GreatScott82 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Yea, Howry is a dumb ass. Career years my ass. Nobody on our team hit over .300. And I love how he always refers to us being bad fans because 'we never attend the games' Damn is this guy jealous or what?!? Maddux #1? LOL, Zambrano is a #2, Wood is a # 10, and Prior would be there #1 if he can stay healthy. And who is there 5th starter? Jerome Williams? Hahaha yea he's a #1 pitcher. Hey Howry, there is a reason you were demoted to a setup man while you were here with us: You can never get the job done WHEN IT COUNTS!! I guess that is why you are now a sCrub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rventura23 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 someone is a little bitter I guess on the north side they just have a lower standard for #1 pitchers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I agree that Howry's an ass, blah blah blah, but come on guys, those of you saying Zambrano is just "ok" is total bulls***. I'd take him over Freddie, Garland, the usual Contreras, McCarthy just about any day. He's as dominant as a pitcher gets, he just needs to get his head right. Upper 90's, good breaking stuff, and he can go 8 innings, easy, how is he a #2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Here's the big picture, Bobby Howry. Last time the White Sox won the World Series: 2005 Last time the Cubs won the World Series: 1908. Talk about how good Cubs pitchers are all you want, Bobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosox41 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jan 15, 2006 -> 02:10 PM) This guy is the quickly becoming the biggest tool in baseball. http://www.post-trib.com/cgi-bin/pto-story...z1_spor_03.htmlMark Prior has spent more time on the DL than the entire Sox rotation, COMBINED. Bobby will get his chance to celebrate in October. That's when the Cubs get their award of an early vacation for winning the attendance championship. Sounds like someone really is jealous and misses the south side. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Bobby Howry had his chance to step forward with the Sox in 2000. He didn't. I don't remember him doing Dick Tracy during the playoffs. He's been hurt. Now he's had one good year as a setup guy. He's no Neal Cotts. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 QUOTE(Pauly8509CWS @ Jan 16, 2006 -> 12:26 AM) I agree that Howry's an ass, blah blah blah, but come on guys, those of you saying Zambrano is just "ok" is total bulls***. I'd take him over Freddie, Garland, the usual Contreras, McCarthy just about any day. He's as dominant as a pitcher gets, he just needs to get his head right. Upper 90's, good breaking stuff, and he can go 8 innings, easy, how is he a #2? He is a legit ACE. But Wood, Prior, Maddux and whoever else is not. Prior has had one good year, and has a ton of potential, but at this point he isnt an ACE. Wood is one of the biggest dissapointments ever, Madddux is a grandpa, and the rest of the crap is the rest of the crap. Howry is just campaigning, his old team had a better staff last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 He is a big sore loser. Wouldn't you talk trash about the Sox if they owned all your former teams? Red Sox lost in the ALDS 3-0. The Indians get spanked at the end of the season stopping them from making the playoffs, and the Cubs watch from the couch as the South Side wins a World Series championship. I guess his next stop will be Minnesota? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 QUOTE(Pauly8509CWS @ Jan 16, 2006 -> 01:26 AM) I agree that Howry's an ass, blah blah blah, but come on guys, those of you saying Zambrano is just "ok" is total bulls***. I'd take him over Freddie, Garland, the usual Contreras, McCarthy just about any day. He's as dominant as a pitcher gets, he just needs to get his head right. Upper 90's, good breaking stuff, and he can go 8 innings, easy, how is he a #2? I think the problem is that he is comparing staffs, and they dont compare at all. The Cubs rotation is a myth, something that is together once in a millenium. They cant touch the Sox with a ten foot pole when it comes to Howry's magic word consistency. Our top 4 pitchers went over 200 innings last year, Has Wood pitched 200 innings in the past 3 years combined? And Buehrle, Garland, Garcia, and Contreras have been known as workhorses their entire careers. Give them the ball, they will eat up innings. The Cubs have exactly one pitcher who can do that(Zambrano) and you dont know if he WILL do that because his head isnt on straight. It isnt about Zambrano being a number 1. Thats already known. Its about their pitching staff being better than ours. And they arent. Not even close. Howry can say all he wants, but I am going to love seeing the quotes out of his mouth when August rolls around and he is in there 3X as much as he is used to because Wood never recovered, and Jerome Williams sucks, and Maddux is only a 6 inning pitcher. Howry is going to realize that his arm will get tired from Dusty's overuse, and then he will start getting his ass handed to him. And then the media will jump in, and Howry will start crying to the papers. Book it, that b**** is gonna suck this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Who really cares what Bobby Howry has to say? It's not like he's a future HOF'er. We are World Champs folks! That's all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Opens closet door...finds old 2000 AL Central champs shirt Puts on 2005 AL Central Champs shirt