Coordinated?

[kapkomet]

Let's see. Idiot Mayor talks about God punishing us for Iraq, etc. and NO needs to be rebuilt 'chocolates'.

 

Algore screams about our freedoms being taken away.

 

Hillary calls the GOP House a "Plantation"...

 

all yesterday...

 

Coincidence? I think not.

[NorthSideSox72]

Let's see.  Idiot Mayor talks about God punishing us for Iraq, etc. and NO needs to be rebuilt 'chocolates'.

 

Algore screams about our freedoms being taken away.

 

Hillary calls the GOP House a "Plantation"...

 

all yesterday...

 

Coincidence?  I think not.

 

I might agree on Gore and Clinton.

 

But me thinks Mr. Nagin is kind of on his own planet.

 

Also, remember, yesterday was MLK Day, so the issues of freedoms and civil rights were naturally going to be at the forefront.

[kapkomet]

I might agree on Gore and Clinton.

 

But me thinks Mr. Nagin is kind of on his own planet.

 

Also, remember, yesterday was MLK Day, so the issues of freedoms and civil rights were naturally going to be at the forefront.

You're probably right about Nagin. That guy is an IDIOT.

[Controlled Chaos]

RayNa is a f***ing nut job.

[Kyyle23]

Nagin talking about his "Chocolate" New Orleans

Mayor Ray Nagin on Monday called for the rebuilding of a "chocolate New Orleans" that maintains the city's black majority, saying, "You can't have New Orleans no other way."

 

"I don't care what people are saying Uptown or wherever they are. This city will be chocolate at the end of the day," Nagin said in a Martin Luther King Jr. Day speech. "This city will be a majority African-American city. It's the way God wants it to be."

 

Yeah, I think Hilary and Al might have been on the same page. But Ray is definitely on his own wavelength this time.

[Controlled Chaos]

Nagin talking about his "Chocolate" New Orleans

Yeah, I think Hilary and Al might have been on the same page.  But Ray is definitely on his own wavelength this time.

Mayor Nagin and the Chocolate factory. Nice. Apparently you can be racist on MLK day.

[southsider2k5]

Mayor Nagin and the Chocolate factory.  Nice.  Apparently you can be racist on MLK day.

 

Good point. If Chesterton Indiana had been wiped off of the map by a tornado, and the mayor got up after words and said I want to restore my "Vanilla City", you can bet your sweet ass that there would be an uproar. Instead in this case, people are just rolling their eyes. Where is the uproar for diversity here?

 

I don't understand how this is not racist?

[Rex Kickass]

The Al Gore speech had been hyped weeks in advance. And his speech was damn good. At least it read well.

 

But co-ordinated? I doubt it. Al Gore isn't a part of the mainstream Dem party leadership anymore, and if he joins back into the fray, its to run for the oval office again in 2008 against Hillary, if she runs.

 

And if so, who cares?

[Controlled Chaos]

A curious form of optimism

Jan 18, 2006

by David Limbaugh ( bio | archive | contact )

 

Unlike our president, who spent Martin Luther King Day paying respectful tribute to MLK and Abraham Lincoln, Democratic Party notables, Hillary Clinton and Albert Gore, used the holiday as another opportunity to character-assassinate President George W. Bush.

 

Just when we were beginning to think Hillary Clinton had found her voice -- albeit a decidedly phony one -- as a mature, seasoned politician poised for a presidential run, she reverts to those cacophonic utterances that find little resonance beyond her embittered but indispensable base.

 

If one could momentarily suspend his powers of discernment, he could almost sympathize with a woman saddled with the dilemma of trying to sound reasonable without permanently alienating that cabal of reliably unreasonable malcontents. But alas, Hillary obviously has no real beef with her base on principle, and from time to time, it insists she demonstrate her loyalty by paying homage to its cynicism and hysteria.

 

 

During a speech at the Canaan Baptist Church of Christ in Harlem, the fair-skinned wife of the first black president wasted no time proving her bona fides by exhibiting her penchant for negative hyperbole in critiquing the president and Congress.

