South Park Really Ticks Off Catholics

[WilliamTell]

Have the Jews complained about South Park? I don't know, I'm asking the question. But I would think they'd have more to complain about than an episode or two on South Park. South Park makes fun of anything and everything. It's almost impossible to find something on South Park that doesn't hit home in some form. It's not like the Catholics are perfect even though a lot act like they're better than any other Christian.

 

I think I'm going to go to some Catholic church, learn exactly what they do, and then go to another church and take communion. haha not that it's a big deal, but it's just something I wanna see done since Protestants aren't supposed to commune at a Catholic church.

Edited January 4, 2006 by WilliamTell

[jackie hayes]

yeah, what a policy. Catholics must hate black people.

I hear Cardinal Arinze is in charge of the extermination.

 

So the Church is 'strong-arming' people to support the war? Wow, and they even hid it from the Pope! That's some clever s***.

[LowerCaseRepublican]

I hear Cardinal Arinze is in charge of the extermination.

 

So the Church is 'strong-arming' people to support the war?  Wow, and they even hid it from the Pope!  That's some clever s***.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:qU5RF...lient=firefox-a

 

If you vote for a candidate you're no longer Catholic and can no longer receive the Eucharist. That is inherently a political action taken by their organization and therefore should lose their tax exempt status.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

What a great well reasoned, detailed response refuting my points.  You sure showed me.

 

You just don't merit a response if that's what you truly believe...

 

The good of the Church far outweighs the examples you're going to keep throwing out. Galileo??? Wow, what an argument...Just imagine all of the past mistakes that have been made throughout history because of what was unknown...Horrible argument...Doesn't even apply to today...

 

An organization with such a massive size covering such a huge amount of time thoughout history is not going to come without its problems, mistakes, etc. When such a large volume of people is involved, problems are inevitable..obviously. It's human nature to f*** up.

 

But the overall message of the Church is good. You and I both know that. Don't confuse human error for what the Church stands for. I will stand by this statement: The good of the Church FAR outweighs the problems and mistakes that have come along throughout history...its not even close.

 

So when you make ignorant statements about the Catholicism, you're gonna offend some people, whether you care or not. What you can do is seperate the instances that you don't agree with from the overall umbrella of "Catholicism" because that word stands for much more than you realize. I guess respecting others' beliefs, what some people base their lives on and believe in very strongly, is foreign to you. That's fine. Good for you. I just pride myself in knowing that you'll never hear me making such statements about what others believe in, like calling them "f***ing hypocritical bastards."

[jackie hayes]

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:qU5RF...lient=firefox-a

 

If you vote for a candidate you're no longer Catholic and can no longer receive the Eucharist.  That is inherently a political action taken by their organization and therefore should lose their tax exempt status.

There isn't s*** in that article about the war. In fact the Vatican has been consistently opposed to the war. So, wtf is your point?

 

And read THE SECOND PARAGRAPH -- "it is not necessarily sinful for Catholics to vote for politicians who support abortion, as long as they are voting for that candidate for other reasons". So voting for a candidate (I assume you meant pro-choice cand) does NOT revoke your Catholicism.

 

Read an article before you link it, for...Christ's sake.

[LowerCaseRepublican]

There isn't s*** in that article about the war.  In fact the Vatican has been consistently opposed to the war.  So, wtf is your point?

 

And read THE SECOND PARAGRAPH -- "it is not necessarily sinful for Catholics to vote for politicians who support abortion, as long as they are voting for that candidate for other reasons".  So voting for a candidate (I assume you meant pro-choice cand) does NOT revoke your Catholicism.

 

Read an article before you link it, for...Christ's sake.

Other priests have said that it does. So there is a bit of ye olde schism on the topic.

[LowerCaseRepublican]

You just don't merit a response if that's what you truly believe...

 

The good of the Church far outweighs the examples you're going to keep throwing out.  Galileo???  Wow, what an argument...Just imagine all of the past mistakes that have been made throughout history because of what was unknown...Horrible argument...Doesn't even apply to today...

 

An organization with such a massive size covering such a huge amount of time thoughout history is not going to come without its problems, mistakes, etc.  When such a large volume of people is involved, problems are inevitable..obviously.  It's human nature to f*** up.

 

But the overall message of the Church is good.  You and I both know that.  Don't confuse human error for what the Church stands for.  I will stand by this statement:  The good of the Church FAR outweighs the problems and mistakes that have come along throughout history...its not even close.

