SSH2005 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...t=.jsp&c_id=cwsHermanson was hampered by severe and chronic back issues that limited him to one postseason appearance, but general manager Ken Williams has mentioned on a couple of offseason occasions that Hermanson's condition is improving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Dammit, as far as I can tell based on the fact that KW reportedly said that...the first thing my mind told me was that this means Hermy is worse than we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 We can always sign Billy Koch if we get in trouble with Hermy's back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted January 12, 2006 Author Share Posted January 12, 2006 Here's the scarier part of the article... http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...t=.jsp&c_id=cws Young and inexperienced hurlers, such as left-handers Arnie Munoz (23 years old) and Paulino Reynoso (25) and right-handers Jeff Bajenaru (27) and Sean Tracey (25), will compete for the final spot or two in relief. It all depends on Guillen's desire to keep 11 or 12 pitchers. The White Sox have the ultimate confidence in any of this quartet who could make the team. It's the same confidence that helped relievers such as Jenks and Cotts quickly become dominant relievers at the Major League level. "We traded Aaron Rowand and a young player like Brian Anderson now will get an opportunity," Cooper said. "It's going to be the same opportunity for some of our young pitchers to step up and produce." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I think Baj and Tracey could be very good.....Munoz and Reynoso shouldn't be allowed in the stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 If Hermanson can't go, and a veteran does not make it out of ST, I'm hoping and praying it is Bajenaru that makes it. Partly because he is a Soxtalk poster, but also because he has been dominant in the minors the past 2 years. I want the Sox to give him a shot very, very badly. Just gotta hope he pitches his ass off and makes the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted January 12, 2006 Author Share Posted January 12, 2006 (edited) If Hermanson can't go, and a veteran does not make it out of ST, I'm hoping and praying it is Bajenaru that makes it. Partly because he is a Soxtalk poster, but also because he has been dominant in the minors the past 2 years. I want the Sox to give him a shot very, very badly. Just gotta hope he pitches his ass off and makes the team. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bajenaru could make the team even if Hermanson is healthy if Ozzie elects to go with seven guys in the bullpen instead of six. We could have only four guys off the bench (Mackowiak, Ozuna, Borchard, Widger) due to Mackowiak and Ozuna's versatility. I assume that Ozzie automatically wants to add a lefty regardless of what he chooses to do. Edited January 12, 2006 by SSH2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Yeah at this stage, I really think unless a trade happens, Baj is going to make this team. Of course it depends on the number of pitchers carried etc., but there's definitely room for him, and I think it's fair to say most people here are rootin for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Baj's style of pitching and numbers seem to fit with what the sox need---a guy who goes after hitters, can get K's and not hurt himself by walking people. Esp. with Hermanson's health an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 06:44 AM) There trying to say the right thing, and also try and make it look good if that is the route they have to take. Im sure right now Kenny is out there looking for another arm, if not two, and if something doesnt work out, we are already hyping up our own system. I don't the sox are hyping up the young pitchers. If anything the sox don't make moves unless they have a solid backup plan. With the trades of Viz and Marte, if the sox didn't think they have guys who could at least duplicate their production in house, I don't think the sox would make the deals. Esp with the cost of bullpen help goin through the roof, in terms of FA salary and talent in trade. I think the sox knew they wouldn't be able to make a trade for bullpen help. that meant they'd be going into ST with the young guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 QUOTE(beck72 @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 05:37 AM) I don't the sox are hyping up the young pitchers. If anything the sox don't make moves unless they have a solid backup plan. With the trades of Viz and Marte, if the sox didn't think they have guys who could at least duplicate their production in house, I don't think the sox would make the deals. Esp with the cost of bullpen help goin through the roof, in terms of FA salary and talent in trade. I think the sox knew they wouldn't be able to make a trade for bullpen help. that meant they'd be going into ST with the young guys. I don't mind that at all. It's funny, every screams when we trade a prospect, but nobody wants to give the kids a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 pardon my ignorance, but is Felix Diaz still in the system? he pitched reasonably well out of the pen in, what was it, '03 or '04? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted January 12, 2006 Author Share Posted January 12, 2006 pardon my ignorance, but is Felix Diaz still in the system? he pitched reasonably well out of the pen in, what was it, '03 or '04? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nope... Latest News Dec. 21, 2005 - 1:39 am et White Sox non-tendered RHP Felix Diaz. Diaz would have been out of options at the beginning of next season, and he had no chance of winning a roster spot. Several teams will have interest in him on a minor league contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 The bullpen is the biggest question mark for the 2006 White Sox. Will Hermanson's back hold up the entire season? Will Cliff Politte be the 2005 version or the 2004 version of himself? Will Bobby Jenks elbow hold up? If he's in the bullpen, will BMac be able to adapt to that role? Will any of the journeymen left handers be able to be a decent MLB player? Will Munoz and/or Tracey be able to thrive in a big league bullpen? Cotts is the only one I don't worry about. KW has some work to do, I believe, with this bullpen. Trading Contreras doesn't necessarily solve the issues because BMac, one of smaller question marks then moves into the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 The bullpen is fine. Politte, Cotts, Jenks and McCarthy are a great 4 even if Hermanson is hurt. Those four would be in the majority of close/late games. The second lefty would occassionally have to face a left handed batter in the 6th or 7th inning, and a guy like Baj would just be a mop up guy in blowouts. I don't see any real problem. Guys like Politte and Cotts could regress, but that's true of any player in the majors. Can't concern yourself with that. I wouldn't count on anybody decent being added through FA unless a vet is willing to take a minor league deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted January 12, 2006 Author Share Posted January 12, 2006 The bullpen is fine. Politte, Cotts, Jenks and McCarthy are a great 4 even if Hermanson is hurt. Those four would be in the majority of close/late games. The second lefty would occassionally have to face a left handed batter in the 6th or 7th inning, and a guy like Baj would just be a mop up guy in blowouts. I don't see any real problem. Guys like Politte and Cotts could regress, but that's true of any player in the majors. Can't concern yourself with that. I wouldn't count on anybody decent being added through FA unless a vet is willing to take a minor league deal. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If Politte, Cotts, and Hermanson regress a bit our bullpen will be in trouble. And they are all good candidates to regress since they all pretty much had career years last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 02:17 PM) If Politte, Cotts, and Hermanson regress a bit our bullpen will be in trouble. And they are all good candidates to regress since they all pretty much had career years last season. of the 3 id be worred most about Politte.... Hermanson when in the bullpen actually performed really well for the giants the season b4... he would have the occasional blowup but dominant mostly. Cotts Im not 2 worried about at all because I think he really is that good..... Hell if it wasnt for Jenks id love Cotts to be our closer.... Politte always had the stuff but never put it all together b4... but again im confident he will be pretty good at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Jan 12, 2006 -> 08:17 AM) If Politte, Cotts, and Hermanson regress a bit our bullpen will be in trouble. And they are all good candidates to regress since they all pretty much had career years last season. And if Buerhle, Vazquez, Garcia, Garland and JC regress our starting pitching will be in trouble. If CC, Cliff Lee, Hafner, Martinez, etc. regress the Indians are in trouble. Anybody can regress at anytime for any reason and be in trouble. There is nothing KW can do to change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I've read on this board that Hermy has herniated discs in his back. Everything I've read or heard from the team about his injury seems kinda vague. Does anyone have a link which states something more specific than 'back issues' or 'back trouble'? I'm sure I've just missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedoctor Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 can anyone tell me anything about reynoso? i'm familiar with the other guys, but don't know much about his repertoire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 (edited) I'm hearing that due to Mackowiak's versatility that the Sox will only carry 21 players this year. Anyone else hear this ? Supposedly, he can start and close as well as drag the field and sell dip'ndots. Edited January 12, 2006 by WHITESOXRANDY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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