WCSox Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 03:08 PM) And those who receive such vicious, humiliating e-beatdowns should just kinda fade away, if you know what I'm saying. That's funny, I don't feel humiliated at all. Perhaps you need to put down that joint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(WCSox @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:08 PM) That's funny, I don't feel humiliated at all. Perhaps you need to put down that joint. It's bob's joint not his silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:36 PM) As to Taveras' .291 batting average, didn't Mike Caruso hit .300 his rookie year with the White Sox? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've still haven't heard him answer the question. WCSox, Was Mike Caruso a "proven" MLB hitter after batting .301 in 1998? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 It seems I'm really overrating Prior, even over the O's. I know in Sullivan's article he said O's basically told the Cubs no Zambrano no deal. But with all these names being thrown around I would want Prior out of any of them. Trust me, by no means am I a Cubs fan, but he is younger than Jose and a lot better than Benson or Clement. I think if the Cubs do a similar deal but put Pie or Cedeno in there the Cubs would have the inside track. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree with you. Prior has a lot more value than Contreras in my opinion as well. But now they are saying that Hendry never offered Prior for Tejada. It wouldn't make much sense that he would either. Hendry is trying to copy the 2005 White Sox (great pitching, speed, and defense). It wouldn't make sense for him to trade away one of his best starting pitchers. Great pitching is the main reason we won the World Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) I've still haven't heard him answer the question. WCSox, Was Mike Caruso a "proven" MLB hitter after batting .301 in 1998? YES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) I've still haven't heard him answer the question. WCSox, Was Mike Caruso a "proven" MLB hitter after batting .301 in 1998? He actually hit .306 with 22 steals in 28 attempts. The next season he hit .250 with 12 steals in 26 attempts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:13 PM) He actually hit .306 with 22 steals in 28 attempts. The next season he hit .250 with 12 steals in 26 attempts. That's a slight dropoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 03:11 PM) I've still haven't heard him answer the question. WCSox, Was Mike Caruso a "proven" MLB hitter after batting .301 in 1998? Good question. Is Brian Anderson starting CF material after hitting .176 in 13 games earlier this year? Has he "proven" to be worthy of a starting position on the defending WS champs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:14 PM) That's a slight dropoff. After that he didn't play in the majors until 2002 when he had 2 hits in 20 at bats, and that was all for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(WCSox @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:16 PM) Good question. Is Brian Anderson starting CF material after hitting .176 in 13 games earlier this year? Has he "proven" to be worthy of a starting position on the defending WS champs? you still didn't answer, you just asked another question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Willy Taveras was born on December 25 and I'm fairly certain that he is Jesus Christ reincarnated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(WCSox @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 05:05 PM) I'll say it again for you, nice and simply: When shooting for a second WS victory and the need to fill a hole at one position, players who are very good defensively, have great speed on the bases, and are at least adequate at the plate are preferable to players with little or no MLB experience. On one hand, you have a player who has had at least some success in the majors and you have a good idea of what you're going to get the following season. On the other hand, young players who haven't had time to adjust to major-league pitching are big question marks. If they don't make the adjustment quickly enough (or at all), they could be liabilities down the stretch. QUOTE(Felix @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:34 PM) The Astros had Taveras as their starting CF all of last year, were they aiming for rebuilding? We had Bobby Jenks as our closer in the toughest spots of the year, were we rebuildingthen ? We had McCarthy take the spot of El Duque last year, were we rebuilding then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Is there still time for me to pad my post count? Sweet..... I mean....uh......we better not trade contreras!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:16 PM) After that he didn't play in the majors until 2002 when he had 2 hits in 20 at bats, and that was all for him. At least he had one good year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(jphat007 @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:17 PM) Is there still time for me to pad my post count? Sweet..... I mean....uh......we better not trade contreras!!! That's all this thread is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(WCSox @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:16 PM) Good question. Is Brian Anderson starting CF material after hitting .176 in 13 games earlier this year? Has he "proven" to be worthy of a starting position on the defending WS champs? Robin Ventura was given the starting 3b job with the White Sox in 1990 after hit a robust .178 in 45 ABs with no homers. The White Sox won 94 games in 1990. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:16 PM) After that he didn't play in the majors until 2002 when he had 2 hits in 20 at bats, and that was all for him. And then he went on to play for the Long Island Ducks where he failed to reignite his career. He's only 28, he'll be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 05:13 PM) He actually hit .306 with 22 steals in 28 attempts. The next season he hit .250 with 12 steals in 26 attempts. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ..and you know what, f*** Mike Caruso's 1998 season where he proved to be a .306 hitter. His OBP was a pathetic .331, but unlike Taveras he had a BB/K of 14/38 instead of 25/103. He also stole bases at a better rate than Taveras too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Good question. Is Brian Anderson starting CF material after hitting .176 in 13 games earlier this year? Has he "proven" to be worthy of a starting position on the defending WS champs? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 34 major league at bats. Jesus f'ing Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:18 PM) ..and you know what, f*** Mike Caruso's 1998 season where he proved to be a .306 hitter. His OBP was a pathetic .331, but unlike Taveras he had a BB/K of 14/38 instead of 25/103. He also stole bases at a better rate than Taveras too. So mike caruso is better than taveras? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) 34 major league at bats. Jesus f'ing Christ. It's kind of hard to judge someone on 34 AB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:18 PM) ..and you know what, f*** Mike Caruso's 1998 season where he proved to be a .306 hitter. His OBP was a pathetic .331, but unlike Taveras he had a BB/K of 14/38 instead of 25/103. He also stole bases at a better rate than Taveras too. They appear to be very similar offensive players. I doubt Taveras flames out as quickly as Caruso, if I'm not mistaken Caruso spent too much time around a bong and not enough working on getting stronger and becoming a better baseball player. But I'm sure if you asked 100 scouts who they would rather have between Anderson and Taveras, a big majority would say Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:23 PM) They appear to be very similar offensive players. I doubt Taveras flames out as quickly as Caruso, if I'm not mistaken Caruso spent too much time around a bong and not enough working on getting stronger and becoming a better baseball player. But I'm sure if you asked 100 scouts who they would rather have between Anderson and Taveras, a big majority would say Anderson. Are you serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:24 PM) Are you serious? The word on the street was that his watch was stopped at 4:20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 04:25 PM) The word on the street was that his watch was stopped at 4:20. Now it is all falling into place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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