 

She said, "We have a culture of corruption, we have cronyism, we have incompetence. I predict to you that this administration will go down in history as one of the worst that has ever governed our country."

 

And, never passing up a chance for political exploitation, Hillary offered up some racially charged red meat to the Hurricane Katrina evacuees in attendance. She apologized "on behalf of a government that left you behind, that turned its back on you" -- a government, I suppose, she denies being a part of when it suits her immediate interests.

 

But as regrettable as Hillary's remarks were, they were anemic compared to the rantings of that poster boy for instability Albert Gore, who, you may recall with horror, came within one state's electoral vote of being president.

 

Gore, remembered for declaring that "there is no controlling legal authority" when caught with his hands directly in the middle of a fundraising scandal, was quick to call for an independent investigation into "President Bush's spying program," about which there truly may be no clearly controlling authority.

 

Of course, Gore doesn't need to wait for an independent investigation. He has already concluded that "the president of the United States has been breaking the law repeatedly and insistently." Despite the incontrovertible fact that Bush briefed congressmen on his surveillance program, Gore shamelessly said he "secretly assumed that power anyway, as if congressional authorization was a useless bother."

 

Further displaying his unique gift for chutzpah, Gore yelled, "A president who breaks the law is a threat to the very structure of our government." He must be making exceptions for serial perjury, suborning perjury, obstruction of justice and, yes, criminal violations of campaign finance laws. Indeed, this proud vice president under the president who made a sport of mocking the rule of law said, "It is imperative that respect for the law be restored."

 

Then, picking up on the Democrats' latest mantra demonizing President Bush as a megalomaniacal dictator, Gore characterized Bush's attempts to intercept Al Qaeda phone calls for the purpose of protecting America's security as a "constitutional power-grab by the president."

 

Continuing with this theme, Gore said, preposterously, "The president's judicial appointments are clearly designed to ensure that the courts will not serve as an effective check on executive power." I just have to wonder if Gore really thinks enough people are impressionable enough to believe that President Bush, who will leave office in three years, is appointing judges to augment his power rather than to restore integrity to the Constitution.

 

And, though separate bipartisan commissions concluded the Bush administration did not pressure the CIA or other intelligence agencies to exaggerate their reports of Iraqi WMD, Gore brazenly accused the administration of silencing dissent, censoring inconsistent information and demanding conformity from all executive-branch employees. He said, "CIA analysts who strongly disagreed with the White House assertion that Osama bin Laden was linked to Saddam Hussein found themselves under pressure at work and became fearful of losing promotions and salary increases."

 

After accusing President Bush of virtual tyranny and depicting America as on the brink of ruin, Gore closed by protesting, "I am filled with optimism that America is on the eve of a golden age … "

 

Old Albert could have fooled me. He sounds more like George Bernard Shaw's description of a pessimist -- one who "thinks everybody is as nasty as himself, and hates them for it."

 

Either way, I just hope Albert and Hillary continue to spread their contagious optimism between now and November 2008.

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

^^^^^^

 

 

Gore and Hillary = pwn3d!!!!!

 

 

 

Every time those 2 open their mouths a bunch of hypocritical leftist drivel spews out.

 

 

:puke

[FlaSoxxJim]

^^^^^^ 

Gore and Hillary = pwn3d!!!!!

Every time those 2 open their mouths a bunch of hypocritical leftist drivel spews out.

:puke

 

I'm not altogether down with what Sen. Clinton said, but both of Gore's speeches (the first one this thread referred to and especially his reply to the non-factual and impotent White House pushback) were very good.

[NorthSideSox72]

I'm not altogether down with what Sen. Clinton said, but both of Gore's speeches (the first one this thread referred to and especially his reply to the non-factual and impotent White House pushback) were very good.

 

Agreed.

 

And I am getting tired of the hypocrisy of prople saying labeling everything any democrat says as "Leftist *insert insulting noun here*". It's such an immature, laughable response, lumping all people who disagree with the GOP into the "extremist" camp. And then they b**** and moan when a Democrat says that the extremists in the GOP are dragging the party right, which is somehow taken to be an affront to all Chirstians.

