Chisoxfn Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 05:56 PM) I think if Denver can't get Flip Murray, they'd have serious interest in Ben, but I don't know what they would give up besides Nene or Earl Watson. Maybe a team like Charlotte who don't have a bonafide good SG? Nene is out for how long (I thought it was the season but maybe I'm wrong??). But I know the Bulls have interest in Nene so I don't know if them getting them now would help there chances at getting him the next couple years. He would fit in nicely here though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 01:02 PM) Nene is out for how long (I thought it was the season but maybe I'm wrong??). But I know the Bulls have interest in Nene so I don't know if them getting them now would help there chances at getting him the next couple years. He would fit in nicely here though. Yeah he's an UFA at the end of the season IIRC. So I don't know if you traded for him it would help your chances of re-signing him. Still I'd love to have him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 03:50 PM) I don't know what Flip Saunders is doing over there in Detroit, but god damn, two players in the Top 5? Chauncey is flourishing like it's nobody's business. Misleading. arroyo plays about 13 minutes per. Billups is good, but I just don't like the pistons. QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 03:50 PM) I thought that Raymond Felton was supposed to get the bulk of the minutes for the Bobcats this year. Otherwise, I'd have drafted Brevin Knight in my fantasy league without hesitation. Supposedly they're bringing him along slowly and he has been starting with rush out... QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 03:50 PM) Boy, the Hawks could use Chris Paul right about now. Joe Johnson is sporting a 1.72 to 1.00 turnover ratio, which is pretty much crap. Chris Paul=ROY Joe Johnson showed the previous year he really wasn't meant to be a PG. Still a solid player. I equate that signing to the detroit tigers having to overpay for players since detroit isn't a premier MLB destination. Same with Atl. It's tough to even see what marvin can do with Harrington quietly having himself a very good year... QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 03:50 PM) Where's Stevie Franchise? I luv seeing a "little" guy dunk with such a sick vertical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 06:27 PM) Is Ben Gordon one of the worse/overhyped players in the league. I think so. Haven't really heard much noise about him this season other than his struggles, unless I'm missing something... Last year's 6th Man was definitely deserved. This year he's been garbage, along with every Bull other than pre-concussion Kirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Terrible break for Damon and the Grizzlies; Damon Stoudamire was just carried off the court on a stretcher with an apparent torn ligament in his right knee tonight. His season could be over, and Bobby Jackson should be picked up if you own Stoudamire. Dec. 30 - 10:59 pm et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 09:31 PM) Haven't really heard much noise about him this season other than his struggles, unless I'm missing something... Last year's 6th Man was definitely deserved. This year he's been garbage, along with every Bull other than pre-concussion Kirk. Duhon, Deng, Sweets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I think this Kobe-Odom fight will really fuel some talks with the Lakers for Artest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:14 PM) Duhon, Deng, Sweets. I'll give you Deng. I've watched just about every Bulls game so far, so that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:37 PM) I'll give you Deng. I've watched just about every Bulls game so far, so that's it. Not even a tiny bit of love for Duhon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 03:54 PM) Chauncey billups is the mvp of the league this year especially if nash won it last year. I do not think they are even in the same league if you compare the seasons. Billups is such a damn joy to watch. Hmmm...I'm still on the Brand bandwagon. It sure does help when you're surrounded by 4 fellow All-Star-caliber players... Here's a guy I like much more than Billups, in which I see some slight similarities, and one of my favorite 2nd-rounders ever: Arenas I doubt there has been any other draft in which the best player was taken in the 2nd round. I don't even wanna think how different things would have been if the Bulls had taken this guy instead of hassell one pick ahead. He probably would have been traded a year or two afterwards anyways... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 12:38 AM) Not even a tiny bit of love for Duhon? He'd be a great player coming off the bench on a true contender. I'm just upset that the Bulls are so bad that he has to start. What I meant to say is that Kirk and Deng are the only real talent on the team, which is kinda sad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 03:31 PM) I think this Kobe-Odom fight will really fuel some talks with the Lakers for Artest. Yeah that'll probably happen, but I don't think the Lakers should think about doing that. However, they may have to if they want to get their hands on one Ron Artest. And Greasy after your team's performance against the Raptors, you need to trade him, fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 10:31 PM) I think this Kobe-Odom fight will really fuel some talks with the Lakers for Artest. Kobe and Artest would be a toxic mix if you ask me. I doubt anything happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 01:42 AM) Kobe and Artest would be a toxic mix if you ask me. I doubt anything happens. Of course it would be, but the Lakers traded Shaq away, because they thought he was the better option. So they've got great people running that franchise. Kobe and Phil want Artest; it'll go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 10:42 AM) Of course it would be, but the Lakers traded Shaq away, because they thought he was the better option. So they've got great people running that franchise. Kobe and Phil want