sayitaintso Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE(Damen @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 04:44 PM) i think this tejada stuff is as fun as the randy johnson stuff... Just like Chaveztalk, which was also mentioned earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 05:01 PM) If its worth anything, on a sportscenter update on ESPN 1000, Bruce levine was quoted as saying the Cubs and Red Sox are the front runners for landing Tejada. I heard that also. It's Bruce so no matter who it is the cubs are always in the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Alex Woodson participated in the 2003 National Pre Draft Showcase via Perfect Game. He threw a fastball as hard as 88 MPH (Avg 84-86) and his breaking pitch was around 70 MPH. It indicates he didn't throw a changeup at the time. He was selected in the 29th round by the Oakland A's following this workout. Ryan Sweeney also participated in this workout throwing a fastball as hard as 89. Woodson didn't sign. Instead he attended Porterville College. His fastball has moved up to the 87-88 MPH range and he throws a good tight curveball. If you go here and scroll down you can watch video of him pitching. http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/events/d...?sc=round&sp=16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 05:21 PM) Alex Woodson participated in the 2003 National Pre Draft Showcase via Perfect Game. He threw a fastball as hard as 88 MPH (Avg 84-86) and his breaking pitch was around 70 MPH. It indicates he didn't throw a changeup at the time. He was selected in the 29th round by the Oakland A's following this workout. Ryan Sweeney also participated in this workout throwing a fastball as hard as 89. Woodson didn't sign. Instead he attended Porterville College. His fastball has moved up to the 87-88 MPH range and he throws a good tight curveball. If you go here and scroll down you can watch video of him pitching. http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/events/d...?sc=round&sp=16 has a nice delivery, kind of deceptive and sound mechanics. That being said, he looks like he could be a reliever at best. None of his pitches looked that good, but nor did Mark Buerhle. The profile said he has a good work ethic, so you never know, but I have no idea why Baltimore would want this guy at this stage of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:02 PM) I heard that also. It's Bruce so no matter who it is the cubs are always in the front. True. Although, I don't think the Cubs will be able to make it happen unless they drop their demand for Bedard, or significantly up their package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 QUOTE(SEALgep @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 05:39 PM) True. Although, I don't think the Cubs will be able to make it happen unless they drop their demand for Bedard, or significantly up their package. By your thinking, the Sox will need to include 3 more top prospects. the Cubs are already including Mark Prior, who will be under their control for 3 more years and who is a top 5 pitcher in the majors when healthy. And his injuries have been freak things nothing that would make you worry. The calf and the broken elbow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 The newest comments by Tejada will put even more pressure on Hendry to get Tejada. When it comes down to it, I still think the Cubs will end up giving up Prior, Hill, a hitting prospect and Patterson for Tejada and Bedard. I don't care who the Cubs have to give up for Tejada, it will be worth it for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Congrats to Fathom for the 500,000th reply in PHT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 For the love of God, SOMEBODY needs to get Tejada. I can't handle all the non-stop Tejada talk and speculation by so many fan bases, media people, etc.....it's giving me a headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhillegas Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 i read all 20 pages of this thread and 3 were devoted to tony batista. unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That funky motion Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 06:04 PM) i read all 20 pages of this thread and 3 were devoted to tony batista. unacceptable. and now another one has started! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 05:49 PM) The newest comments by Tejada will put even more pressure on Hendry to get Tejada. When it comes down to it, I still think the Cubs will end up giving up Prior, Hill, a hitting prospect and Patterson for Tejada and Bedard. I don't care who the Cubs have to give up for Tejada, it will be worth it for them. Would you be confident in a starting rotation consisting of Kerry Wood, Carlos Zambrano, Erik Bedard, Greg Maddux, and Glendon Rusch? Sure, their lineup is greatly improved, but it doesn't improve their team. Bedard and Wood need to remain relatively healthy (atleast 50 innings between them), Maddux needs to consistently pitch more than 6 innings, and Glendon Rusch needs more than a straight fastball and weak curveball. Ultimately, I wouldn't trade Prior. For anyone. As I've mentioned before, there's too many question marks to mask in any projected rotation with Bedard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 11:45 PM) By your thinking, the Sox will need to include 3 more top prospects. the Cubs are already including Mark Prior, who will be under their control for 3 more years and who is a top 5 pitcher in the majors when healthy. And his injuries have been freak things nothing that would make you worry. The calf and the broken elbow. The Sox aren't asking for Bedard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank the Tank 35 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Just finished reading all these pages and the Orioles board. They're talking over there that the Cubs pulled Prior off the table. Any truth to that? Supposedly somebody had