 

Can we have some maturity and intelligent discussions in here, without the insults and marginalization?

[YASNY]

Agreed.

 

And I am getting tired of the hypocrisy of prople saying labeling everything any democrat says as "Leftist *insert insulting noun here*".  It's such an immature, laughable response, lumping all people who disagree with the GOP into the "extremist" camp.  And then they b**** and moan when a Democrat says that the extremists in the GOP are dragging the party right, which is somehow taken to be an affront to all Chirstians.

 

Can we have some maturity and intelligent discussions in here, without the insults and marginalization?

 

You leftist *searching for appropriate insulting noun*!

[NorthSideSox72]

You leftist *searching for appropriate insulting noun*!

 

Centrist *insert noun* is probably more accurate. I just happen to be taking up the "leftist" cause on this one.

[YASNY]

 

Centrist *insert noun* is probably more accurate.  I just happen to be taking up the "leftist" cause on this one.

 

Serious question for you. I perceive myself as a moderate that leans strongly to the conservative side of the fence. How would you catagorize yourself?

[Texsox]

Coordinated?

 

With so many personal agendas out there, I really doubt any of this is coordinated beyond the usual party talking points coming out of the RNC and DNC. Just like the White House will send out the flackies to make the rounds of the talk shows, news shows, and columnists, I'm certain there are some points that people will agree on and mention.

[YASNY]

Coordinated?

 

With so many personal agendas out there, I really doubt any of this is coordinated beyond the usual party talking points coming out of the RNC and DNC. Just like the White House will send out the flackies to make the rounds of the talk shows, news shows, and columnists, I'm certain there are some points that people will agree on and mention.

 

So, what you are saying that the Democratic Party (should I be using caps here?) is uncoordinated?

[Texsox]

So, what you are saying that the Democratic Party (should I be using caps here?)  is uncoordinated?

 

I think the members are, same with the GOP. What is coordinated is the platform and some of the talking points.

And Republicans can't dance

[YASNY]

I think the members are, same with the GOP. What is coordinated is the platform and some of the talking points.

And Republicans can't dance

 

They're too white!

[Controlled Chaos]

I think the members are, same with the GOP. What is coordinated is the platform and some of the talking points.

And Republicans can't dance

And democrats can't make love

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/News/story?id=180291

[YASNY]

Screw that, so to speak. I am staying firmly planted on the right.

[NorthSideSox72]

Serious question for you.  I perceive myself as a moderate that leans strongly to the conservative side of the fence. How would you catagorize yourself?

 

Hm.

 

I took a questionaire online a year or so ago, asking where I stood on 50 current (at the time) important political issues. I fell almost exactly in the middle. But my individual views were all over the place.

 

So far today, I have posted with the generally-GOP folks on the Walmart thing, and with the generally-Dem folks on the domestic surveillance thing.

 

I'm right-of-center on most anything fiscal, as well as affirmative action, rights granted under amedments 2, 5 and 10, most business policy, most matters of crime and punishment, defense generally (not inluding the Iraq debacle), and balancing the budget (I would favor an amendment).

 

I'm left-of-center on the environment (way left), on rights granted under amendments 1 and 4, on gay marriage and other social agendas, the Iraq mistake (though I do NOT advocate leaving Iraq right now), and on my current thoughts about the Bush administration's performance (i.e. warrantless searches, Iraq, trying to insert church into state, etc.).

 

I have ideas not on either party's radar when it comes to mid-east policy, health care, the judicial system and education.

 

Does that sampling help?

[Reddy]

A curious form of optimism

Jan 18, 2006

by David Limbaugh ( bio | archive | contact )

 

Unlike our president, who spent Martin Luther King Day paying respectful tribute to MLK and Abraham Lincoln, Democratic Party notables, Hillary Clinton and Albert Gore, used the holiday as another opportunity to character-assassinate President George W. Bush.

