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The Orioles Board has a big thread going off this same rumor. They think both offers are crap. Interesting to read Baltimore's opinion. They all say Tejada is a top 5 player in baseball, which I completely disagree with. I can name 10 players I would rather have.

 

Johan Santana

Albert Pujols

A-Rod

Vlad

Ortiz

Derek Lee

Andruw Jones

Miguel Cabrera

D-Train

Texeira

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QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 03:39 PM)
http://www.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28747

 

The Orioles Board has a big thread going off this same rumor.  They think both offers are crap.  Interesting to read Baltimore's opinion.  They all say Tejada is a top 5 player in baseball, which I completely disagree with.  I can name 10 players I would rather have.

 

Johan Santana

Albert Pujols

A-Rod

Vlad

Ortiz

Derek Lee

Andruw Jones

Miguel Cabrera

D-Train

Texeira

 

I think you're basing that off of one year. I'd say he's top 5.

 

Pujols

Cabrera

Tejada

A-Rod

Santana

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QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 03:39 PM)
http://www.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28747

 

The Orioles Board has a big thread going off this same rumor.  They think both offers are crap.  Interesting to read Baltimore's opinion.  They all say Tejada is a top 5 player in baseball, which I completely disagree with.  I can name 10 players I would rather have.

 

Johan Santana

Albert Pujols

A-Rod

Vlad

Ortiz

Derek Lee

Andruw Jones

Miguel Cabrera

D-Train

Texeira

Obviously it's all opinion anyway, but I wouldnt put Ortiz (no D), Andruw, Cabrera, or Texeira on that list ahead of Tejada.

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QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 03:41 PM)
I don't think anyone even knew we had him in our system much less his stuff or what he projects to be. He's intriguing at the very least.

I know, i don't even know who he is, but i figured that some of the posters that follow the minors would know more about this guy.

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QUOTE(Adam G @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 04:08 PM)
I cant believe that you guys like Carbrera and Texeira that much.

Miguel Cabrera is a great player and texeira is a above great hitter and a gold glove winner i believe.

 

Cabreras stats through his first 3 years

G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG

2003 87 314 39 84 21 3 12 62 147 25 84 0 2 .325 .468 .268

2004 160 603 101 177 31 1 33 112 309 68 148 5 2 .366 .512 .294

2005 158 613 106 198 43 2 33 116 344 64 125 1 0 .385 .561 .323

Career 405 1530 246 459 95 6 78 290 800 157 357 6 4 .366 .523 .300

 

Teixeira stats through his first three years

G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG

2003 146 529 66 137 29 5 26 84 254 44 120 1 2 .331 .480 .259

2004 145 545 101 153 34 2 38 112 305 68 117 4 1 .370 .560 .281

2005 162 644 112 194 41 3 43 144 370 72 124 4 0 .379 .575 .301

Career 453 1718 279 484 104 10 107 340 929 184 361 9 3 .362 .541 .282

 

 

Tejadas stats through his first four years

G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG

1997 26 99 10 20 3 2 2 10 33 2 22 2 0 .240 .333 .202

1998 105 365 53 85 20 1 11 45 140 28 86 5 6 .298 .384 .233

1999 159 593 93 149 33 4 21 84 253 57 94 8 7 .325 .427 .251

2000 160 607 105 167 32 1 30 115 291 66 102 6 0 .349 .479 .275

 

 

Tejada wasn't as good when he first came up as teixeira and cabrera are right now.

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QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 04:11 PM)
Miguel Cabrera is a great player and texeira is a above great hitter and a gold glove winner i believe.

 

Cabreras stats through his first 3 years

        G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG

2003 87 314 39 84 21 3 12 62 147 25 84 0 2 .325 .468 .268

2004 160 603 101 177 31 1 33 112 309 68 148 5 2 .366 .512 .294

2005 158 613 106 198 43 2 33 116 344 64 125 1 0 .385 .561 .323

Career 405 1530 246 459 95 6 78 290 800 157 357 6 4 .366 .523 .300

 

Teixeira stats through his first three years

          G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG

2003 146 529 66 137 29 5 26 84 254 44 120 1 2 .331 .480 .259

2004 145 545 101 153 34 2 38 112 305 68 117 4 1 .370 .560 .281

2005 162 644 112 194 41 3 43 144 370 72 124 4 0 .379 .575 .301

Career 453 1718 279 484 104 10 107 340 929 184 361 9 3 .362 .541 .282

Tejadas stats through his first four years

            G  AB  R  H  2B  3B  HR  RBI  TB  BB  SO  SB  CS  OBP  SLG  AVG

1997      26 99 10 20 3 2 2 10 33 2 22 2 0 .240 .333 .202

1998      105 365 53 85 20 1 11 45 140 28 86 5 6 .298 .384 .233

1999      159 593 93 149 33 4 21 84 253 57 94 8 7 .325 .427 .251

2000      160 607 105 167 32 1 30 115 291 66 102 6 0 .349 .479 .275

Tejada wasn't as good when he first came up as teixeira and cabrera are right now.

