Can Tejada be a reality?

[rangercal]

Tejada upset with Orioles' lack of action

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2274777

 

Take the following insert from espn for what it's worth .

 

ESPN Rumor Central: "The Orioles are seriously weighing a proposal from the Red Sox of Manny Ramirez and Matt Clement for Miguel Tejada, ESPN's Peter Gammons reports. Baltimore will weigh other discussions --Philadelphia, the White Sox and Houston are also in on Tejada -- and decide early next week which way to go. They want a star in return for Tejada. Ramirez is better suited for Camden Yards. Tejada's agents are pushing for Boston so he can be united with good friend David Ortiz."

 

Count and uribe would make the most sense to me in any deal for Tejada.

 

 

If Count and uribe were in the deal the salaries would match up well.

 

 

I dont know what their 2006 salaries are , but their 2005 salaries go like this:

Count $ 8,500,000

Uribe $2,150,000

Total $ 10,650,000

 

Tejada $10,781,206

 

We would have to give up more than those 2. That trade would work out for both teams.

Edited December 30, 2005 by rangercal

[knightni]

I like that trade-off but, I'd hate to lose Uribe.

[spiderman]

Tejada upset with Orioles' lack of action

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2274777

 

Take the following insert from espn for what it's worth .

Count and uribe would make the most sense to me in any deal for Tejada.

If  Count  and uribe were in the deal the salaries would match up well.

I dont know what their 2006 salaries are , but their 2005 salaries go like this:

Count $ 8,500,000

Uribe $2,150,000

Total  $ 10,650,000

 

Tejada $10,781,206

 

We would have to give up more than those 2. That trade would work out for both teams.

 

I don't know why Baltimore would do this.

 

Why take on a pitcher who's at least 34 years old, who just started to live up to his potential this past season with the White Sox, and who isn't signed beyond this season along with Uribe, a nice player, but clearly a major step down from Tejada ?

 

I don't know what other teams are offering, and maybe this offer would come close, but I would think Balimore should be considering not trading Tejada at all.

[southsideirish71]

I like that trade-off but, I'd hate to lose Uribe.

 

 

To get Tejada, I would rent the limo, and make sure Uribe had a window seat for the flight to lovely baltimore.

 

We land Tejada, and I think we seriously are hitting 3 mill in attendance this year.

Edited December 30, 2005 by southsideirish71

[knightni]

To get Tejada, I would rent the limo, and make sure Uribe had a window seat for the flight to lovely baltimore.

Free beer, peanuts and whores for the limo too?

Edited December 30, 2005 by knightni

[spiderman]

I like that trade-off but, I'd hate to lose Uribe.

 

Let's not be Cub fans here

 

To get a player like Tejada, you're going to have pay through the nose, and Uribe would have to go!

[rangercal]

I like that trade-off but, I'd hate to lose Uribe.

I hated to see rowand go, but was fine with it since we got Thome. If we traded Uribe in a package that brought over Tejada I would be fine with that too.

[southsideirish71]

Free beer, peanuts and whores for the limo too?

 

 

Come on now lets not be silly, whores cost a lot. They arrive when Tejada comes off the plane for his ride to the Cell.

[rangercal]

I don't know why Baltimore would do this.

 

Why take on a pitcher who's at least 34 years old, who just started to live up to his potential this past season with the White Sox, and who isn't signed beyond this season along with Uribe, a nice player, but clearly a major step down from Tejada ?

 

I don't know what other teams are offering, and maybe this offer would come close, but I would think Balimore should be considering not trading Tejada at all.

Salaries considering. This deal would make more sense than Ramirez and Clement IMO

[knightni]

Salaries considering. This deal would make more sense than Ramirez and Clement IMO

Angelos is stupid when it comes to $$ (ie. Sosa)

 

He'd probably rather have Clement and Ramirez.

[whitesoxin']

Boston is offering Manny and Clement. Everyone here believes Contreras and Uribe is our offer. Which is a better package? Get real people. If we were to get Tejada, B-Mac would have to be in the deal and most likely Uribe and another impact player.

[rangercal]

Boston is offering Manny and Clement. Everyone here believes Contreras and Uribe is our offer. Which is a better package? Get real people. If we were to get Tejada, B-Mac would have to be in the deal and most likely Uribe and another impact player.

