Recruiting Thread

[Heads22]

Yes he is, and I believe he's the lead guy on any talented recruits the Hawks snag, or at least, that's been said.

[Chisoxfn]

Yes he is, and I believe he's the lead guy on any talented recruits the Hawks snag, or at least, that's been said.

Ya, he's taken the head of the recruiting and looks to be putting together an outstanding 08 class.

[Chisoxfn]

Their is some talk that the Hawkeyes are sleepers for Jai Lucas (son of former NBA player John Lucas). Lucas is a 4 star recruit for the 07 class and his father is very good friends with our recruiting expert extraordinare. Apparently Lucas is interested because Iowa will have just Freeman at the PG position next year and that means he'll be able to get a lot of minutes early.

 

Lucas is the 6th ranked PG of the 07 class and would be a major pickup to go with a couple 3 stars we have coming in. Match that with Tyler Smith and our other guys and than our studly 08 class (as of now 2 4 star recruits and Jackson/Negedu are both very interested in Iowa) and we are talking about some really skilled guys Iowa should have around.

 

The key will be for them not to totally blow this season to the point that we could scare off some of those potential recruits.

[Heads22]

Justin Johnson has been starting at PG for Iowa so I'm not sure what you are talking about.

[Chisoxfn]

Justin Johnson has been starting at PG for Iowa so I'm not sure what you are talking about.

JJ is considered more of a 2 guard though. Its just that with Henderson having been out we've been forced to put JJ in a position he's not as used to.

[Heads22]

JJ is considered more of a 2 guard though. Its just that with Henderson having been out we've been forced to put JJ in a position he's not as used to.

 

Alford said in the last week he likes being able to use JJ at the point and Freeman at the offguard, with Henderson back.

[Chisoxfn]

Iowa is also an apparent front runner (although Wiscy is very close) for RB John Clay (4 star rivals; 5 star scout). Other big time schools are also on his interest list (OSU, Tenn, & Nebraska)

[Soxbadger]

Its been down to Iowa and Wisconsin since a late season visit to Iowa.

 

Clay is announcing at the Army All-American game, Wisconsin fans will say that he is a Wisconsin lean, but Iowa fans will say hes an Iowa lean.

 

Basically it could go either way, but my guess is that he will remain in state.

[Heads22]

Jason, if Ferentz leaves for the Steelers this offseason, which I doubt, you still ain't getting Stoops.

[Chisoxfn]

Jason, if Ferentz leaves for the Steelers this offseason, which I doubt, you still ain't getting Stoops.

I bet we'd have a chance. Stoops loves Iowa. That said the timing may not be right for him to come back. But please please don't even mention the thought of Ferentz leaving.

[Heads22]

I bet we'd have a chance. Stoops loves Iowa. That said the timing may not be right for him to come back. But please please don't even mention the thought of Ferentz leaving.

 

He's a hell of a coach. I just hope we've got a better one in Ames.

 

Stoops coming to Iowa would be on par with when Johnny Orr left Michigan for Iowa State. People wondering "Huh???"

[Nokona]

Ferentz isnt leaving. Come on now.

 

I love the Bernstine pick up along with the kid from Jersey (was it Morrows i forget?) Can't wait to see them in the defensive backfield. If we don't get Clay I'd bet we'll land Dale Martin instead.

[whitesoxfan101]

Ferentz isnt leaving. Come on now.

 

I love the Bernstine pick up along with the kid from Jersey (was it Morrows i forget?) Can't wait to see them in the defensive backfield. If we don't get Clay I'd bet we'll land Dale Martin instead.

 

Bernstine is a HUGE get. You guys somehow let the last 4 star footballer from Iowa get out (Adrian Arrington to Michigan), so you had to get him. I also agree with you about Ferentz, if he's not gone now, I dunno if he ever will be, and as for RB.....the Clay thing could go any which way it seems like now, that has been a confusing process, but you guys will get Dale Martin either way, and he's a very solid 4 star RB.

 

And will all due respect to your sites fearless leader, if Ferentz were to go to the Steelers (which he won't, they'll keep that job in the family), there is no chance he goes to Iowa. He has a 10 times better recruiting base at Oklahoma and far more prestige.