Artest; it'll go down. I would have to say the lakers made the right choice. Shaq has done s*** the last 2-3 years while being one of the highest paid players in the game. Kobe at least plays and plays damn good even if he looks like an idiot with his spandex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 11:47 AM) I would have to say the lakers made the right choice. Shaq has done s*** the last 2-3 years while being one of the highest paid players in the game. Kobe at least plays and plays damn good even if he looks like an idiot with his spandex. I think the Lakers would at least be in the playoffs with Shaq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 11:47 AM) I would have to say the lakers made the right choice. Shaq has done s*** the last 2-3 years while being one of the highest paid players in the game. Kobe at least plays and plays damn good even if he looks like an idiot with his spandex. So you think the lakers have been better off without shaq? The best choice, in my opinion, would be for both players to quit their b****ing, get along, and continue to play at a high level. Shaq can still be dominant. They would still have been contenders. And I don't buy into the money argument. We're paying tim thomas a s***-load for nothing. I think the knicks still pay penny and houston some sort of ridiculous amount too. We might still be paying eddie robinson for all I know. Since coming back, shaq has been showing that he can still play. He can't completely dominate a whole game anymore, but very few can, and he still can be a force. But I'm glad things happened as they did. I dislike the lakers. Good for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 11:49 AM) So you think the lakers have been better off without shaq? The best choice, in my opinion, would be for both players to quit their b****ing, get along, and continue to play at a high level. Shaq can still be dominant. They would still have been contenders. And I don't buy into the money argument. We're paying tim thomas a s***-load for nothing. I think the knicks still pay penny and houston some sort of ridiculous amount too. We might still be paying eddie robinson for all I know. Since coming back, shaq has been showing that he can still play. He can't completely dominate a whole game anymore, but very few can, and he still can be a force. But I'm glad things happened as they did. I dislike the lakers. Good for them. I believe that is what i said. Shaq's defense is nothing anymore... he always has nagging injuries... he always seems to complain... he costs a ridiculous amount... he is getting up there in age for a man as big as he is. Shaq can still be dominate but only for short spurts. He looks exhausted and out of shape now, what was he doing the entire time he was injured? I agree that both players shoud have just stfu and played basketball... but egos always get int he way in sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 03:28 AM) Misleading. arroyo plays about 13 minutes per. Well, it's not as misleading as you think. Assist-To-Turnover Ratio is not an accumulation statistic. Supposing that he was given an additional 7 to 10 minutes per game, would his Assist-To-Turnover ratio be that much different than what it is in the 13 minutes per contest that he is currently receiving? Would it go from 3.70 to below 3.00? I doubt that very much. If you can argue otherwise, feel free. All credit goes to Flip Saunders for his terrific approach on offense. I don't even have to look at the Detroit record. That guy is coach of the year in a landslide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 How damn good is Lebron? Totally took apart the Pistons today. His overall efficiency is sick. I can't think of anybody that's averaged over 25 ppg while shooting 50% from the field since you know who. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 10:47 AM) I would have to say the lakers made the right choice. Shaq has done s*** the last 2-3 years while being one of the highest paid players in the game. Kobe at least plays and plays damn good even if he looks like an idiot with his spandex. Define "done s***"? Shaq averaged 23, 11, nearly 3 blocks on 60% shooting last season. You don't think the Lakers could've used that last year? And he's puttin up some pretty good numbers now since he's been back. He's still easily the best center in the game. He still commands double and triple teams on a nightly basis. It's not a coincidence that the Heat were just 9-9 while Shaq was out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 03:52 PM) How damn good is Lebron? Totally took apart the Pistons today. His overall efficiency is sick. I can't think of anybody that's averaged over 25 ppg while shooting 50% from the field since you know who. Could we see the greatest player ever to play, who knows. Not trying to compare him to anyone, espeically until he takes the Cavs to the promise land let alone the playoffs. It'll be a fun 15+ years to watch from this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 And I like the old throwback jerseys better too; You thought Orlando's win over the Wolves didn't mean anything? Guess again. Dating back to Dec. 10, the Magic are undefeated at home while wearing their pinstriped white throwbacks, so the team vowed to keep wearing them until they lose at home. However, NBA rules say that teams can only wear retros a maximum of 10 times during the season, and the Magic are right at the limit. If they go over, they're in trouble with the league. This all would've been a moot point had Orlando lost on Friday, but now they're probably gonna wear the throwbacks for their next home game, against Charlotte on Jan. 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Nice 1st half for the Bulls. Up 49-45. They need to keep up the intensity in the 2nd half and get a nice win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jan 1, 2006 -> 01:00 AM) Nice 1st half for the Bulls. Up 49-45. They need to keep up the intensity in the 2nd half and get a nice win. screw it this season is lost go for the L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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