Palehosefan Posted January 7, 2007 Author Share Posted January 7, 2007 It wasn't the best players in the nation in the bowl, it was some of the best players in the nation, then some random people that have family in the NFL or connections. There was a QB in the game that is a 1 star recruit, has NO offers, but happened to have the last name of Mara. Rivals.com has started their own bowl called the Offense-Defense bowl that had some good prospects as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox61382 Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 I know that some ND fans are a little upset that ND didn't get as many commitments as expected yesterday, and ND haters are having a field day, but lets put things into perspective. ND is still guaranteed a top ten class for the second year in a row(probably top five if they can land Blackwell). When was the last time that happened at ND with the poor recruiting of the Davis and Willingham eras? Furthermore, a lot of people like to point out that ND can't recruit defensive talent, but if you look at the last two classes you will see quite a bit of defensive talent. Here is a breakdown as things currently stand: DT - This has been the weakest position in recruiting over the past two years. Landing Blackwell would drastically change that. LSU already having three four-star DT in this years class might help ND. *Mullen - was a three star TE who was converted to DT, only about two-seventy but has good quickness. *Williams - just missed out on a four star ranking on rivals, but made the top one-fifty on ESPN, a big three hundred pound run stuffer. DE - ND has added three highly rated DE over the last two years, including two highly underrated prospects in this years class. *Ryan - three star DE that has ideal size at this point (6'5 two-fifty). *Wade - just missed a four star ranking and was rated the tenth best WDE in country last year. *Neal - three star DE(although ESPN has him as the twenty-fifth best player OVERALL); take high school stats with a grain of salt, but this kid had one-hundred plus tackles, twenty plus tackles for loss, and double digit sacks his senior year. *Trattou - four star DE; will see his rating improve in the next ranking; was the star player on an undefeated top ten ranked team; was considered the second best DE at the AAA game behind Griffen; dominated practice at the AAA game to the point where they moved Austin to OT to try and stop him. LB - Didn't land the difference maker they were looking for(Edwards or Donald) and don't have great depth, but they do have a solid group over the past two seasons. *Richardson - three star LB; hybrid between DE and OLB; was used as pass rushing DE this past season. *TSmith - three star LB who just missed four star rating; underrated MLB who will probably start next year; doesn't wow you with his size or speed, but just makes plays. *Nagel - three star LB who played in the AAA game; LB with safety speed and quickness. *Paskorz - one of the top players in the state of Penn; four star athlete; was known more as a RB in high school; has good size and speed and will likely play LB at ND. CB - This is probably the strongest group over the past two years. ND has landed three CB that ranked in the top ten in their overall CB class. *McNeil - four star CB; ranked as the 7th best CB last year; has ideal size(6'0) and speed(four-four). *Walls - four star CB; ranked as third best CB last year; also has ideal size(6'0) and speed(four-four); played some last year. *Gray - four star CB; ranked as fourth best CB this year; doesn't have great size or speed, but is an underrated prospect who played very well in the AAA game. S - ND has added quality depth at this position with one potential playmaker in HSmith *Brown - three star S with very good speed and cover skills. *Gaines - three star S who is a big hitter and great against the run. *Gordon - three star S who is also a big hitter and good against the run. *HSmith - four star S; think Zibby with a little more size, speed, and experience as safety. So as you can see, ND has gotten some pretty good talent on the defensive side of the ball, especially at the DE and CB positions. ND still has a decent shot at landing DT Blackwell(50/50 between LSU and ND), have a slim chance with LB MSmith(likely headed the SC), and a slim chance with S Wright(likely headed to OSU). All three of those guys are potential difference makers that have the ability to start from day one, so landing any of those three guys would be huge. There has also been some talk of moving some top offensive players to the defensive side of the ball: Tate(from WR to CB), GLittle(from WR to LB), and Olsen(from OL to DT). Do these two classes have the makings of a dominating D that will carry ND? No, but it should improve the talent and depth level on the defensive side of the ball and provide ND with a respectable D. Besides, with Weis as the offensive coach and the type of offensive prospects he is bringing in, ND's D doesn't need to be great to contend for a BCS bowl(no smartass comments). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Illinois signs another 3 star basketball recruit and no mention. God i feel for you illini fans, such an awesome and loyal fan base and coming off such a great 3 years. Weber is now stealing players from the likes of Utah, Sd State etc..... oh well, god bless self!!!(well his recruiting that is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jan 8, 2007 -> 05:19 AM) Illinois signs another 3 star basketball recruit and no mention. God i feel for you illini fans, such an awesome and loyal fan base and coming off such a great 3 years. Weber is now stealing players from the likes of Utah, Sd State etc..... four-star per rivals, fwiw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) Nebraska None None New Mexico None None San Diego St. None None Utah None None Washington St. None None Nevada None None Quinton Watkins Video Reels must have been way under the radar. Edited January 8, 2007 by Jimbo's Drinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 QUOTE(thedoctor @ Jan 7, 2007 -> 11:28 PM) four-star per rivals, fwiw Hope that means Leon Freeman to DePaul, pending his grades. Probably between us and louisville... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Watkins has a really long release, could be a problem at the next level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spod=Ratings Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jan 7, 2007 -> 11:19 PM) Illinois signs another 3 star basketball recruit and no mention. God i feel for you illini fans, such an awesome and loyal fan base and coming off such a great 3 years. Weber is now stealing players from the likes of Utah, Sd State etc..... oh well, god bless self!!!(well his recruiting that is) Yes you better say to recruiting, becasue as long as self is there you will have great talent and not do a singe thing in the tourny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 QUOTE(Spod=Ratings @ Jan 8, 2007 -> 02:25 AM) Yes you better say to recruiting, becasue as long as self is there you will have great talent and not do a singe thing in the tourny. dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jan 7, 2007 -> 11:19 PM) Illinois signs another 3 star basketball recruit and no mention. God i feel for you illini fans, such an awesome and loyal fan base and coming off such a great 3 years. Weber is now stealing players from the likes of Utah, Sd State etc..... oh well, god bless self!!!(well his recruiting that is) Ya he's a 4 star and top 100 on Rivals though, still not a stud, though. By the way, you feeling sorry for Illini fans? You feel ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jan 8, 2007 -> 11:08 AM) Ya he's a 4 star and top 100 on Rivals though, still not a stud, though. By the way, you feeling sorry for Illini fans? You feel ok? haha yeah i grew up a huge illini fan, still have some loyalty. I just like having fun with you guys, its fun banter. Im feeling really good, KU is on a roll and ready for a gigantic conference opener against OK STATE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jan 8, 2007 -> 11:15 AM) haha yeah i grew up a huge illini fan, still have some loyalty. I just like having fun with you guys, its fun banter. Im feeling really good, KU is on a roll and ready for a gigantic conference opener against OK STATE. According to Scout.com: San Diego State High Interest Yes None Nevada Med Interest Yes None Utah Med Interest Yes None Washington State Med Interest Yes None Once they declare, they put none and none cuz, well, he already verballed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spod=Ratings Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jan 8, 2007 -> 08:42 AM) dumb Just a little smack talk against the ole ball coach Edited January 9, 2007 by Spod=Ratings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He_Gawn Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Chris Little is IRISH! Switched over from FSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jan 8, 2007 -> 05:19 AM) Illinois signs another 3 star basketball recruit and no mention. God i feel for you illini fans, such an awesome and loyal fan base and coming off such a great 3 years. Weber is now stealing players from the likes of Utah, Sd State etc..... oh well, god bless self!!!(well his recruiting that is) What's funny about this is that Kansas was also recruiting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 02:37 PM) What's funny about this is that Kansas was also recruiting him. When was kansas recruiting him? Or was it a phone call deal where he listed them to hype himself up. We are too busy bringing in actual talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 02:50 PM) We are too busy bringing in actual talent. Top 100 players lack talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 This recruiting class is up to 8th in the nation, with a few 4 and 5 star players left on the board, and 4th in the SEC still!! Such is the life in the best football conference around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jan 11, 2007 -> 03:45 PM) Top 100 players lack talent? Top 100 in one of the publications....but hey hes probably better than Greg Paulus, we can all agree on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 QUOTE(Spod=Ratings @ Jan 8, 2007 -> 02:25 AM) Yes you better say to recruiting, becasue as long as self is there you will have great talent and not do a singe thing in the tourny. As long as Self's at KU and Bruce is at Illinois KU will continue to be the better program. No first round flameout for KU this year either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jan 12, 2007 -> 01:32 AM) As long as Self's at KU and Bruce is at Illinois KU will continue to be the better program. No first round flameout for KU this year either. LordI hope not, this is getting disheartening..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jan 12, 2007 -> 01:32 AM) As long as Self's at KU and Bruce is at Illinois KU will continue to be the better program. No first round flameout for KU this year either. Until Illinois is no longer the "Best Program not to have won a championship" KU will alwyas be the better program. It has better roots...and always will have, no matter the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jan 12, 2007 -> 11:22 AM) Until Illinois is no longer the "Best Program not to have won a championship" KU will alwyas be the better program. It has better roots...and always will have, no matter the coach. KU and Illnois are not on the same level historically. KU createdt the sport, and ranks in the top 3 in total program wins. However, KU in the last 20 years has gone from glory to a choke session. We just need that one to turn it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 illinois football added a new defensive line recruit today, 6-foot-4, 320-pound defensive tackle renaldo sagesse out of montreal. he's only rated a three-star prospect, primarily because he's canadian, doesn't speak much english, and hasn't been scouted heavily. however his is a monster and has some ridiculous speed measureable and reportedly is running sub-4.8 40s. who knows how accurate that is. sagesse either way, the defensive line recruiting has been stellar in this class, which is important considering that's possibly our weakest defensive position. however, there has been rumors that d'angelo mccray is waffling on his commitment, so i'm not counting on him until his fax arrives in champaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 (edited) 4-star safety Jerimy Finch and 3-star DT Jeff Boyd, both of Warren Central, commited to Indiana yesterday. Finch used to be commited to Michigan. Will this have a big impact on their program, or will it not mean much? Edited January 15, 2007 by farmteam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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