[aboz56]

In a matchup of future Big Ten rivals, Eric Gordon scored a career-high 50 points Friday to lift North Central over East Chicago 73-62 in the championship game of the North Central Tournament.

 

The Class 4A No. 1 Panthers (8-0) took a 19-8 lead after the first quarter but had to work to hold off the Cardinals (6-2).

 

Gordon, who will attend Indiana University, shot 17-of-24 overall, including 4-of-7 on 3-point attempts. Gordon made 12-of-13 free throws and had 11 rebounds.

 

East Chicago's E'Twaun Moore, who will attend Purdue, scored 27 points, but he took 30 shots. He made 2-of-15 3-pointers.

[He_Gawn]

God, next year with EJ we should be sick.

Edited December 30, 2006 by He_Gawn

[Rex Hudler]

God, next year with EJ we should be sick.

 

Esp since D. J. White should be back.

 

On a football note:

 

Michigan 5-star QB recruit Ryan Mallet has already enrolled in school and will begin classes after the Jan. 6 All-American All-Star Game. He'll have a head start going into spring practice.

[Palehosefan]

Ryan Mallet

 

There's not going to be a better QB in the class, he's amazing. Huge and an NFL arm already.

[He_Gawn]

Thats what a lot of Michigan fans were saying about Clayton Richard (Who is now in the Sox minors) who was the first person ever in Indiana to make all state all 4 years as a high schooler and won Mr. Football as a senior. I remember he had an absoulute cannon for an arm too. Also do not forget about Clausen, who has yet to lose a game in his career. He's been getting a huge amount of hype from ESPN since he was a freshman in high school.

Edited December 30, 2006 by He_Gawn

[Palehosefan]

I like Claussen alot as well, I'm not one of those that doesn't buy into the hype. Maybe it's because his throwing style is a mirror image of what Jeff Tedford teaches, but Claussen reminds me of Aaron Rodgers, except that Claussen has a better arm.

 

But Ryan Mallett really is looking like Roethlisberger did before the motorcycle accident.

 

Both players can make all the throws, but I like Mallett's size and that he likes to get outside the pocket and make plays. Both guys will be AA's and 1st round picks in the draft 3-4 years from now, barring injury of course. You can't go wrong with either. John Brantley is the only other guy in their class as QB's this year, and he's going to be stuck behind Tebow for atleast 2-3 years at Florida. After that, there's a dropoff to the next guys.

 

Not that it matters, but I think Willy Korn is the most overrated QB in the class.

[whitesoxfan101]

Claussen is the most overrated, overhyped prospect i've ever seen. He got fat on inferior competition with great talent on his team, and will be a bust just like his brothers. Not a slight towards Notre Dame though, they have recruited well at QB recently and have some other guys that actually are really good and will step in, Demetrius Jones among others. But ol' Jimmy is Ron Pawlus part 2, just hope he doesn't get as much PT as the latter did.

[He_Gawn]

Claussen is the most overrated, overhyped prospect i've ever seen. He got fat on inferior competition with great talent on his team, and will be a bust just like his brothers. Not a slight towards Notre Dame though, they have recruited well at QB recently and have some other guys that actually are really good and will step in, Demetrius Jones among others. But ol' Jimmy is Ron Pawlus part 2, just hope he doesn't get as much PT as the latter did.

 

What are you talking about? He did not lose a game in high school! And Marc Tyler broke his leg the last game of the regular season so you can't even say he wasnt the one who led them to another title.

Edited December 31, 2006 by He_Gawn

[whitesox61382]

Claussen is the most overrated, overhyped prospect i've ever seen. He got fat on inferior competition with great talent on his team, and will be a bust just like his brothers. Not a slight towards Notre Dame though, they have recruited well at QB recently and have some other guys that actually are really good and will step in, Demetrius Jones among others. But ol' Jimmy is Ron Pawlus part 2, just hope he doesn't get as much PT as the latter did.

