Recruiting Thread

[Palehosefan]

Mayo will play PG in college and will play PG in the NBA, just like Chris Paul. I guess Chris Paul isn't a PG though.

 

lol come on, thats like saying, "The sky is blue, but I guess my finger is never going to heal". Chris Paul and OJ Mayo are completely different players, different styles, different sizes, and different games. Paul has been a true PG all his life, and he's barely 6'. OJ Mayo has played alot of SG in his career, but plays some point for his high school team because he's their best ballhandler and passer as well as scorer. If Mayo had a true PG on his team, he would move to the 2G slot with Walker flanking him at the SF role. But they don't.

[nitetrain8601]

lol come on, thats like saying, "The sky is blue, but I guess my finger is never going to heal". Chris Paul and OJ Mayo are completely different players, different styles, different sizes, and different games. Paul has been a true PG all his life, and he's barely 6'. OJ Mayo has played alot of SG in his career, but plays some point for his high school team because he's their best ballhandler and passer as well as scorer. If Mayo had a true PG on his team, he would move to the 2G slot with Walker flanking him at the SF role. But they don't.

 

Uh the analogy doesn't fit at all. Both are scoring PG's. Or did you not know about Chris Paul's 63 point game in high school? They're both the same player, but OJ is supposed to be better. Paul has been a scoring PG with great passing skills his whole life, just like OJ. I guess you really haven't followed Paul or Mayo throughout their careers though.

[nitetrain8601]

Also here's scout.com's profile of OJ to backup my claims:

 

STRENGTHS

3-Point Range

Ability to Create

Basketball IQ

 

AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT

Mid-Range Game

 

Special guard prospect. Will be a big point guard. Terrific range and confidence. We are talking about an impact player with legit star power. Skilled on the perimeter and an excellent finisher. Will set guys up and has a tremendous feel to go with a pace about his game. Poise has been a big asset.

 

Scouting One of the most unselfish stars in years. He passes the ball like an advanced player, shoots it deep and there's no way to stop him off the drive in high school. Big time competitor who consistently wins, meets challenges and sets the bar for kids in his class.

 

SOPH Co-MVP of ABCD underclassman all-star game. Terrific summer performer. Enters his sophomore season as the best PG in America.

 

FR Perhaps the best freshman in the nation. Mayo led Rose Hill (KY) Christian Academy to the Sweet 16 as an 8th grader, averaging 20.5 ppg. He was named first team all-state in 2002-03 and attended the 2003 adidas ABCD Camp. Led team to 15 and under title at Kingwood in April 2004.

[Palehosefan]

Uh the analogy doesn't fit at all. Both are scoring PG's. Or did you not know about Chris Paul's 63 point game in high school? They're both the same player, but OJ is supposed to be better. Paul has been a scoring PG with great passing skills his whole life, just like OJ. I guess you really haven't followed Paul or Mayo throughout their careers though.

 

That is ridiculous analysis. Lets see here.

 

Daniel Horton scored as many points as Chris Paul in high school, and is 3 inches taller, therefore he must be a better version of OJ Mayo, I'll inform the scouts.

 

By the way, Paul scored 61 in a game, not 63, it was for his grandfather who was slain at 61 years old.

Edited March 2, 2006 by Palehosefan

[nitetrain8601]

That is ridiculous analysis. Lets see here.

 

Daniel Horton scored as many points as Chris Paul in high school, and is 3 inches taller, therefore he must be a better version of OJ Mayo, I'll inform the scouts.

 

By the way, Paul scored 61 in a game, not 63, it was for his grandfather who was slain at 61 years old.

 

How is it ridiculous? I even gave evidence to back it up. They're the same player. I don't know why you want to acknowledge that fact. And I'm sorry, 61 points. All I know is it was for his grandfather and he had a chance for 62, but missed a FT to commerate his grandfather.

 

I also don't get your Daniel Horton comment at all. Daniel Horton doesn't have the ball-handling or passing skills of a Chris Paul or OJ Mayo. He could score possibly better than both though. And he was never as touted as Mayo and Paul for a reason. Maybe I'm missing something here.