an inside Cubs source. I find myself almost pushing for the Cubs to trade the farm for Zito and the Mets to finally coup Ramirez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 06:04 PM) i read all 20 pages of this thread and 3 were devoted to tony batista. unacceptable. Shhhhh don't mention him, Batistatalk will start up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(SEALgep @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 05:08 PM) The Sox aren't asking for Bedard. Which is why I think Bmore may like the Sox proposal. They get two guys that they can pencil in. One becomes there ace, while they can keep Bedard (so that would give them a formidable rotation) and the other comes in and plays near gold glove defense with a solid bat (whose still developing and is signed for at least 2 more years at an affordable rate). Of course it will be interesting who the prospect would be, but I do think this deal makes sense for the O's. Especially if they want to keep Bedard. A rotation of Bedard and Contreras is better than one with only Prior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 07:59 PM) Which is why I think Bmore may like the Sox proposal. They get two guys that they can pencil in. One becomes there ace, while they can keep Bedard (so that would give them a formidable rotation) and the other comes in and plays near gold glove defense with a solid bat (whose still developing and is signed for at least 2 more years at an affordable rate). Of course it will be interesting who the prospect would be, but I do think this deal makes sense for the O's. Especially if they want to keep Bedard. A rotation of Bedard and Contreras is better than one with only Prior. I didn't look at it that way. Good post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 01:59 AM) Which is why I think Bmore may like the Sox proposal. They get two guys that they can pencil in. One becomes there ace, while they can keep Bedard (so that would give them a formidable rotation) and the other comes in and plays near gold glove defense with a solid bat (whose still developing and is signed for at least 2 more years at an affordable rate). Of course it will be interesting who the prospect would be, but I do think this deal makes sense for the O's. Especially if they want to keep Bedard. A rotation of Bedard and Contreras is better than one with only Prior. Absolutely, mixed in with a good prospect and the O's will receive good value, and as you said, a solid rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(SEALgep @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 08:03 PM) Absolutely, mixed in with a good prospect and the O's will receive good value, and as you said, a solid rotation. So then in all of your opinions, do you think Baltimore would favor this trade proposal over the other ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 02:05 AM) So then in all of your opinions, do you think Baltimore would favor this trade proposal over the other ones? I'm not the O's, but I believe they wish to keep Bedard, and unless they receive a lot more than what is said to be offered, they won't give him up. Also, unless the Cubs are giving up Cedeno, whose going to fill the spot left by Tejada? Whether they favor it or not, it's the most logical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Is Alex Woodson even eligible to be traded as he was drafted in 2005? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That funky motion Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Miguel Tejada Trade: Update Some more quality details on the possible Miguel Tejada trade: First issue: White Sox payroll. My source is saying that adding Tejada would not be a problem - the team's board of directors are willing to take the payroll up to $105 million. Should the Orioles accept one of their offers, they'll still have flexibility for more additions at the July trading deadline as needed. Second, the Astros are definitely in talks for Tejada. Interestingly, their proposal does not involve Brad Lidge. Their offer consists of a position player and a pitching prospect. Unfortunately, that's all the info I have on that one. A little speculation: Chris Burke, Jason Lane, or Willy Taveras could be the position player in question. I have to think the pitching prospect would come off their top ten list, and could be Jason Hirsh or Troy Patton. From MLB trade rumors. Sound like someone has been reading this thread!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(beck72 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 08:21 PM) Is Alex Woodson even eligible to be traded as he was drafted in 2005? There's a rule on when you can trade a player from the draft? That's news to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 New info from mlbtraderumors.com , take it for what it's worth: Miguel Tejada Trade: Update Some more quality details on the possible Miguel Tejada trade: First issue: White Sox payroll. My source is saying that adding Tejada would not be a problem - the team's board of directors are willing to take the payroll up to $105 million. Should the Orioles accept one of their offers, they'll still have flexibility for more additions at the July trading deadline as needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(JimH @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 08:26 PM) New info from mlbtraderumors.com , take it for what it's worth: Miguel Tejada Trade: Update Some more quality details on the possible Miguel Tejada trade: First issue: White Sox payroll. My source is saying that adding Tejada would not be a problem - the team's board of directors are willing to take the payroll up to $105 million. Should the Orioles accept one of their offers, they'll still have flexibility for more additions at the July trading deadline as needed. This makes you think KW could be about to pull the trigger on a blockbuster trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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