 

I can't believe that I might actually agree with you on something. I am a huge Irish fan, but I do think Claussen is a bit overrated. I have watched three of his games over the past two years and although he has put up some solid numbers in each game, I didn't see the number one rated prospect in high school football. I saw a lot of potential flaws(mobility, arm strength, decision making at times, taking all his snaps out of the shotgun) in his game. I still think he can be a good QB at the college level, but I didn't see the future star that others see. Than again, I am far from been a college/pro scout so take my word with a grain of salt if you like. In regards to his record, you have to first take into consideration the fact that they play in an average league at best and rarely play the top teams in the state of California. Secondly, anyone who followed OC knows that Tyler carried this team and that a great running game allowed Claussen to be an effective passer. OC struggled a little once Tyler went down, but Jones stepped up and showed why he is one of the most highly recruited players in high school football(likely to play safety at SC). Furthermore, anyone who watched the championship game got a first hand view of Claussen's flaws. Time will tell, but I think DD might end up being the better college QB.

[Palehosefan]

Watch either of these video's and you won't queston his arm strength or whether he takes enough snaps from behind center. There's a reason he's the top recruit in the nation according to one service. He's got the mechanics down already, has arm strength for all the throws, and is a winner, regardless of talent surrounding him.

 

http://scout.Scout.com/asxplaylist.aspx?s=...mediaids=265950

http://scout.Scout.com/asxplaylist.aspx?s=...mediaids=258783

 

I'm not a Notre Dame fan and I would have loved nothing more than to watch him play and see an overrated recruit that got the Notre Dame recruiting boost, but I don't see one here.

Edited December 31, 2006 by Palehosefan

[whitesox61382]

Watch either of these video's and you won't queston his arm strength or whether he takes enough snaps from behind center. There's a reason he's the top recruit in the nation according to one service. He's got the mechanics down already, has arm strength for all the throws, and is a winner, regardless of talent surrounding him.

 

http://scout.Scout.com/asxplaylist.aspx?s=...mediaids=265950

http://scout.Scout.com/asxplaylist.aspx?s=...mediaids=258783

 

I'm not a Notre Dame fan and I would have loved nothing more than to watch him play and see an overrated recruit that got the Notre Dame recruiting boost, but I don't see one here.

 

I hate making an argument against a recruit for a team that I truly love, but I learned a long time ago to be realistic with all the teams that I follow. I wasn't able to open either video, but I am sure that they are highlight videos, which only show the positive aspects of a player while almost complete ignoring any potential negative aspects. They are fun for fans to watch and get excited about, but are next to worthless for anyone who is truly trying to evaulate a prospect/recruit.

 

Like I said before, I watched three full OC games over the past two years and I know what I saw. I saw a QB with questionable arm strength at times. Not having the ability to accurately make the depth throw and/or not being able to get the ball to the receiver when he was open. I don't have an exact number, but I would estimate that around 90% of his passes in the games that I watched were ten yards or less in the air.

 

Furthermore, in every game he made at least two or three throws that would be considered poor decisions, such as trying to force balls into double or triple coverage. At the high school level, most of those passes fall incomplete, but at the college level a handful of them will be intercepted.

 

I would compare his mobility to Peyton Manning, and by that I mean that he is very slow but is mobile enough to ellude the rush and hang in the pocket. With that said, his intangibles are not on Peyton's level at this point, so his lack of mobility is a little more evident.

 

I live out West and follow California high school football a little, and I can tell you that OC played in a very weak league and rarely played the top teams in the state of California or the West Coast for that matter. It is still impressive to have his overall record, but to go undefeated in the MAC by comparison is a lot different than going undefeated in the Big Ten.

 

Anyone who has watched OC play knows that Tyler made this team go. It was no surprise that OC struggled a little after Tyler went down even though they had a great recruit in Jones step up and fill in. This was never more evident than the championship game when Jones, not Clausen, was responsible for leading them to victory.

 

There is a reason why Clausen fell from the top spot in both the ESPN and Scout rankings, and why he is likely to fall even further in the final rankings after his poor championship game performance. With that said, I do think Clausen is going to be a very good college QB, I simple don't see the best high school QB in the past decade when I watch him though. Like I said, take my opinion with a grain of salt, but that is the opinion that I have developed after watching him with my own two eyes.

[Capn12]

Spurrier hates recruiting? Not sure who spread that mistruth years ago at Florida. Now up to 8th overall with this class so far, and 5 star DE Carlos Dunlap still expected to announce USCs way....go get em Spur!