Edited March 2, 2006 by nitetrain8601

[Palehosefan]

I also don't get your Daniel Horton comment at all. Daniel Horton doesn't have the ball-handling or passing skills of a Chris Paul or OJ Mayo. Maybe I'm missing something here. 

 

My point is that comparing Chris Paul to Mayo is very odd. Paul has always been a pure point guard. Paul is a slight 6' pure PG that gambles on defense, but comes up with steals. Mayo is a 6'4 and growing combo guard that plays PG on his high school team because he also happens to be the best ballhandler and passer on his squad. Mayo has ridiculous athletecism and finishes plays above the rim unlike Paul. Mayo loves to take his game outside, while Paul drives most plays. Mayo will not play PG at the pro level, he's way too special of a scorer to have that taken away by having him distribute the ball to others. He's the kind of special talent that will come into the league as a rookie at the 2G spot and average 20+ppg. He's similar to Chris Paul in that he has played PG for his team, and he can put the ball in the hole, otherwise their games are completely different.

[nitetrain8601]

My point is that comparing Chris Paul to Mayo is very odd. Paul has always been a pure point guard. Paul is a slight 6' pure PG that gambles on defense, but comes up with steals. Mayo is a 6'4 and growing combo guard that plays PG on his high school team because he also happens to be the best ballhandler and passer on his squad. Mayo has ridiculous athletecism and finishes plays above the rim unlike Paul. Mayo loves to take his game outside, while Paul drives most plays. Mayo will not play PG at the pro level, he's way too special of a scorer to have that taken away by having him distribute the ball to others. He's the kind of special talent that will come into the league as a rookie at the 2G spot and average 20+ppg.  He's similar to Chris Paul in that he has played PG for his team, and he can put the ball in the hole, otherwise their games are completely different.

 

I bet you any amount of cash that he plays PG in the league.

[thedoctor]

this could be of interest to heads and any other iowa state fans we have here. looks like a player we talked about earlier, point guard jeremy fears (formerly of ohio u), is seriously considering if not already committed to transferring to isu.

 

fears was ranked as one of the top-10 point guards in the nation by jay bilas prior to the season. last year he led ohio to a tournament berth and near first-round upset of florida. however, he struggled to adjust to ou's slower tempo this year and fell out of favor with ou's coach.

 

here are some links:

 

chicagohoops.com

 

hoopfactor.com (scroll past waters' story)

[Heads22]

It sounds like he is exactly the point guard that will fit into our system. If Degand's worth a s***, it'll be a fun battle, along with Westbrook and Stinnett in the back court as well. Could be fun.

[Jimbo's Drinker]

It sounds like he is exactly the point guard that will fit into our system. If Degand's worth a s***, it'll be a fun battle, along with Westbrook and Stinnett in the back court as well. Could be fun.

 

 

If he likes throwing punches and being undisciplined on the court, he will fit in perfectly....

 

haha just a joke, dont want him to go there, though i have no idae who he is.

[whitesoxfan101]

Fears best attributes are his length and athletic ability, which allow him to play either guard spot, and he's a very smooth passer who unlike many guards these days finds the man in the post and gets him the ball in position to score.

[whitesoxfan101]

Of Illini recruiting interest tonight.....

 

Eric Gordon scored 45 points in almost single handedly leading his team to a 59-57 victory and a sectional championship (although regionals are after sectionals in Indiana mind you).

 

Mike Tisdale had 18 points, 9 rebounds, and 4 blocks as his team won it's Class A Sectional Championship game 45-41. They advance to the Super Sectionals (Sweet 16) next Tuesday, and will have a touch matchup against Macomb at WIU.

 

Bill Cole and Brian Carlwell's teams both won low scoring Regional Championship games, no numbers available on either of them though as of now.

[whitesoxfan101]

Recruiting updates:

 

Bill Cole (Illini 2007) had 18 points, 7 rebounds, 3 blocks at Richwoods advanced to the sectional title game with a 42-37 win over East Moline United Township.