 

Why would Baltimore add close to 20 mil in salary ?

 

Why not just Sign Millwood and aanother pitcher to keep Tejada Happy? I think money may be an issue for them.

[ChWRoCk2]

For Baltimore, uribe is a downgrade in tejada, and they still need other pitchers to fill the hole, if I were them I would do the Boston trade, I kind of think it would be a steal on the Orioles part, gettin ramirez who is just as good as tejada and getting a good pitcher IMO

Edited December 30, 2005 by ChWRoCk2

[mr_genius]

He'd probably rather have Clement and Ramirez.

 

 

if the Orioles can afford it, then Manny and Clement for Tejada is a better trade for them IMO.

 

but you're right, it would be an expensive trade for the O's.

[knightni]

Why would Baltimore add close to 20 mil in salary ?

 

 

Because:

Angelos is stupid when it comes to $$ (ie. Sosa)

[Milkman delivers]

If the Orioles get Clement and Manny, they had BETTER get a s***load of money. I really don't want to see the Red Sox dump two guys they don't even want for the best SS in baseball just because the Orioles are the worst organization in baseball. They better hold anyone hostage that wants Tejada for a gigantic deal...unless that team is the White Sox, of course.

[rangercal]

Because:

Then why didn't they sign pitching? Millwood was still a FA when Tejda came out with his concerns.

[wilmot825]

Juan has such a great arm and an sweet defensive guy...i think better than Miguel...

[rangercal]

From the tribune

 

Tejada trade talk not doused yet

Shortstop reiterates wish to leave Orioles

 

By Dave van Dyck

Tribune staff reporter

Published December 29, 2005, 10:42 PM CST

 

It was just a small wire-service story, an early December off-season baseball dispatch from the Dominican Republic that hardly would catch the eyes of newspaper editors, but it sure opened the eyes of team executives, including those on both sides of Chicago.

 

Miguel Tejada, Baltimore's All-Star shortstop, was quoted as saying a "change of scenery" might be best for him. It took only a few hours before general managers were calling Baltimore with their plans to facilitate and accommodate Tejada, much to the shock of Orioles executives.

 

Who wanted Tejada?

 

"Who wouldn't?" one team executive said at the time.

 

Three weeks later, only a handful of clubs—the Cubs, White Sox and Red Sox most prominently—reportedly are left in what can be described best as a silent auction. No one really is talking for the record about how far trade talks have gone.

 

And although the Orioles claim "there is absolutely no deal we find acceptable to trade this very special player to another team," the rumors won't go away, perhaps because many teams want to add a "yet" onto the end of the statement.

 

Tejada reiterated his trade request Thursday night to the Baltimore Sun, saying he was more upset than ever at the Orioles' lack of off-season moves.

 

"I thought I [would] put pressure and we'll see," Tejada said. "What have they done? Nothing."

 

"Next year, I want to be somewhere where they want to win."

 

In baseball's hot-stove league, any kind of smoke can be turned into fire. Now there may be sparks again with Tejada's renewed trade request.

 

The names mentioned in talks are astounding: Manny Ramirez, Mark Prior, first Jon Garland and then Jose Contreras.

 

Who is Miguel Tejada and just how good is he?

 

He is a high-average, big-power hitter who, at 29, already has won an MVP award (2002 with Oakland) and has signed a six-year, $72 million contract.

 

"Terrific, great player, a five-tool guy," one major-league scout said, looking at his notes compiled over the years. "I have him listed as the No. 1 shortstop overall in baseball, ahead of [Derek] Jeter and [Rafael] Furcal.

 

"His offense separates him from the other guys. But he's pretty much the whole package. He has well above-average arm and range. He's a very average runner, but he's an aggressive guy. The only minus would be that he's a free swinger, he doesn't take a lot of walks."

 

And yet who is complaining about a minor flaw from a middle-of-the-order middle infielder who hits above .300 and is capable of more than 30 homers (he won the All-Star home run contest in 2004) and 100 RBIs (he had 150 two years ago) and who is consistently among league leaders in doubles.

 

He also hasn't missed a game in five years. Behind the statistics, he is a leader in the clubhouse—vocally and by example.