 

 

Cabrera has done it since the day he set foot in a MLB park. Hell look at his rookie season and the playoffs. He was their 2nd best player as a rookie behind I-Rod. I'm not going to put Texieria in there yet. One more year and I'll say he's the league's 2nd best 1B behind Pujols of course.

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Why the f*** is everyone raving about this Woodson character. Is there something none of us that follow the minor leagues know?

 

Maybe this guy has some studly arm and just has been quietly talked about. I can't remember his name but when I get some time i'll look through the notes I compile during drafts and see if I wrote something about him.

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QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 04:11 PM)
Miguel Cabrera is a great player and texeira is a above great hitter and a gold glove winner i believe.

They definitely put up numbers and they're great players, but I guess I dont think of them as the super elite type players. I'd put Jeter, Ichiro, Clemens, Oswalt, Mariano Rivera and Derrick Lee ahead of those guys.

 

Just my two cents though.

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QUOTE(Adam G @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 04:22 PM)
They definitely put up numbers and they're great players, but I guess I dont think of them as the super elite type players.  I'd put Jeter, Ichiro, Clemens, Oswalt, Mariano Rivera and Derrick Lee ahead of those guys.

 

Just my two cents though.

I know, i agree with you. They haven't reached the super elite level yet, but in a couple of years i could see them being there.

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QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 04:21 PM)
Why the f*** is everyone raving about this Woodson character.  Is there something none of us that follow the minor leagues know? 

 

Maybe this guy has some studly arm and just has been quietly talked about.  I can't remember his name but when I get some time i'll look through the notes I compile during drafts and see if I wrote something about him.

 

Yeah, the Orioles posters seem to love him.

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QUOTE(Adam G @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 04:22 PM)
They definitely put up numbers and they're great players, but I guess I dont think of them as the super elite type players.  I'd put Jeter, Ichiro, Clemens, Oswalt, Mariano Rivera and Derrick Lee ahead of those guys.

 

Just my two cents though.

Derek Jeter over Miguel Cabrera? You're high.

 

Miguel Cabrera will be 23 years old next year, he already has two 33 HR seasons along with two seasons with 112RBI+ and a .300 career batting average. He put up a .947 OPS last season at the age of 22, if you consider Pujols to be elite then you have to put Cabrera in there.

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QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 02:25 PM)
Yeah, the Orioles posters seem to love him.

Ask the schmucks if they know who he is cause I think they are nuts. If he was some god of a prospect (not saying he's not a good prospect, honestly I don't know) he wouldn't have been throwing strictly out of the pen in rookie ball.

 

Everyone has to start somewhere, but for them to say he'll be in AA is laughable. The guy has yet to start a game in the minors. He has pitched in 16 relief games.

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QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 04:27 PM)
Ask the schmucks if they know who he is cause I think they are nuts.  If he was some god of a prospect (not saying he's not a good prospect, honestly I don't know) he wouldn't have been throwing strictly out of the pen in rookie ball.

 

Everyone has to start somewhere, but for them to say he'll be in AA is laughable.  The guy has yet to start a game in the minors.  He has pitched in 16 relief games.

Year Team Name League Age Org. Level W L ERA G GS CG SHO GF SV IP H R ER HR BB SO WP BK h9 hr9 w9 k9 whip

 

2005 Bristol App 19 Chw Rk 1 0 2.55 16 0 0 0 3 24.2 23 8 7 1 5 21 8.39 0.36 1.82 7.66 1.14

 

 

He seems to have good control issuing only 5 BB's in 24.2 innings. Other than that i need an expert opinion on what is so good about him.

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QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 04:27 PM)
Ask the schmucks if they know who he is cause I think they are nuts.  If he was some god of a prospect (not saying he's not a good prospect, honestly I don't know) he wouldn't have been throwing strictly out of the pen in rookie ball.

 

Everyone has to start somewhere, but for them to say he'll be in AA is laughable.  The guy has yet to start a game in the minors.  He has pitched in 16 relief games.

 

Makes you wonder about the so-called rumor and whether it's true or not...Of all minor leaguers in our system why would this guy be picked. Perhaps there is some truth to this mlbrumors rumor. Or maybe this is just the beauty of making up a solid fake rumor.

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