 

Richard Semrau (Illini 2006) and his team fell to 22-1 and were eliminated from tournament play as Semrau scored 12 points in limited minutes due to a foot injury.

 

Eric Gordon (Illini 2007) and his team were elminated the other night, despite 22 points from Gordon, in a loss to Carmel HS (random note: how the hell are they that good after losing McRoberts?)

 

Mike Tisdale (Illini 2007) had 15 points and 10 rebounds in his teams super sectional (sweet 16) loss at Macomb. Damn shame, 1 game from getting downstate, woulda loved to see him play.

 

Brian Carlwell (Illini 2006) had a dominating 23 points, 18 rebounds, 6 blocks, 11-12 from the line performance as Proviso East advanced to the sectional title game with a 79-66 win over Curie.

 

All 16 Illinois AA sectional championship games are Friday night. Of note for Illini recruiting fans....

 

Westchester (St. Joseph) vs. Proviso East: Carwell and Pullen vs. McCamey, Turner, and Peoples. That should be a hell of a game, and it has Carlwell (an Illini verbal) and McCamey and Turner, 2 guys the Illini have a lot of interest in (especially Turner).

 

Peoria (Richwoods) vs. Washington: Cole AND Jamar Smith couldn't overcome Washington and potential Illini recruit Matt Roth (only a sophomore) last year, so Cole better be ready to go.

 

Chicago (Simeon) vs. Oak Lawn (Richards): Possibly still potential Illini target Derrick Rose gets a pretty tough test against NIU signee Cody Yelder and red hot Richards.

 

Also, keep an eye on potential 2008 targets DeAndre Liggins of Chicago (Washington) (taking on Thornwood) and the already mentioned Roth of Washington.

[Heads22]

101, any news on Nayal (Mac) Koshwal? I'm at work right now....

[whitesoxfan101]

101, any news on Nayal (Mac) Koshwal? I'm at work right now....

 

Umm in terms of game updates, he plays at Boys to Men which isn't IHSA, therefore it's just about impossible to see how he's doing in games. In terms of his recruitment, there hasn't been anything new lately, ISU has an offer on the table and is definitely the leader though.

[Jimbo's Drinker]

Potential and looking like hopeful KU recrity. Darrel Slim shady Arthur has his team in the finals.

 

He had 33 pts and 13 boards last night.

[whitesoxfan101]

Brian Carlwell with 30 points, 15 rebounds, and 6 blocks as his team Proviso East defeats national top 25 ranked St. Joesph's 75-72 to win the sectional championship.

 

Also, Bill Cole had an off night with 4 points and 8 rebounds, but drew triple teams all night and was a big part in Richwoods 57-46 win over Washington to win the sectional championship.

Edited March 11, 2006 by whitesoxfan101

[whitesoxfan101]

Obviously recruiting is on the backburner this time of year, but some encouraging news for the Illini. 2007 small forward Kodi Augustus of Missouri City, Texas says his 2 favorites are Illinois and Florida. The Illini have not offered yet and Florida has, and Augustus is a high 3 star (Rivals 150) player at the moment, who according to the article will soon be moved into the top 100 and become a 4 star recruit. Here is a link to his current profile, although it has Illinois as low interest and Augustus only as a 3 star, so it's not all that updated.

 

http://illinois.rivals.com/viewprospect.as...=2&pr_key=38971

[ZoomSlowik]

Interesting, Scout.com has Augustus listed as a senior. Is he going to have to go the prep school route or something?

[whitesoxfan101]

Interesting, Scout.com has Augustus listed as a senior. Is he going to have to go the prep school route or something?

 

He re-classified and is going to prep school in Maine next year, but since Scout doens't update enough it hasn't pointed that out yet lol.

[ZoomSlowik]

He re-classified and is going to prep school in Maine next year, but since Scout doens't update enough it hasn't pointed that out yet lol.

 

Actually I think they had a note saying that, but they didn't update his placement. Typically I find they're a little more up to date than Rivals, at least for the free material.

