 1.72 to 1.00 5. Lebron James 1.66 to 1.00 In fairness to Lebron, he goes out and singlehandedly beats teams, so I'll let him off the hook. There is no question that he is turning the ball over way too much, though. Edited December 30, 2005 by hammerhead johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 02:50 PM) Top 20 In Assist-To-Turnover Ratio w/ a minimum of 20 GP 1. Chauncey Billups 4.73 to 1.00 2. Brevin Knight 4.58 to 1.00 3. Eric Snow 4.03 to 1.00 4. Carlos Arroyo 3.70 to 1.00 5. Chris Duhon 3.65 to 1.00 6. Luke Ridnour 3.46 to 1.00 7. Ricky Davis 3.44 to 1.00 8. Baron Davis 3.25 to 1.00 9. Jason Kidd 3.13 to 1.00 10. Sam Cassell 3.06 to 1.00 11. Chris Paul 3.00 to 1.00 12. Jose Calderon 2.88 to 1.00 13. Marko Jaric 2.86 to 1.00 14. Andre Miller 2.69 to 1.00 15. Steve Nash 2.62 to 1.00 16. Boris Diaw 2.62 to 1.00 17. TJ Ford 2.60 to 1.00 18. Jarrett Jack 2.53 to 1.00 19. Kirk Hinrich 2.52 to 1.00 20. Raymond Felton 2.45 to 1.00 A few things: Who would have thought that Ricky Davis would be in the Top 10? That's f***ing crazy. I don't know what Flip Saunders is doing over there in Detroit, but god damn, two players in the Top 5? Chauncey is flourishing like it's nobody's business. I thought that Raymond Felton was supposed to get the bulk of the minutes for the Bobcats this year. Otherwise, I'd have drafted Brevin Knight in my fantasy league without hesitation. Allen Iverson barely missed the Top 20 with a 2.39 to 1.00 ratio. He might be 7th in the league in assists, but way too many of his passes are of the dumbass variety. Steve Nash is turning the ball over WAY too much. 2.62 to 1.00 is a crappy ratio for someone who is leading the league in assists. Hell, before tonight is over, Boris Diaw could have the best Assist-To-Turnover ratio on that team. Troy Hudson is taking away too many minutes from Marko Jaric. Otherwise, you'd be hearing about Marko a lot more. I know that he's a below average defender, but Troy Hudson is the worst defensive PG in the league. He is painful to watch. There's no reason why Jaric shouldn't be getting 30 to 35 minutes every night. Boy, the Hawks could use Chris Paul right about now. Joe Johnson is sporting a 1.72 to 1.00 turnover ratio, which is pretty much crap. Where's Stevie Franchise? Where's Starbury? They're busy sucking it up, as usual. Here are the 5 most entertaining Assist-To Turnover ratios IMO: 1. Ben Gordon 1.08 to 1.00 2. Stephon Marbury 1.53 to 1.00 3. Steve Francis 1.84 to 1.00 4. Joe "The Experiment" Johnson 1.72 to 1.00 5. Lebron James 1.66 to 1.00 In fairness to Lebron, he goes out and singlehandedly beats teams, so I'll let him off the hook. There is no question that he is turning the ball over way too much, though. Chauncey billups is the mvp of the league this year especially if nash won it last year. I do not think they are even in the same league if you compare the seasons. Billups is such a damn joy to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 08:54 PM) Chauncey billups is the mvp of the league this year especially if nash won it last year. I do not think they are even in the same league if you compare the seasons. Billups is such a damn joy to watch. That guy is a 4th quarter monster. When the game is on the line, he doesn't miss free throws, and he doesn't turn it over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Is Ben Gordon one of the worse/overhyped players in the league. I think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 05:27 PM) Is Ben Gordon one of the worse/overhyped players in the league. I think so. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 10:27 AM) Is Ben Gordon one of the worse/overhyped players in the league. I think so. I'll give you Mario Kasun for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 04:23 PM) I'll give you Mario Kasun for him. I'd take a 1st rounder for him. Or package him and Tim Thomas cause I still think you could get something worthwhile for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 12:52 PM) I'd take a 1st rounder for him. Or package him and Tim Thomas cause I still think you could get something worthwhile for them. I think if Denver can't get Flip Murray, they'd have serious interest in Ben, but I don't know what they would give up besides Nene or Earl Watson. Maybe a team like Charlotte who don't have a bonafide good SG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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