Top Prospects at the TE position

[maggsmaggs]

  1. Vernon Davis Maryland 6-3 253 4.49

  2. Leonard Pope Georgia 6-7 250 n/a

  3. Marcedes Lewis U.C.L.A. 6-6 256 4.75

  4. Joe Klopfenstein Colorado 6-6 245 4.65

  5. Anthony Fasano Notre Dame 6-5 255 n/a

  6. Tim Day Oregon 6-4 265 4.75

  7. Dominique Byrd Southern Cal 6-3 260 4.85

  8. T.J. Williams North Carolina St. 6-3 253 4.80

  9. David Thomas Texas 6-3 245 4.80

10. Jeff King Virginia Tech 6-5 253 4.85

11. Tony Scheffler Western Michigan 6-6 260 4.71

12. Owen Daniels Wisconsin 6-3 247 n/a

13. Quinn Sypniewski Colorado 6-7 265 n/a

14. Cooper Wallace Auburn 6-4 263 4.80

15. Charles Davis Purdue 6-6 260 4.85

16. Troy Bienemann Washington St. 6-4 258 4.80

17. Anthony Mix Auburn 6-5 252 4.55

18. Tim Massaquoi Michigan 6-4 252 4.70

19. Darcy Johnson Central Florida 6-5 255 n/a

20. Jason Pociask Wisconsin 6-3 258 n/a

21. Daniel Fells Cal-Davis 6-4 252 n/a

22. Jeff Mullins Marshall 6-3 255 n/a

23. Boone Stutz Texas A&M 6-6 251 n/a

24. Gavin Tarquinio Georgia Tech 6-3 250 n/a

25. Ryan Hamby Ohio St. 6-5 250 n/a

26. Erik Gill Pittsburgh 6-5 275 n/a

 

I want Davis, but he won't be available, so I want Lewis. Who do you guys like Lewis or Pope, or even Fasano/Byrd?

Edited January 17, 2006 by maggsmaggs

[daa84]

I want Davis, but he won't be available, so I want Lewis.  Who do you guys like Lewis or Pope, or even Fasano/Byrd?

lewis > pope > fasano ...im not a big fasano fan....id look for daniels to move up that board too...ill bet hes got near the fastest 40 time on that list

[witesoxfan]

Davis is solid as hell...I just hope the Bills don't do something stupid and draft him.

 

He'd be a good player...but if Haloti Ngata isn't a Bill after draft day, I'm going to be sorely disappointed.

[Palehosefan]

1. Vernon Davis Maryland 6-3 253 4.49 freak, but not the brightest guy

2. Leonard Pope Georgia 6-7 250 n/a giant, my favorite, hard to miss for QB

3. Marcedes Lewis U.C.L.A. 6-6 256 4.75 faster than 4.75, solid starter

4. Joe Klopfenstein Colorado 6-6 245 4.65

5. Anthony Fasano Notre Dame 6-5 255 n/a

6. Tim Day Oregon 6-4 265 4.75 overrated

7. Dominique Byrd Southern Cal 6-3 260 4.85 faster than 4.85, underrated

8. T.J. Williams North Carolina St. 6-3 253 4.80 gotta be in top 5, starter

9. David Thomas Texas 6-3 245 4.80

10. Jeff King Virginia Tech 6-5 253 4.85

11. Tony Scheffler Western Michigan 6-6 260 4.71

12. Owen Daniels Wisconsin 6-3 247 n/a I liken him to Dallas Clark

13. Quinn Sypniewski Colorado 6-7 265 n/a

14. Cooper Wallace Auburn 6-4 263 4.80

15. Charles Davis Purdue 6-6 260 4.85

16. Troy Bienemann Washington St. 6-4 258 4.80

17. Anthony Mix Auburn 6-5 252 4.55

18. Tim Massaquoi Michigan 6-4 252 4.70

19. Darcy Johnson Central Florida 6-5 255 n/a

20. Jason Pociask Wisconsin 6-3 258 n/a

21. Daniel Fells Cal-Davis 6-4 252 n/a

22. Jeff Mullins Marshall 6-3 255 n/a

23. Boone Stutz Texas A&M 6-6 251 n/a

24. Gavin Tarquinio Georgia Tech 6-3 250 n/a

25. Ryan Hamby Ohio St. 6-5 250 n/a

26. Erik Gill Pittsburgh 6-5 275 n/a

[Confederate_48]

I really hope Pope makes it down to our pick in the draft. Hes so big I dont even think Orton could miss him.

[AddisonStSox]

I want Davis, but he won't be available, so I want Lewis.  Who do you guys like Lewis or Pope, or even Fasano/Byrd?