 

So when you make ignorant statements about the Catholicism, you're gonna offend some people, whether you care or not.  What you can do is seperate the instances that you don't agree with from the overall umbrella of "Catholicism" because that word stands for much more than you realize.  I guess respecting others' beliefs, what some people base their lives on and believe in very strongly, is foreign to you.  That's fine.  Good for you.  I just pride myself in knowing that you'll never hear me making such statements about what others believe in, like calling them "f***ing hypocritical bastards."

How Christlike to find me worthy. You truly are a shining example.

 

The word stands for social control. The whole reason priests are unable to marry is because the Church wanted the money from the estates when priests would die. If there were no heirs, the Church would be the only one to get the money.

 

The papacy has been bought and sold numerous times throughout history. (And nice job by the way of completely avoiding the complicit support of the Nazis by the Church...great historical revisionism!)

 

My problem is not with the religion perse. It becomes a problem when people use fundamentalism to strongarm others (i.e. the Catholic League "We're offended that there is a show on TV!" -- Here's a tip, if you don't like it then don't watch it. Let those who want to have the ability to do so). While efforts of some Catholics (Pax Christi, Ita Ford, Helen Prejean, Oscar Romero, Fr. Roy Bourgeois and the nuns I've met in Georgia at SOA protests etc.) have been positive, the overwhelming majority of Catholic leadership has put them out on the margins, even to the extent of throwing out liberation theology.

[jackie hayes]

Other priests have said that it does.  So there is a bit of ye olde schism on the topic.

So let me get this straight -- you linked an article to support your statements that doesn't support your statements at all, and now you're telling me that it doesn't matter because you've heard that some Catholics think that way, even if they aren't in any sense the voice of the Church? Are you f***ing kidding me?

 

What a great well reasoned, detailed response refuting my points. You sure showed me.

 

[SleepyWhiteSox]

So let me get this straight -- you linked an article to support your statements that doesn't support your statements at all, and now you're telling me that it doesn't matter because you've heard that some Catholics think that way, even if they aren't in any sense the voice of the Church?  Are you f***ing kidding me?

 

What a great well reasoned, detailed response refuting my points. You sure showed me.

 

           

 

I believe that's what the kids call getting 'pwn3d'.

 

[sox4lifeinPA]

How Christlike to find me worthy. You truly are a shining example.

 

dude, you don't believe in the concept of acting Christ-like; you don't know what it means. Stop throwing it in people's faces. It's so lame.

[Steff]

I truly believe that LCR doesn't fault ALL catholics for the sins of a few thousand...

 

 

I think...

 

 

I hope...

 

 

Right.....?

[LowerCaseRepublican]

I truly believe that LCR doesn't fault ALL catholics for the sins of a few thousand...

I think...

I hope...

Right.....? 

As I said before there are some Catholics that I respect. I just find it hilarious that Sleepy et al. seem to be defenders of an organization that coddled rapists and those complicit in mass exterminations.

[sec159row2]

An organization that hides child rapists for decades, even in the cases where it would benefit a common good is an organization whose credentials for being a moral compass should be severely.

 

From giving Galileo house arrest because he dared to say that the Earth revolved around the Sun to the condemnation of liberation theology (and in as such, Archbishop Oscar Romero et al.) to their promotion of the global AIDS pandemic to the Spanish Inquisition to the consent of the slave trade....

 

To the blatant support of fascism and the Nazi Regime (read: Pius XII)  From The Secret History of Pius XII: After World War II, murmurs of Pacelli's callous indifference to the plight of Europe's Jews began to be heard. A noted commentator on Catholic issues, Cornwell began research for this book believing that "if his full story were told, Pius XII's pontificate would be exonerated." Instead, he emerged from the Vatican archives in a state of "moral shock," concluding that Pacelli displayed anti-Semitic tendencies early on and that his drive to promote papal absolutism inexorably led him to collaboration with fascist leaders. Cornwell convincingly depicts Cardinal Secretary of State Pacelli pursuing Vatican diplomatic goals that crippled Germany's large Catholic political party, which might otherwise have stymied Hitler's worst excesses. The author's condemnation has special force because he portrays the admittedly eccentric Pacelli not as a monster but as a symptom of a historic wrong turn in the Catholic Church. He meticulously builds his case for the painful conclusion that "Pacelli's failure to respond to the enormity of the Holocaust was more than a personal failure, it was a failure of the papal office itself and the prevailing culture of Catholicism."