Smiles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jan 16, 2006 -> 10:50 AM) I think the problem is that he is comparing staffs, and they dont compare at all. The Cubs rotation is a myth, something that is together once in a millenium. They cant touch the Sox with a ten foot pole when it comes to Howry's magic word consistency. Our top 4 pitchers went over 200 innings last year, Has Wood pitched 200 innings in the past 3 years combined? And Buehrle, Garland, Garcia, and Contreras have been known as workhorses their entire careers. Give them the ball, they will eat up innings. The Cubs have exactly one pitcher who can do that(Zambrano) and you dont know if he WILL do that because his head isnt on straight. It isnt about Zambrano being a number 1. Thats already known. Its about their pitching staff being better than ours. And they arent. Not even close. Howry can say all he wants, but I am going to love seeing the quotes out of his mouth when August rolls around and he is in there 3X as much as he is used to because Wood never recovered, and Jerome Williams sucks, and Maddux is only a 6 inning pitcher. Howry is going to realize that his arm will get tired from Dusty's overuse, and then he will start getting his ass handed to him. And then the media will jump in, and Howry will start crying to the papers. Book it, that b**** is gonna suck this year. To be honest, I think Jerome Williams will be a suprise. He was a projected #2/3 starter in the league prior to last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 To be honest, I think Jerome Williams will be a suprise. He was a projected #2/3 starter in the league prior to last year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Williams would probably put up better numbers than Maddux and Rusch. Hendry is so stupid that he wants Rusch as the 5th starter over Williams. But Williams will probably be in the rotation until Wood gets healthy, oh wait, I guess Williams will be in the rotation the entire season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Remember: "How's THIS For Starters?" That marketing scheme really worked out well for them. Now they're down to marketing the seasons. "Well, no matter how badly the Cubs play, it'll STILL be Summer....." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Remember: "How's THIS For Starters?" That marketing scheme really worked out well for them. Now they're down to marketing the seasons. "Well, no matter how badly the Cubs play, it'll STILL be Summer....." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought that the Cubs' official slogan every year is "WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Really, with Kerry Wood either on the DL or coming out of the bullpen, Brandon McCarthy would be their #3 starter. Meanwhile, he is #6 on our depth chart. I think that's pretty much all that needs to be said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilmot825 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I got a better slogan for the Cubs "The Sox got the Cheers, we got the Queers!" lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramer99 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Last years Numbers for three of the 4 "number 1's" G Maddux CHC 13 15 4.24 35 35 3 0 0 0 225.0 239 112 106 29 7 36 136 2. C Zambrano CHC 14 6 3.26 33 33 2 0 0 0 223.1 170 88 81 21 8 86 202 3. M Prior CHC 11 7 3.67 27 27 1 0 0 0 166.2 143 73 68 25 4 59 188 Kerry Woods Career Numbers: 1998 Chicago Cubs 13 6 3.40 26 26 1 1 0 --- 166.2 117 69 63 14 11 85 233 2000 Chicago Cubs 8 7 4.80 23 23 1 0 0 0 137.0 112 77 73 17 9 87 132 2001 Chicago Cubs 12 6 3.36 28 28 1 1 0 0 174.1 127 70 65 16 10 92 217 2002 Chicago Cubs 12 11 3.66 33 33 4 1 0 0 213.2 169 92 87 22 16 97 217 2003 Chicago Cubs 14 11 3.20 32 32 4 2 0 0 211.0 152 77 75 24 21 100 266 2004 Chicago Cubs 8 9 3.72 22 22 0 0 0 0 140.1 127 62 58 16 11 51 144 2005 Chicago Cubs 3 4 4.23 21 10 0 0 0 0 66.0 52 32 31 14 2 26 77 Point here is that a "number 1 starter" usually is slated to win 16+ games every single year....an accomplishment not done by Kerry Wood ever. Also, a number 1 starter would not have finished 2 games below .500 with an ERA ofver 4 ( in maddox's case) Now i have no case to say that Prior isnt a Number 1 WHEN HEALTHY...and Zambrano is capable as one as well....at best they have a number 1, a number 2, and three number 4's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly8509CWS Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 16, 2006 -> 09:14 AM) He is a legit ACE. But Wood, Prior, Maddux and whoever else is not. Prior has had one good year, and has a ton of potential, but at this point he isnt an ACE. Wood is one of the biggest dissapointments ever, Madddux is a grandpa, and the rest of the crap is the rest of the crap. Howry is just campaigning, his old team had a better staff last year. I know the other guys are not aces, but Big Z is as good as it gets IMO. That's all. I wasn't saying they have a better rotation by any means... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 QUOTE(Pauly8509CWS @ Jan 16, 2006 -> 10:02 PM) I know the other guys are not aces, but Big Z is as good as it gets IMO. That's all. I wasn't saying they have a better rotation by any means... I agree 100%. The only thing I do not like about Zambrano is how is just a crazy bastard on the mound. You want an intense pitcher on the mound, but my god, he is the anti-Jon Garland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Kerry Wood is a #1 starter... in simulated games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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