 

Davis is nothing but a pipe dream at this point. There ain't a snowball's chance in hell he falls to the Bears. If the Rams find a way to grab him, they've just added a very deadly component to that already high-flying offense.

 

Although it's a bit early to tell, I think you'll see Pope drafted ahead of Lewis. I really think Lewis hurt his stock in the Sun Bowl and is going to need a nice combine to work that back up again.

 

Pope looks to be my #1 sweetheart. I just love what he brings to the game. He would be an absolutely perfect fit for the Bears and I would say it'd be one of the finer first-round draft selections of the organization in the recent past. He's just a perfect fit.

 

The days of the dominating TEs are not a thing of the past. I think they are still very much alive. Pope would add a very special component to that Bearss anemic offense that would merit intense preparation for opposing defensive coordinators.

[thedoctor]

even though just about every mock has them taking him, i just don't like lewis for the bears. i'd much rather take a guy like byrd, klopfenstein or fasano later. we can get better value there than a guy who couldn't manage a catch against a bad northwestern defense.

[Chisoxfn]

Davis is nothing but a pipe dream at this point.  There ain't a snowball's chance in hell he falls to the Bears.  If the Rams find a way to grab him, they've just added a very deadly component to that already high-flying offense.

 

Although it's a bit early to tell, I think you'll see Pope drafted ahead of Lewis.  I really think Lewis hurt his stock in the Sun Bowl and is going to need a nice combine to work that back up again.

 

Pope looks to be my #1 sweetheart.  I just love what he brings to the game.  He would be an absolutely perfect fit for the Bears and I would say it'd be one of the finer first-round draft selections of the organization in the recent past.  He's just a perfect fit.

 

The days of the dominating TEs are not a thing of the past.  I think they are still very much alive.  Pope would add a very special component to that Bearss anemic offense that would merit intense preparation for opposing defensive coordinators.

I've seen Lewis really slipping lately. In fact, he could be there in the middle of the 2nd round when the Bears pick. A few people have rated Fasano over him and Fasano is a 1st day pick, but I don't see him going earlier than middle of the 2nd round as well. I think you got to go best available if you are the Bears (aside from MLB and obviously RB). So if there is a really good athlete available when the Bears pick I think you grab him or take advantage of this guy being on the board and move down a few slots for some extra draft spots.

 

Thats mainly because I think you can get a Fasano or Lewis with our 2nd round pick and I don't think Pope is a full round better than those two. However, Davis is, but he's a freakish athlete whose gonna go top 15.

[Steve9347]

I want Davis, but he won't be available, so I want Lewis.  Who do you guys like Lewis or Pope, or even Fasano/Byrd?

 

According to ESPN's mockdraft Marcedes is our guy.

[Kalapse]

I really think we'd take Pope over Lewis in the 1st round simply because Pope is the superior blocker and with our running attack a great run blocking TE would be extremely valuable to this team.

[AddisonStSox]

I've seen Lewis really slipping lately.  In fact, he could be there in the middle of the 2nd round when the Bears pick.  A few people have rated Fasano over him and Fasano is a 1st day pick, but I don't see him going earlier than middle of the 2nd round as well.  I think you got to go best available if you are the Bears (aside from MLB and obviously RB).  So if there is a really good athlete available when the Bears pick I think you grab him or take advantage of this guy being on the board and move down a few slots for some extra draft spots. 

 

Thats mainly because I think you can get a Fasano or Lewis with our 2nd round pick and I don't think Pope is a full round better than those two.  However, Davis is, but he's a freakish athlete whose gonna go top 15.

 

You dog, you.

 

Stole my thunder.

 

That's the exact stance I think I'm going to adopt in regards to the Bears first rounder. I think if they aren't blown away with Pope come draft day they seriously need to consider going best player available. Obviously, they should stay away from positions of blatant strength of depth, but, I have news for you, the Bears are not a deep team. After having watched that playoff game, I could point out at least five or more positions on both sides of the ball needing significant upgrades on the depth chart.

 

But, I really disagree that Fasano should be ranked higher than Lewis. Until recently, Lewis was the consensus top tight end. That piss poor Sun Bowl appearence really, really hurt his stock; but, I think after workouts you'll see him on the rise. I would be fine with the Bears finding a best player available in the first round, looking to add a Fasano, Byrd--someone I'd take over Fasano...just seems to be the type of player the Bears need at that position--or Klopfenstein in the early to mid rounds.

[WHarris1]

Please fall to the Bears Pope, please

[DukeNukeEm]

Pope is freakish...

 

Ask Jason Allen about what its like to tackle him... or you could ask whats left of Jason Allen's hip.