 

A few mistakes is understandable but with all of these consistent errors to stop progressive movements and even take steps towards regression show that it is pretty much deliberate to keep the church ideology from evolving to help people.

 

I believe that's what the kids call getting 'pwn3d'.  An organization with such a history should have no place being the beacon that proclaims itself the moral compass and moral leader of the world.

 

 

 

Are you Dan Brown???

[southsideirish71]

As I said before there are some Catholics that I respect.  I just find it hilarious that Sleepy et al. seem to be defenders of an organization that coddled rapists and those complicit in mass exterminations.

 

 

I find it ironic that you can argue for drugs, socialism, anti-americanism, all things left because you feel that you are so open and understanding....but the minute a catholic crosses your path thats when you just have to draw the line, all catholics except for a few are evil people that are responsible for the worlds evils. Its the socialist doubletalk twostep. I am sure that we can find evil actions by all societies throughout history. But please cherry pick the evil catholics and their plight to destroy the earth.

 

No catholic unless they are delusional supports priests raping children. I think those priests should be excommunicated and tried for their crimes. However who the hell are you to judge all catholics and lump them in because of your biggoted anti-religion view. The church isnt preaching for the spread of aids. What a myopic view you have of this issue. GMAFB, If these poor african people are truly such good little catholics that they have to sit by doctrine law and dont use birth control, then what the hell are they doing having sex outside of the confines of marriage. So there goes the misconception that aids in africa is the problem of the church and their stance on birth control, because if they decide to go poking around outside of marriage then they can put on a rubber.

 

 

Maybe you can build a time machine and enjoy the roman empire and how they treated the catholics.

Edited January 5, 2006 by southsideirish71

[Milkman delivers]

I find it ironic that you can argue for drugs, socialism, anti-americanism, all things left because you feel that you are so open and understanding....but the minute a catholic crosses your path thats when you just have to draw the line, all catholics except for a few are evil people that are responsible for the worlds evils.  Its the socialist doubletalk twostep.  I am sure that we can find evil actions by all societies throughout history.  But please cherry pick the evil catholics and their plight to destroy the earth. 

 

No catholic unless they are delusional supports priests raping children.  I think those priests should be excommunicated and tried for their crimes.  However who the hell are you to judge all catholics and lump them in because of your biggoted anti-religion view.  The church isnt preaching for the spread of aids.  What a myopic view you have of this issue.  GMAFB, If these poor african people are truly such good little catholics that they have to sit by doctrine law and dont use birth control, then what the hell are they doing having sex outside of the confines of marriage.  So there goes the misconception that aids in africa is the problem of the church, because if they decide to go poking around outside of marriage then they can put on a rubber. 

Maybe you can build a time machine and enjoy the roman empire and how they treated the catholics.

 

 

*slow clap*

[sayitaintso]

That episode was funny.

[sayitaintso]

I find it ironic that you can argue for drugs, socialism, anti-americanism, all things left because you feel that you are so open and understanding....but the minute a catholic crosses your path thats when you just have to draw the line, all catholics except for a few are evil people that are responsible for the worlds evils.  Its the socialist doubletalk twostep.  I am sure that we can find evil actions by all societies throughout history.  But please cherry pick the evil catholics and their plight to destroy the earth. 

 

No catholic unless they are delusional supports priests raping children.  I think those priests should be excommunicated and tried for their crimes.  However who the hell are you to judge all catholics and lump them in because of your biggoted anti-religion view.  The church isnt preaching for the spread of aids.  What a myopic view you have of this issue.  GMAFB, If these poor african people are truly such good little catholics that they have to sit by doctrine law and dont use birth control, then what the hell are they doing having sex outside of the confines of marriage.  So there goes the misconception that aids in africa is the problem of the church and their stance on birth control, because if they decide to go poking around outside of marriage then they can put on a rubber. 

Maybe you can build a time machine and enjoy the roman empire and how they treated the catholics.

[WilliamTell]

That episode was funny.

 

I wish I could've seen it.

[southsideirish71]

I wish I could've seen it.

 

 

The episode was funny, search on the net you can find it.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

As I said before there are some Catholics that I respect.  I just find it hilarious that Sleepy et al. seem to be defenders of an organization that coddled rapists and those complicit in mass exterminations.

 

You just don't get it...How sad...

[WilliamTell]

The episode was funny, search on the net you can find it.