[SleepyWhiteSox]

Rose's brother dispels DePaul Internet rumor

 

Reggie Rose was in his seat almost an hour before the Glenbrook North-Simeon quarterfinal game, deflating Internet rumors that his younger brother, Simeon star Derrick Rose, had named DePaul as the leader in his recruitment.

 

"Derrick hasn't talked to anybody about that, and neither have I,'' Reggie Rose said. "We haven't been dealing with recruiting. The last month has been focused on winning state. We have all summer to deal with the recruiting. Derrick will be signed, sealed and delivered by the start of his senior year.''

 

The fact that it would even be a rumor kinda got me excited...

 

 

RIP Coach

[whitesoxfan101]

Bradley with good news on the recruting front. They already have a good class coming in next year in 6-5 wing Andrew Warren of Indianapolis and 6-10 (6-11 in shoes) 3 star big man Xavier Crawford of Richfield, Minnesota (Patrick O'Bryant part 2?). Earlier this week Bradley received it's first class of 2007 verbal in 3 star PG 6'0 Sammy Maniscalco of Chicago St. Patrick's. He picked Bradley over strong Horizon League interest as well as interest from DePaul.

 

Xavier Crawford (2006):

http://illinois.rivals.com/viewprospect.as...=2&pr_key=29510

 

Sammy Maniscalco (2007):

http://illinois.rivals.com/viewprospect.as...=2&pr_key=50542

 

Les is an awesome recruiter as you can see by the striking talent on his team, and he continues to rake in the talent. I know he's a Bradley graduate, but I wonder how much longer it is until a big school throws a truckload of money at him.

Edited March 23, 2006 by whitesoxfan101

[AddisonStSox]

Bradley with good news on the recruting front.  They already have a good class coming in next year in 6-5 wing Andrew Warren of Indianapolis and 6-10 (6-11 in shoes) 3 star big man Xavier Crawford of Richfield, Minnesota (Patrick O'Bryant part 2?).  Earlier this week Bradley received it's first class of 2007 verbal in 3 star PG 6'0 Sammy Maniscalco of Chicago St. Patrick's.  He picked Bradley over strong Horizon League interest as well as interest from DePaul.

 

Xavier Crawford (2006):

http://illinois.rivals.com/viewprospect.as...=2&pr_key=29510

 

Sammy Maniscalco (2007):

http://illinois.rivals.com/viewprospect.as...=2&pr_key=50542

 

Les is an awesome recruiter as you can see by the striking talent on his team, and he continues to rake in the talent.  I know he's a Bradley graduate, but I wonder how much longer it is until a big school throws a truckload of money at him.

 

Jim Les, give it up for the former Don Of Notre Dame High School.

 

Two things: I just read on Yahoo that O.J. Mayo and one other prospect are thinking about following Huggins wherever he goes, which, as of late last night, will be Kansas St.

 

Also, what's up with Derrick Rose? I'm just really, really hoping he decides to play with Gordon at Illinois. Has he decided on somewhere? Are talks off with the Illini?

 

Thanks.

[thedoctor]

Jim Les, give it up for the former Don Of Notre Dame High School.

 

Two things: I just read on Yahoo that O.J. Mayo and one other prospect are thinking about following Huggins wherever he goes, which, as of late last night, will be Kansas St.

 

Also, what's up with Derrick Rose?  I'm just really, really hoping he decides to play with Gordon at Illinois.  Has he decided on somewhere?  Are talks off with the Illini?

 

Thanks.

 

yeah, mayo and walker are pretty tight with huggins. iirc, they even hang out at his house now, because there are obviously no restrictions any more for him. in addition to those to there's some other 6-11 kid who's name escapes me who is supposed to be following him.

 

i know huggins has followed mayo and walker pretty closely. i did see him at one of their games earlier this year.

 

in terms of rose, there has really been nothing new reported. there's a lot of misinformation floating around out there. in the past few months various rumors have stated he's crossed illinois off his list, he's been a day away from committing to illinois, he's committing to depaul, he's not committing to depaul etc., etc.

 

the only statement that has been made is that he will decide before his next high school season. imo, it will come down between north carolina and illinois. my gut says he goes to carolina, although i hope i'm wrong.