[Wedge]

Pope's a freak and I'd love to have that guy. Otherwise, I'd like for them to pick up a defensive back with the top pick and take the pick of Lewis or Fasano in the 2nd round.

[Dam8610]

I've been saying for months the Bears should draft Leonard Pope. He's the best overall TE in the draft IMO.

[AddisonStSox]

I've been saying for months the Bears should draft Leonard Pope. He's the best overall TE in the draft IMO.

 

I'm as big a Lenoard Pope fan as the next guy, but, Vernon Davis is simply the best pro prospect at his position. He's as close to a consensus #1 as there is.

 

A case can be made for Pope, but, if he's the second TE to go, he'll have nothing to hang his head about.

 

He would be devestating in a Bears uniform.

[Dam8610]

I'm as big a Lenoard Pope fan as the next guy, but, Vernon Davis is simply the best pro prospect at his position.  He's as close to a consensus #1 as there is.

 

A case can be made for Pope, but, if he's the second TE to go, he'll have nothing to hang his head about.

 

He would be devestating in a Bears uniform.

 

I agree with all of the above. I just don't like Vernon Davis as a TE. He runs close to a 4.4, and I'm pretty sure his blocking is crap (for a TE), which is why I think he would make a really good WR.

Edited January 26, 2006 by Dam8610

[DukeNukeEm]

Vernon Davis is NOT a WR. He's a TE, and the top one in this class.

 

Pope would great for the Bears, I dont know if its really possible to overthrow him...

[Dam8610]

Vernon Davis is NOT a WR.  He's a TE, and the top one in this class.

 

Pope would great for the Bears, I dont know if its really possible to overthrow him...

 

Why is he NOT a WR? Bad route running? He has the speed and hands for it. I think any team that picks Davis as a TE is going to have to have another TE for blocking or run a lot of 2 TE sets and run to the opposite side of the field.

[DukeNukeEm]

B/c with taht speed he creates one of the biggest mismatches you can make when playing an LB.

[Dam8610]

B/c with taht speed he creates one of the biggest mismatches you can make when playing an LB.

 

And with that size, he'd be a CB's worst nightmare once he caught the ball (which he can do very well), plus he wouldn't have to block.

[DukeNukeEm]

Why, when Vernon Davis had been as good as you could be as a TE in college, would you arbitrarily move him to WR because he is 6'6 (unoff.)?

 

Leonard Pope is like 6'9 285, why dont you want him at WR? He'd be a CBs worst nightmare with that size according to you.

 

Reason? BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER AT TE.

 

Why am I even arguing this, its so retarded I cant find something of substance to respond w/ b/c its so f***ing random and out-there.

Edited January 27, 2006 by DukeNukeEm

[Dam8610]

Why, when Vernon Davis had been as good as you could be as a TE in college, would you arbitrarily move him to WR because he is 6'6 (unoff.)?

 

Leonard Pope is like 6'9 285, why dont you want him at WR?  He'd be a CBs worst nightmare with that size according to you.

 

Reason?  BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER AT TE.

 

Why am I even arguing this, its so retarded I cant find something of substance to respond w/ b/c its so f***ing random and out-there.

 

It's not random. It's actually pretty well thought out. Davis is not a good blocker, but he has great hands, a big body for a WR (compared to average size at TE), can go over the middle to get a ball, and has 4.4 speed. Pope on the other hand can block well, and doesn't have WR speed (low 4.5-high 4.7 range), not to mention he's big even for a TE. That's the difference. Davis will be a great receiving TE, but his blocking is poor at best, making him a liability on run plays. Pope will not be as good of a receiving TE as Davis, but his blocking will be far superior, making him more of an every down player. If Davis is going to be a liability on run plays, he may as well move to WR where he won't have to block and can still use his receiving skills.

[DukeNukeEm]

No. Its not f***ing well thought out at all, in fact its so f***ing retarded I'm not even going to talk about it anymore.

 

Guess what? Vernon Davis is a f***ing TE, not a WR. Would you take Vince Young and move him to RB because he comes off to you as a better runner than thower?

 

No. You wouldnt. Now please, shut the flying f*** up.

[GoodAsGould]

No.  Its not f***ing well thought out at all, in fact its so f***ing retarded I'm not even going to talk about it anymore.

 

Guess what?  Vernon Davis is a f***ing TE, not a WR.  Would you take Vince Young and move him to RB because he comes off to you as a better runner than thower?

 

No.  You wouldnt.  Now please, shut the flying f*** up.

 

you really need to calm down.... I dont think Vernon Davis should be a WR at all either but the way your responding is really childish and is just going to result in this thread being locked or you being banned....