 

Alright thanks.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

I find it ironic that you can argue for drugs, socialism, anti-americanism, all things left because you feel that you are so open and understanding....but the minute a catholic crosses your path thats when you just have to draw the line, all catholics except for a few are evil people that are responsible for the worlds evils.  Its the socialist doubletalk twostep.  I am sure that we can find evil actions by all societies throughout history.  But please cherry pick the evil catholics and their plight to destroy the earth. 

 

No catholic unless they are delusional supports priests raping children.  I think those priests should be excommunicated and tried for their crimes.  However who the hell are you to judge all catholics and lump them in because of your biggoted anti-religion view.  The church isnt preaching for the spread of aids.  What a myopic view you have of this issue.  GMAFB, If these poor african people are truly such good little catholics that they have to sit by doctrine law and dont use birth control, then what the hell are they doing having sex outside of the confines of marriage.  So there goes the misconception that aids in africa is the problem of the church and their stance on birth control, because if they decide to go poking around outside of marriage then they can put on a rubber. 

Maybe you can build a time machine and enjoy the roman empire and how they treated the catholics.

 

Excellent post.

 

Too bad it won't get through...

[Rex Kickass]

I love how people see someone attack a church apparatus and think of it as a direct attack on their faith.

 

On the whole has the Catholic Church apparatus done more good than bad? Probably. But that doesn't make the Church apparatus any less culpable or anymore excusable for actions that it has taken over the last fifty years. Using the Eucharist as a political tool is contrary to my faith's beliefs. Sadly, I agree with LCR. I think my faith and my religion got separated somewhere along the way. Maybe its because the current pope once said that people like me don't deserve human rights while he was a Cardinal. Or maybe its because I grew up with a Diocese that was more concerned with fundraising than doing the right thing.

 

I don't as an indictment of Catholics. I see this as an indictment of the church apparatus. And there's a big difference.

[jackie hayes]

Bulls***, Rex. First of all, LCR has also said that the Church is intentionally attempting to spread AIDS throughout the world, and "especially in Africa", and is trying to "strong-arm" politicians into supporting the war. Disgusting wacko conspiracy theories and pure lies are not excusable just because he's feeling particularly pissy today. And second, it's just nonsense to say that anyone who defends the Church in general (WITHOUT defending particular actions) is complicit. What, should Roman Catholics hate the Roman Catholic Church? How can you even call them Catholics then? Word choice doesn't change any of this -- Do you really think that the "Catholic Church apparatus" is any different than the "Catholic Church"?

[FlaSoxxJim]

I love how people see someone attack a church apparatus and think of it as a direct attack on their faith.

 

On the whole has the Catholic Church apparatus done more good than bad? Probably. But that doesn't make the Church apparatus any less culpable or anymore excusable for actions that it has taken over the last fifty years. Using the Eucharist as a political tool is contrary to my faith's beliefs. Sadly, I agree with LCR. I think my faith and my religion got separated somewhere along the way. Maybe its because the current pope once said that people like me don't deserve human rights while he was a Cardinal. Or maybe its because I grew up with a Diocese that was more concerned with fundraising than doing the right thing.

 

I don't as an indictment of Catholics. I see this as an indictment of the church apparatus. And there's a big difference.

 

Good to see some Catholics still can think for themselves and not rush to defend the atrocities of the Roman Catholic Church merely because it is the Roman Catholic Church, their Roman Catholic Church.

 

It's easy for the Church apologists to say, 'blame the rapists but don't condemn the entire Church,' but when it is the Church leadership at the very highest levels that has protected the rapists by reassigning them to new parishes and unwary fresh victims, I find that to be a wholly indefensible position.

 

(btw, I'm not condemning the rank and file churchmembers for anything other than being too weak to stand up to the fatally corrupt Church leadership. My beef on this issue is with the ordained pedophiles and the leadership that has enabled them through willful, forced suppression of the truth)

 

Compare the secret reassignments and cover-ups of the last 40 years – in which the parishoners upon which pedophile priests are thrown are told NOTHING about the past crimes – to the situation of those poor shmuck child rapists not fortunate enough to be in the priesthood. It's sure easy enough to find out when one of those guys land in your neighborhood (and I'm not saying that is wrong). But if some other sick f*** known to have done the same sick, CRIMINAL s*** happens to have bulls***ted his way into the priesthood, then they have their very own Rapist Relocation Program.

 

Bottom line for the last 4 decades, if you wanna f*** kids your best bet is to study up on that catechism.

 

I grew up in a staunch Roman Catholic family, even briefly considering seminary (strange but true), but I'm happy to say I've made a full recovery.