 

Just when we were beginning to think Hillary Clinton had found her voice -- albeit a decidedly phony one -- as a mature, seasoned politician poised for a presidential run, she reverts to those cacophonic utterances that find little resonance beyond her embittered but indispensable base.

 

If one could momentarily suspend his powers of discernment, he could almost sympathize with a woman saddled with the dilemma of trying to sound reasonable without permanently alienating that cabal of reliably unreasonable malcontents. But alas, Hillary obviously has no real beef with her base on principle, and from time to time, it insists she demonstrate her loyalty by paying homage to its cynicism and hysteria.

During a speech at the Canaan Baptist Church of Christ in Harlem, the fair-skinned wife of the first black president wasted no time proving her bona fides by exhibiting her penchant for negative hyperbole in critiquing the president and Congress.

 

She said, "We have a culture of corruption, we have cronyism, we have incompetence. I predict to you that this administration will go down in history as one of the worst that has ever governed our country."

 

And, never passing up a chance for political exploitation, Hillary offered up some racially charged red meat to the Hurricane Katrina evacuees in attendance. She apologized "on behalf of a government that left you behind, that turned its back on you" -- a government, I suppose, she denies being a part of when it suits her immediate interests.

 

But as regrettable as Hillary's remarks were, they were anemic compared to the rantings of that poster boy for instability Albert Gore, who, you may recall with horror, came within one state's electoral vote of being president.

 

Gore, remembered for declaring that "there is no controlling legal authority" when caught with his hands directly in the middle of a fundraising scandal, was quick to call for an independent investigation into "President Bush's spying program," about which there truly may be no clearly controlling authority.

 

Of course, Gore doesn't need to wait for an independent investigation. He has already concluded that "the president of the United States has been breaking the law repeatedly and insistently." Despite the incontrovertible fact that Bush briefed congressmen on his surveillance program, Gore shamelessly said he "secretly assumed that power anyway, as if congressional authorization was a useless bother."

 

Further displaying his unique gift for chutzpah, Gore yelled, "A president who breaks the law is a threat to the very structure of our government." He must be making exceptions for serial perjury, suborning perjury, obstruction of justice and, yes, criminal violations of campaign finance laws. Indeed, this proud vice president under the president who made a sport of mocking the rule of law said, "It is imperative that respect for the law be restored."

 

Then, picking up on the Democrats' latest mantra demonizing President Bush as a megalomaniacal dictator, Gore characterized Bush's attempts to intercept Al Qaeda phone calls for the purpose of protecting America's security as a "constitutional power-grab by the president."

 

Continuing with this theme, Gore said, preposterously, "The president's judicial appointments are clearly designed to ensure that the courts will not serve as an effective check on executive power." I just have to wonder if Gore really thinks enough people are impressionable enough to believe that President Bush, who will leave office in three years, is appointing judges to augment his power rather than to restore integrity to the Constitution.

 

And, though separate bipartisan commissions concluded the Bush administration did not pressure the CIA or other intelligence agencies to exaggerate their reports of Iraqi WMD, Gore brazenly accused the administration of silencing dissent, censoring inconsistent information and demanding conformity from all executive-branch employees. He said, "CIA analysts who strongly disagreed with the White House assertion that Osama bin Laden was linked to Saddam Hussein found themselves under pressure at work and became fearful of losing promotions and salary increases."

 

After accusing President Bush of virtual tyranny and depicting America as on the brink of ruin, Gore closed by protesting, "I am filled with optimism that America is on the eve of a golden age … "

 

Old Albert could have fooled me. He sounds more like George Bernard Shaw's description of a pessimist -- one who "thinks everybody is as nasty as himself, and hates them for it."

 

Either way, I just hope Albert and Hillary continue to spread their contagious optimism between now and November 2008.

 

 

do you not see this for what it is? this passage is exactly the kind of propaganda you guys get pissed about. The only difference is when it's a democrat saying it it's "bulls*** and rediculous etc etc etc"

 

to think that an article like this has ANY more validity than the comments in either Clinton or Gore's speeches is just plain ignorant

[Rex Kickass]

It's also written by Rush Limbaugh's brother.