 

"It sounds like a cliche, but he's one of those guys who is all about winning," said John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle, who covered Tejada in Oakland and has written stories about him since. "He's the consummate team guy, really bummed after losses."

 

Tejada—"Miggy" to his friends—grew up professionally in the free-spirit Oakland clubhouses that included Jason Giambi, Eric Chavez and Barry Zito. Those were the easy days, with near-annual postseason appearances, that the amiable Tejada never can duplicate. Giambi left for the Yankees and Tejada departed soon after for Baltimore.

 

Giambi was involved in the BALCO steroids mess and Tejada became embroiled in controversy this past summer when teammate Rafael Palmeiro claimed a vitamin B-12 shot Tejada supplied made him test positive for steroids. Palmeiro now admits that is impossible to prove. Tejada also had a falling out with fellow Dominican Sammy Sosa during the season.

 

Yet what led to Tejada's trade "request" was an Orioles' off-season that failed to land a big-name starting pitcher and almost guaranteed they couldn't be competitive with the Yankees, Red Sox and Blue Jays in the AL East. Ironically, if Tejada is traded, it might bring at least one starting pitcher.

 

For those apparently still left trying to find some sort of combination to please the Orioles, neither the names nor the $54 million still left on his contract—including next season's $12 million—has scared them away. In fact, that's a lesser salary than the Dodgers gave Furcal when they outbid the Cubs and Braves for the shortstop.

 

Which team, if any, has the inside track on Tejada and what are they offering? Let's take a look:

 

Red Sox: It seems Boston won't give up trying to find a way to make it happen, the latest gossip involving the disgruntled Ramirez and former Cubs starter Matt Clement. But the Boston Globe reports the hang-ups are evening out the money and getting Baltimore to deal Tejada within the East Division.

 

Another rumor from a Web site in New York talked of a four-way deal also involving the Mets and Devil Rays, in which Tejada winds up in Boston and Ramirez in Baltimore.

 

Cubs: General manager Jim Hendry was among the first to express interest in Tejada, which is natural for a team lacking one more offensive player, but it has been slow going since. The Cubs, apparently, would be willing to part with Prior for Tejada, which would save the Orioles money and give them a young starting pitcher.

 

The proposed deal has been altered several times to include such Cubs as Corey Patterson and Todd Walker and perhaps prospect Rich Hill. The Cubs would want young lefty Erik Bedard back. The Orioles prefer Carlos Zambrano to Prior.

 

One advantage for the Cubs: They have the financial flexibility to take on Tejada's salary without giving much salary in return.

 

White Sox: If the Orioles trade Tejada, they would need a shortstop, and the White Sox would be willing to part with Juan Uribe as part of a deal. They also might be willing to trade Jose Contreras, who might have been baseball's best pitcher the last two months last season. Would GM Ken Williams really break up his world championship lineup? In a heartbeat. After adding Jim Thome this winter, Williams would turn around a lineup that was very average last season.

 

The problem for the White Sox is money. Their payroll already is projected at $95 million, which is $20 million more than last season.

 

Still, to add someone of Tejada's quality to a team already capable of winning again would intrigue Williams, who adores big-name players.

 

The names don't come any bigger than Miguel Tejada.

[thedoctor]

i just read that story. i didn't know whether to read it as just speculative or based on some sort of sourcing. i'm guessing the former, although the scenario is intriguing.

[knightni]

Count, Uribe and Liotta for Tejada.. you can print the WS tix now.

[Heads22]

That would also put the exclamation point on the complete gutting of the farm system.

[Rowand44]

Garland and Uribe for Tejada is much more realistic now then it was before and more realistic then JC and Uribe imo.

 

EDIT: This is obviously if he doesnt have that no trade in the first year which I still haven't seen confirmed anywhere yet.

Edited December 30, 2005 by Rowand44

[ChWRoCk2]

Garland and Uribe for Tejada is much more realistic now then it was before and more realistic then JC and Uribe imo.

^

[rangercal]

Garland and Uribe for Tejada is much more realistic now then it was before and more realistic then JC and Uribe imo.

Unless Garland was aware of it before he signed. I think that would be a very negative move for our organazation. You don't trade a guy after he signed with us for a bargain price (compared to what he would have received on the market 1 year from now) Don't expect any more "hometown discounts" for a while if we did that.