Sox Showed Interest in Prior

[Al Lopez's Ghost]

According to Monday's Southtown:

 

The Boston Globe reported Sunday that the White Sox were in on the Miguel Tejada talks with Baltimore. If the Cubs would have traded Mark Prior to the O's for the star shortstop, the Sox would have been interested in making a deal with Baltimore for Prior.

[whitesoxfan101]

http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/ds.../pro/162sd6.htm

 

That's the link to the story your talking about. Very interesting stuff.

[Steve Bartman's my idol]

Where would he play?

[Flash Tizzle]

I guarantee such an acquisition would cost McCarthy and Cotts. Baltimore wouldn't have any intentions of trading Prior, since they obviously need pitching, unless we were willing to provide a good package. I wouldn't want Prior for the price Baltimore would likely seek.

 

Although that would also be dependent upon the value Contreras would bring in a trade. Certaintly no one on McCarthy or Cotts level, but we'd need a quality BP arm/top pitching prospect.

 

You figure Prior wouldn't be pitching on the southside very long, anyways. Once he's a free agent, and commanding 13 million+ year, he's moving onto other markets. McCarthy alone is worth more to this team longterm than Prior.

[RME JICO]

Here is the Boston Globe article excerpt:

 

Would you believe that the White Sox were hovering on the fringes of the Tejada trade talks, not because of any interest in Tejada but in the hopes that if the Orioles peddled him to the Chicago Cubs for ace Mark Prior, they would have been willing to flip Prior to the crosstown White Sox in a package?

 

Why would the Sox make that trade? Seems like a lot of speculation. Could easily have been a misunderstanding since both the Sox and Cubs were involved with BAL.

 

 

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds...pitcher/?page=3

Edited January 16, 2006 by RME JICO

[Kyyle23]

If the Sox stole Prior from the O's, i think Cubdom(dumb-dedum-dumb) would have a mass suicide. That would be the ultimate stick in the eye if the Cubs had to face Prior in the crosstown classic.

[RME JICO]

If the Sox stole Prior from the O's, i think Cubdom(dumb-dedum-dumb) would have a mass suicide.    That would be the ultimate stick in the eye if the Cubs had to face Prior in the crosstown classic.

Probably not because he would be on the DL.

[Kyyle23]

Probably not because he would be on the DL.

 

I think Coop would be able to fix his mechanics better than Rothschild. Personally I think Rothschild has an under the table deal with Dr James Andrews to send as many messed up pitchers to him as possible. Its all theory though, just fun to think about.

[SSH2005]

I wonder if this rumor was before or after the Vazquez trade. Did KW still want Prior AFTER acquiring Vazquez?

[southsider2k5]

We were considering Prior for Contreras I guarentee you. We wanted Prior for 3 years instead of Contreras for one. This isn't a shock at all.

[SSH2005]

We were considering Prior for Contreras I guarentee you.  We wanted Prior for 3 years instead of Contreras for one.  This isn't a shock at all.

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Prior would have cost Contreras and quite a few prospects.

[nitetrain8601]

I wonder if this rumor was before or after the Vazquez trade.  Did KW still want Prior AFTER acquiring Vazquez?

 

Probably afterwards. Real question is after Garland was locked up or before? That would've been one hell of a rotation if it was after and we dealt Count(though I love the guy).

 

SP-Buehrle

SP-Prior

SP-Garland

SP-Garcia

SP-Vazquez

 

That is one siiiiiiiick rotation that's also still relatively young. All of them would be entering their primes or already are in it.

[nitetrain8601]

Prior would have cost Contreras and quite a few prospects.

 

Probably would've been Count, Sweeney, and Woodson.

[Balta1701]

Probably would've been Count, Sweeney, and Woodson.

As long as none of those prospects are named McCarthy.

Edited January 16, 2006 by Balta1701

[RME JICO]

We were considering Prior for Contreras I guarentee you.  We wanted Prior for 3 years instead of Contreras for one.  This isn't a shock at all.

I thought Prior signed a 5 yr deal thru 2006 and he would have 6 years of service time in 2007. So wouldn't that make him eligible for FA after 2007? Either way I guess the risk and reward factor would be worth a shot since he makes chump change at 3.6 Million.

[GoodAsGould]

I think Coop would be able to fix his mechanics better than Rothschild.  Personally I think Rothschild has an under the table deal with Dr James Andrews to send as many messed up pitchers to him as possible.  Its all theory though, just fun to think about.

 

There is nothing wrong with Prior's mechanics I think your thinking about our pal Kerry Wood.

[Flash Tizzle]

Probably would've been Count, Sweeney, and Woodson.

 

Orioles would laugh. Think about it--Orioles could have one of the premier pitchers in the game for three years in Prior; or a craptacular package of a late 30's Cuban with one year remaining on his contract, and two prospects far from can't miss.

 

It would have been McCarthy and Cotts, if I had to guess. Only makes sense for Baltimore.

[RockRaines]

who care what it would have cost? I would rather have prior than BMAC any day of the week.

[nitetrain8601]

who care what it would have cost?  I would rather have prior than BMAC any day of the week.

 

How dare you say that about the legend. The way some people talk about McCarthy reminds me of how people talked about Reed, if not worse.

[knightni]

It was also about becoming "alpha male" baseball franchise in Chicago.

 

Prior changes locations in the same city...

 

More fringe fans come over to the South Side to watch games.

[SpringfieldFan]

I can't say I am surprised at the news. I am sure KW leaves no stone unturned and looks at everyone who might be available (unless they are a Boras client ).

 

That said, considering what the O's wanted for Tejada, the price tag for Prior would have been BMac, the Birmingham Barons, Mrs. Podsednik, and cash just to make things fair.

 

SFF

Edited January 16, 2006 by SpringfieldFan

[Flash Tizzle]

who care what it would have cost?  I would rather have prior than BMAC any day of the week.

 

This is all speculation from us--since we have no idea what the Orioles would seek. But if you believe it would cost JUST McCarthy, well, then obviously you didn't notice the outrageous demands Orioles presented for Tejada. It wouldn't be just McCarthy. McCarthy and Cotts may not have been enough. What sense would it make for a pitching depleted team to deal Prior for just McCarthy?

 

Are you willing to forsake BMac and Cotts for three years of Prior? As I said earlier in the thread, I believe Prior is playing for free-agency; aka, big bucks. If the White Sox were positive they could obtain him beyond his Cubs' contract, and Contreras would bring us a decent package, then I'd approve it.

 

Sort of ridiculous to argue on three possible scenario's which stem from one point that never occured. Personally, Cotts/McCarthy or Prior would have been fine. I'm just attempting to guess a reasonable cost.

[Flash Tizzle]

How dare you say that about the legend. The way some people talk about McCarthy reminds me of how people talked about Reed, if not worse.

Considering Reed never saw a major league pitch while a White Sox it's not exactly the same comparison. It would be if he struggled, was sent down to AAA, corrected his swing, came back, and became one the team's (and leagues) best hitters down the final stretch.

Edited January 16, 2006 by Flash Tizzle

[ChWRoCk2]

Where would he play?

That is your response to everything bartman, and also shouldnt be in green because he would easily be starting, but the trade wont happen and i dont want an injury prone pitcher.

[RockRaines]

This is all speculation from us--since we have no idea what the Orioles would seek. But if you believe it would cost JUST McCarthy, well, then obviously you didn't notice the outrageous demands Orioles presented for Tejada. It wouldn't be just McCarthy. McCarthy and Cotts may not have been enough. What sense would it make for a pitching depleted team to deal Prior for just McCarthy?

 

Are you willing to forsake BMac and Cotts for three years of Prior? As I said earlier in the thread, I believe Prior is playing for free-agency; aka, big bucks. If the White Sox were positive they could obtain him beyond his Cubs' contract, and Contreras would bring us a decent package, then I'd approve it.

 

Sort of ridiculous to argue on three possible scenario's which stem from one point that never occured. Personally, Cotts/McCarthy or Prior would have been fine. I'm just attempting to guess a reasonable cost.

BMAC+Contreras+prospects yes I would do it. Cotts wouldnt even be in the deal.